3D Films

The Mad Hatter · 08-03-2011 01:04AM

ztoical wrote: »

Have seen several people saying this and have to say after seeing it in 3D in the cinema [and none 3D] it wouldn't be top of my list if I got a 3d tv....the 3D effect is only present in the digital world not the real world so you've got the first 15/20 mins of nothing and then frankly really limited 3D effects through. Tron Legacy is the only film after Avatar that I bother to go see both versions to see the difference and even as someone whose not overly impressed by 3D I was amazed at how crap the 3D effort was to the point were I don't know why they bothered.

jaykhunter · 08-03-2011 01:14AM

jaysus lads samapple was just happy with his purchase and wanted to say something about it, no need to sh!t all over it!

800 quid for a 3DTV and 20 quid for 3D blurays are pretty reasonable IMO, it's an extremely niche market and i expected them to be more.

What Blurays did ya get? Up and Toy Story were great in 3D in the cine....

What's the footie like in 3D?

barrackali · 08-03-2011 01:18AM

Man I have to say 3DTV's are crap, I've watched pretty much all that is available on 3D(and thats not much)...but the experience has been dire.

Until they develop the technology without glasses..forget this gimmick.

08-03-2011 01:26AM

ztoical wrote: »

Tron Legacy is the only film after Avatar that I bother to go see both versions to see the difference and even as someone whose not overly impressed by 3D I was amazed at how crap the 3D effort was to the point were I don't know why they bothered.

I haven't seen Tron Legacy yet, I was hoping it would be better than Avatar 3D Blu-Ray as I felt a bit let down with the 3D effect in it to be honest.

08-03-2011 01:38AM

hellboy99 wrote: »

I haven't seen Tron Legacy yet, I was hoping it would be better than Avatar 3D Blu-Ray as I felt a bit let down with the 3D effect in it to be honest.

Are you referring to the lack of things being thrown at the audience?

Avatar is by far the best use of 3D yet, it used the technology in a manner which immersed you in the world rather than constantly diverting your attention with pointless scenes of things being thrown our of the screen. The opening scene where they come out of cryo sleep is absolutely astounding to watch.

08-03-2011 01:45AM

barrackali wrote: »

Man I have to say 3DTV's are crap, I've watched pretty much all that is available on 3D(and thats not much)...but the experience has been dire.

Until they develop the technology without glasses..forget this gimmick.

I have to disagree with you, I have a 3DTV. For PC / console gaming I think it's brilliant, depending on the of course. The same said for 3D films, for me so far the IMAX 3D titles are excellent, best I have seen so far is IMAX Space Station 3D.

For me I was and I wasn't going to get a 3DTV, I was sceptical, I thought it was just another gimmick, which to a great extent it is but in my case I pleasantly surprised. I was looking for a new TV / PC monitor and €850 for a 40" full HD TV that is also 3D capable and comes with a pair of 3D glasses I couldn't knock the price.

3DTV's will always be hit and miss when it comes to 3D but this not the TV's fault, if you watch something that has been filmed properly in 3D and the money has been well spent on it then you will be surprised at how good it is.

johnny_ultimate · 08-03-2011 01:47AM

I think the "some scenes are not in 3D by design" warning at the start of Tron was a warning sign :pac: But even in the 'Grid' scenes it just seemed wanting. Was one of the last straws for me in regards to 3D in the cinema - unless I've read that 3D genuinely benefits the film (as was the case with Avatar and apparently Cave of Forgotten Dreams and then nothing else) I think I'll be sticking with 2D in future. A brighter, clearer image is more preferable than shoehorned 3D IMO!

Oh, everyone should give the 3DS a whirl though. The depth to the image is wonderful. Only tech that has my potentially excited about an extra realm, although word is it becomes rather headache inducing after prolonged play.

08-03-2011 01:48AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you referring to the lack of things being thrown at the audience?

Avatar is by far the best use of 3D yet, it used the technology in a manner which immersed you in the world rather than constantly diverting your attention with pointless scenes of things being thrown our of the screen. The opening scene where they come out of cryo sleep is absolutely astounding to watch.

Agree with you on all points, what done me was all the hype to be honest, it is good and a lot better than most other 3D films I've seen.

CrinkElite · 08-03-2011 01:56AM

b1tch b1tch b1tch, we'll all be lappin up 3d media in 3-5 years. the only reason why people are resisting it is because they invested in high quality 2d screens or just don't have the money to buy a 3d screen in the first place.

More power to ya OP. 800 rags for a 600hrz tv!

Best of both worlds.

Sad Professor · 08-03-2011 02:21AM

I think eyesight is a big issue and the main reason why 3D isn't going to be around very long. A lot of people don't have perfect vision in both eyes. My left eye is quite weak and I'm convinced that I'm not getting the full 3D effect as a result. I could definitely see the 3D effects in Avatar, but found them far from impressive. However, I saw absolutely no 3D in Tron: Legacy, nothing whatsoever. I don't know if that was just the film or me or what.

L'prof · 08-03-2011 07:31AM

CrinkElite wrote: »

b1tch b1tch b1tch, we'll all be lappin up 3d media in 3-5 years. the only reason why people are resisting it is because they invested in high quality 2d screens or just don't have the money to buy a 3d screen in the first place.

More power to ya OP. 800 rags for a 600hrz tv!

Best of both worlds.

Ridiculous statement to be honest! If I was as impressed with 3D as I was with HD then I'd make the jump, plain and simple. At the moment it's not worth it, but I do admit that with the right technology then one day it might be.

ztoical · 08-03-2011 08:55AM

CrinkElite wrote: »

b1tch b1tch b1tch, we'll all be lappin up 3d media in 3-5 years. the only reason why people are resisting it is because they invested in high quality 2d screens or just don't have the money to buy a 3d screen in the first place.

Nope haven't invested much of anything in my tv set up and have the money to spend on it but frankly my tv and dvd player work fine so I don't see the point in up grading them ever 5 mins plus the effect doesn't work perfectly with my vision. As mentioned earlier when I watched tv it's usually in my studio were I'm drawing or in my bedroom were I'm cleaning/ironing/online....I'd find it a pain in the ass to have to wear glasses [over my own glasses]. I don't agree 3D is the way it's all going at least not until they get rid of the glasses and make something that is effective for everyones vision. As it is I think we're moving more towards digital downloads of film and tv like we have with music and more people will be buying ipads or similar products. My friend and his wife opted to buy two ipads over a 3D tv for their bedroom as they both like to watch different things and really like using the ipad for that and switching between watching tv and reading on it. I only use my tv to watch dvds, I've no channels on it as I watch nearly all my tv online....the irish channels online set up sucks but I'm based in the uk currently and the bbc iplayer content is fantastic. I've a dual monitor system set up in my studio so can work on one screen and have movies/tv playing on the other and no glasses to be messing with.

Edit: Just to add people aren't bashing the OP for buying a 3D tv...it is their money and they are free to spend it as they like and frankly if they are going to get milage out of it that suits them more power to them. People are just saying that they aren't rushing out buying 3D tv's for a wide selection of reasons.

The Mad Hatter · 08-03-2011 09:23AM

CrinkElite wrote: »

b1tch b1tch b1tch, we'll all be lappin up 3d media in 3-5 years. the only reason why people are resisting it is because they invested in high quality 2d screens or just don't have the money to buy a 3d screen in the first place.

Er, no. 3D ticket sales are falling, proportionally. And here's why it doesn't work, and never will.

Sad Professor wrote: »

I think eyesight is a big issue and the main reason why 3D isn't going to be around very long. A lot of people don't have perfect vision in both eyes. My left eye is quite weak and I'm convinced that I'm not getting the full 3D effect as a result. I could definitely see the 3D effects in Avatar, but found them far from impressive. However, I saw absolutely no 3D in Tron: Legacy, nothing whatsoever. I don't know if that was just the film or me or what.

Hm, thought that was just me. My experience with Avatar and Tron was identical. I even took off the glasses a couple of times in Tron to check whether I was supposed to be seeing 3D.

ztoical · 08-03-2011 09:56AM

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

And here's why it doesn't work, and never will.

Fixed the link as it wasn't working - very interesting piece.

ztoical · 08-03-2011 10:29AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Avatar is by far the best use of 3D yet, it used the technology in a manner which immersed you in the world rather than constantly diverting your attention with pointless scenes of things being thrown our of the screen. The opening scene where they come out of cryo sleep is absolutely astounding to watch.

+ 1 that's one of the biggest failings I find with the 3D films...they don't immerse you in the world. Alice in Wonderland was the one that really turned me off the whole idea of 3D - ignoring how muted and dulled all the colour became in the 3D version it really was a case of film moving along then remebing they're doing a 3D version quick chuck something directly at the camera. Tangled had one scene were I really felt like I was part of the world

when they are in the boat and the lights are floating all around them I really thought wow, if all 3D felt like this I'd be sold on it

A great deal of that has to do with the fact pretty much every film, bar Avatar and a handful of others, has had the 3D effect tacked on after. Some knew when shooting it would be added and put in the few token to camera moments while others it was clear that it was a choice made during post. Producers are clearly into it as they see $$$ with it and cinemas after spending the $$$ on the projectors want the films to justify the cost but what the film makers? Other then Cameron whose pushing 3D? I know more directors who want to avoid it. Ignoring animated films as the process is different for them, there's only a handful of films in 3D coming up that have been filmed using the same system as Avatar but sadly it's films like Final Destination 5 and Spy Kids 4...alot of the big 3D films coming up were filmed flat and the effect added after [Priest, Green Lantern]

JOSman · 08-03-2011 10:44AM

Well done samapple789. Enjoy your purchase. I bought one last year and the Shrek movies were great in 3d. Anything else I've seen has been rubbish (poor 3d effects). I'm still not sorry I bought it.

Anyway its a high end TV with excellent bluray quality.

jaykhunter · 08-03-2011 11:18AM

ztoical wrote: »

frankly my tv and dvd player work fine so I don't see the point in up grading them ever 5 mins plus the effect doesn't work perfectly with my vision.

I think this is a huge reason why 3D won't take off. People in general are content with standard def, and how HD movies look on DVDs. I don't think the public en masse have accepted HD/Blu-Ray (especially in Ireland) as DVDs are cheap and have great picture quality, which is good enough for most people.

DVD adoption was definitely very quick, but Blu-Rays are still spluttering despite being out for a few years. If DVD is good enough for most people, only a portion of people want HD (enough to pay to upgrade) and only a portion of those want/will upgrade again to 3D. Although the plusses of HDTV is instantly recognisable, most people are more than happy with upscaled DVDs, if they even care about it. The limitations of having to wear glasses/having to be in a certain viewing angle/extra strain on one's eyes/brain is also an off-putting problem.

In short 3DTVs will have a really hard time becoming the norm, as it's predecessor is still having problems being accepted. We'll just have to wait until the future arrives and we have holographs

The Mad Hatter · 08-03-2011 11:40AM

jaykhunter wrote: »

I think this is a huge reason why 3D won't take off. People in general are content with standard def, and how HD movies look on DVDs. I don't think the public en masse have accepted HD/Blu-Ray (especially in Ireland) as DVDs are cheap and have great picture quality, which is good enough for most people.

DVD adoption was definitely very quick, but Blu-Rays are still spluttering despite being out for a few years. If DVD is good enough for most people, only a portion of people want HD (enough to pay to upgrade) and only a portion of those want/will upgrade again to 3D. Although the plusses of HDTV is instantly recognisable, most people are more than happy with upscaled DVDs, if they even care about it. The limitations of having to wear glasses/having to be in a certain viewing angle/extra strain on one's eyes/brain is also an off-putting problem.

In short 3DTVs will have a really hard time becoming the norm, as it's predecessor is still having problems being accepted. We'll just have to wait until the future arrives and we have holographs

To be honest, the reason I haven't adopted Blu-Ray is because I don't see it lasting - download is the way of the future, and I'm not willing to shell out huge amounts of cash on tech that'll only last a couple of years. (Said the Apple geek.)

jaykhunter · 08-03-2011 05:29PM

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

To be honest, the reason I haven't adopted Blu-Ray is because I don't see it lasting - download is the way of the future, and I'm not willing to shell out huge amounts of cash on tech that'll only last a couple of years. (Said the Apple geek.)

That's an excellent point; i imagine the cross-section of audio/videophiles and techies are quite large; so the potential audience that would flock to new tech (HD, 3D etc) might also know that downloading/streaming is the future of media....

The Mad Hatter · 08-03-2011 11:45PM

ztoical wrote: »

Fixed the link as it wasn't working - very interesting piece.

Fixed.

20-03-2011 03:09PM

ztoical wrote: »

Have seen several people saying this and have to say after seeing it in 3D in the cinema [and none 3D] it wouldn't be top of my list if I got a 3d tv....the 3D effect is only present in the digital world not the real world so you've got the first 15/20 mins of nothing and then frankly really limited 3D effects through. Tron Legacy is the only film after Avatar that I bother to go see both versions to see the difference and even as someone whose not overly impressed by 3D I was amazed at how crap the 3D effort was to the point were I don't know why they bothered.

I see what you mean about Tron Legacy, big let down 3D wise, good film but the 3D was no wear near the effort gone into Avatar.

norrie rugger · 20-03-2011 03:19PM

jaykhunter wrote: »

That's an excellent point; i imagine the cross-section of audio/videophiles and techies are quite large; so the potential audience that would flock to new tech (HD, 3D etc) might also know that downloading/streaming is the future of media....

Most of the world (Ireland included) does not have great broadband speeds, outside major urban areas.

GT5 wanted 68 hours to update, on my cousin's PS3.

20-03-2011 03:28PM

norrie rugger wrote: »

Most of the world (Ireland included) does not have great broadband speeds, outside major urban areas.

Monthly download caps don't help either.

filmbuffboy · 20-03-2011 04:24PM

most 3d films hurt my eyes.

went to see dawn treader 3d and tbh most of it looked normal. only once scene in particular stood out. wont b bothering with 3d again

The Mad Hatter · 20-03-2011 06:09PM

norrie rugger wrote: »

Most of the world (Ireland included) does not have great broadband speeds, outside major urban areas.

GT5 wanted 68 hours to update, on my cousin's PS3.

It'll come. I'm not exactly in the urban capital of the world, but I can still stream several HD movies at once from YouTube. (I love you, UPC. I don't care what they say.) Hell, my parents are as rural as it comes and they've still got reasonably good broadband. HD would require a download - say three times the length of what they want to watch - but standard definition streaming and downloading works just fine.

ztoical · 21-03-2011 10:50AM

I work for the largest tv production company in the UK and they are looking to focus more on options for presenting their shows online rather then getting programs made into 3D.

Kamjana · 24-06-2012 10:48PM

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but im just after getting a 3D TV and can anybody recommend something decent to watch on it?

Outkast_IRE · 24-06-2012 10:55PM

Kamjana wrote: »

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but im just after getting a 3D TV and can anybody recommend something decent to watch on it?

Yes personally i would stick to only movies filmed in proper 3d and animations,
off the top of my head i would look into gettin
Avatar
Tron legacy
Hugo
toy story 3
Up
Tin Tin

Others feel free to add im only listing off the top of my head ones which i know are quality.

Also when it becomes available Prometheus makes excellent use of 3d.

krudler · 24-06-2012 10:58PM

Kamjana wrote: »

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but im just after getting a 3D TV and can anybody recommend something decent to watch on it?

Hugo, Transformers 3, Avatar, all look excellent in the format

Kamjana · 24-06-2012 11:17PM

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

Yes personally i would stick to only movies filmed in proper 3d and animations,
off the top of my head i would look into gettin
Avatar
Tron legacy
Hugo
toy story 3
Up
Tin Tin

Others feel free to add im only listing off the top of my head ones which i know are quality.

Also when it becomes available Prometheus makes excellent use of 3d.

krudler wrote: »

Hugo, Transformers 3, Avatar, all look excellent in the format

Thanks,yeah Hugo and Transformers are on my list as is Avengers when it comes out.

I was going to buy Avatar but its not out in 3D yet,seemingly Panasonic had bought the rights to it and it was only available when you bought one of there TV's,i had a quick look on ebay and they are selling for €80 and up!!

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