PL: Liverpool v Manchester United. 6/3/2011, KO 1330.

IITYWYBMAD · 07-03-2011 10:10AM

cournioni wrote: »

The issue is that Carragher has a habit of doing this and getting away with it. ......

QED Nani.....Rooney etc... ad infinitum.

cournioni · 07-03-2011 10:10AM

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Serious lol.

It was a bad tackle. Rafael's tackle was as bad. Both got yellows, could've gotten reds.

Liverpool won 3-1.

End of story.

Cop on. Rafael got the ball.

Melion · 07-03-2011 10:12AM

cournioni wrote: »

Nani has been our best player this season so far and had to be strechered off yesterday as a result of that "challenge". So no, we won't give you a break. We've heard enough ****e over the week gone by about how Rooney should have been suspended, so now you have to listen to us.

In the last two games:

Chelsea were given a debatable penalty.
Luiz should have been sent off, twice.
Carragher should have been sent off.
Rodriguez should have been sent off.

So if it was Rooney or Carrick(Uniteds worst players this season) stretchered off it would have been ok? But because Nani has been your best player that somehow makes it worse?

And please, for the love of god, dont start going on about United having refereeing decisions go against them for once.

cournioni · 07-03-2011 10:13AM

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

QED Nani.....Rooney etc... ad infinitum.

What did Nani do? :rolleyes:

To be honest, I would have preferred if Rooney had been suspended for the past few games.

Melion · 07-03-2011 10:13AM

cournioni wrote: »

Cop on. Rafael got the ball.

Ill try again, this guy got the ball too. Does that make it ok?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBvhpPtXKR0

The Muppet · 07-03-2011 10:14AM

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Serious lol.

It was a bad tackle. Rafael's tackle was as bad. Both got yellows, could've gotten reds.

Liverpool won 3-1.

End of story.

Raking a players shin is thuggery, very seldom you see it in the professional game.

Rafael's tackle was noting like it.

I am aware of the score thank's, well done, your season is over now, time to plan for next year, you never know it just might be your year.:D

cournioni · 07-03-2011 10:15AM

Melion wrote: »

So if it was Rooney or Carrick(Uniteds worst players this season) stretchered off it would have been ok? But because Nani has been your best player that somehow makes it worse?

And please, for the love of god, dont start going on about United having refereeing decisions go against them for once.

I get your point. Its Nani's fault for being too quick. Sorry for arguing.

SlickRic · 07-03-2011 10:16AM

FatherTed wrote: »

Not so sure about all the gloating going on in here though and why all the Liverpool fans are so excited when they are sitting in 6th place. We have no midfield, played shyte away from home all season and have been poor in general. Yet we're still top of the Prem.

very simple.

1. some Liverpool fans are gloating because we beat Manchester United. United fans do the same when it's the other way round.

2. we're not 'excited' by 6th place. but you'll understand that after the first 4 months of the season, and arguably the whole last year, it does give us a huge sense of relief and excitement to be on the up for a change.

you'd swear both these were cardinal sins the way some rival fans go on.

K-9 · 07-03-2011 10:17AM

cournioni wrote: »

The issue is that Carragher has a habit of doing this and getting away with it. If it had been Rooney the papers would be dominated by stories about how he kills babies on the front and back pages.

Nani has been our best player this season so far and had to be strechered off yesterday as a result of that "challenge". So no, we won't give you a break. We've heard enough ****e over the week gone by about how Rooney should have been suspended, so now you have to listen to us.

In the last two games:

Chelsea were given a debatable penalty.
Luiz should have been sent off, twice.
Carragher should have been sent off.
Rodriguez should have been sent off.

I'd suggest applying the same reasoning on the Rooney case to Carra. Ref seen it and acted. Nothing can be done about it. Same with Rafael.

PS. That penalty wasn't very "debatable".

IITYWYBMAD · 07-03-2011 10:17AM

cournioni wrote: »

What did Nani do? :rolleyes:

To be honest, I would have preferred if Rooney had been suspended for the past few games.

It's what he does all the time. Faking, diving, histrionics, I've already said that. He's a cancer to the game, and it's players like him that have ref's getting all the blame for incorrect decisions. Like I said, if he was an "honest" player, Carragher would most probably have been sent off. But because this joke, week in week out, goes down like the main character in platoon, everytime somebody goes near him..nobody, including ref's believe him. Look at his reaction yesterday? Up on his feet, screaming at the ref, and then back down like he had lost his legs? He's a caricature of himself.

Will I Amnt · 07-03-2011 10:17AM

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

My advice to all those bitching and moaning would be to get over it and concentrate on the glaring deficiencies

The same glaring deficiencies that see us top of the table????nothing can be done about them till summer and this is a match thread,you'll find plenty of that in the superthread

Melion · 07-03-2011 10:17AM

The Muppet wrote: »

Raking a players shin is thuggery, very seldom you see it in the professional game.

Rafael's tackle was noting like it.

I am aware of the score thank's, well done, your season is over now, time to plan for next year, you never know it just might be your year.:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM

The Muppet · 07-03-2011 10:18AM

^ are the kids off school today?

SlickRic wrote: »

very simple.

1. some Liverpool fans are gloating because we beat Manchester United. United fans do the same when it's the other way round.

2. we're not 'excited' by 6th place. but you'll understand that after the first 4 months of the season, and arguably the whole last year, it does give us a huge sense of relief and excitement to be on the up for a change.

you'd swear both these were cardinal sins the way some rival fans go on.

It's only one game, a bit early for the on the up comments TBH, remember last week?;)

IITYWYBMAD · 07-03-2011 10:18AM

cambo2008 wrote: »

The same glaring deficiencies that see us top of the table????nothing can be done about them till summer and this is a match thread,you'll find plenty of that in the superthread

For now, and best of luck. I don't think they award the title in March???? + >????

sneakyST · 07-03-2011 10:18AM

Melion wrote: »

Ill try again, this guy got the ball too. Does that make it ok?

Nice one Melion , but I don't think people get the fact that it doesn't matter if you get the ball or not. Endangering the safety of an opponent is a red card all day with or without the ball. You are wasting your time I think.

SlickRic · 07-03-2011 10:23AM

The Muppet wrote: »

It's only one game, a bit early for the on the up comments TBH, remember last week?

i would have thought it's quite obvious the bigger picture is we're on the up again...playing better, winning more points than we have in a long while. and yesterday was a bit of extra confirmation of that.

but don't let that get in the way of a smug comment.

Will I Amnt · 07-03-2011 10:23AM

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

For now, and best of luck. I don't think they award the title in March???? + >????

Where in that post did I say anything other than being top for now,you might want to reply to what's posted and not what you imagine or have an easier answer for

Benimar · 07-03-2011 10:24AM

Liverpool fan here.

Carraghers tackle was a red card offence.

Rafaels tackle was a red card offence - how many times do we hear that it doesn't matter if you win the ball, if you go 2 footed it's a sending off offence.

Anyone who honestly thinks either player deserved to stay on the pitch is talking s*ite...and need to take off the blinkers, whichever shade of red they are wearing.

For what its worth, I think Dowd knew he'd been to lenient with Carra so he did the same with Rafael. We can argue which tackle is worse all day long, what isn't in doubt is both should have walked.

IITYWYBMAD · 07-03-2011 10:29AM

cambo2008 wrote: »

Where in that post did I say anything other than being top for now,you might want to reply to what's posted and not what you imagine or have an easier answer for

Last time I looked, I did not have to directly address every point in a post I was replying to.. But, just for you.

Yes you are correct, you are top of the table. Well done, for now. Jog on......

My point is, lets see if you can sustain that position with some glaring deficiencies in your team. Chelsea on the up. Arsenal might stumble to the title, but I fear that there are too few games left, and United may just struggle over the line.

If they do, and believe me in this. I will be the first to congratulate them*.

*This may not be true

The Muppet · 07-03-2011 10:31AM

SlickRic wrote: »

i would have thought it's quite obvious the bigger picture is we're on the up again...playing better, winning more points than we have in a long while. and yesterday was a bit of extra confirmation of that.

but don't let that get in the way of a smug comment.

I didn't:p

Melion · 07-03-2011 10:32AM

Just one more for the people defending Rafael for playing the ball first. Pogatetz played the ball first here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcF5xFxH7nA

Is that an ok tackle?

Frisbee · 07-03-2011 10:34AM

cournioni wrote: »

Cop on. Rafael got the ball.

That doesn't mean it wasn't a bad challenge. It was a shocker.

Will I Amnt · 07-03-2011 10:35AM

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

Last time I looked, I did not have to directly address every point in a post I was replying to.. But, just for you.

Yes you are correct, you are top of the table. Well done, for now. Jog on......

My point is, lets see if you can sustain that position with some glaring deficiencies in your team. Chelsea on the up. Arsenal might stumble to the title, but I fear that there are too few games left, and United may just struggle over the line.

If they do, and believe me in this. I will be the first to congratulate them*.

*This may not be true

Dont expect anyone to address everything just don't reply to things that aren't there,simple really

Melion · 07-03-2011 10:46AM

Melion wrote: »

Just one more for the people defending Rafael for playing the ball first. Pogatetz played the ball first here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcF5xFxH7nA
Is that an ok tackle?

Any United fan defending Rafael care to comment or is it best to just ignore things like this in case they damage your argument?

Grayditch · 07-03-2011 10:48AM

The Muppet wrote: »

Raking a players shin is thuggery, very seldom you see it in the professional game.

Rafael's tackle was noting like it.

Bahaha. Look again.

Dublin_Gunner · 07-03-2011 10:50AM

cournioni wrote: »

Cop on. Rafael got the ball.

Your understanding of the rules is far from extensive I see.

cournioni wrote: »

I get your point. Its Nani's fault for being too quick. Sorry for arguing.

I'd argue Lucas is quicker, as he managed to get out of the way of Rafael's extremely dangerous 2 footed ninja attack.

Nani wasn't quick enough.

Carra and Rafael should have had reds. Neither did, so we're even.

Liverpool battered ye all over the park.

Hope Nani's leg is better. Maybe he'll get a lolly and a Barbie plaster for his cut when he see's the doctor. Poor pet.

Grayditch · 07-03-2011 11:00AM

All this takes the attention off the embarrassing mauling Liverpool gave United yesterday. Wolves and Chelsea beat United to their credit, but that's the first pounding United have taken and not come back from in the league. I knew some team would pull United apart tactically and completely dominate them, but I feared Liverpool were not strong enough yet.

United won't be pulled apart like that again all season, and I doubt Arsenal will take them. 2-1 United and they'll lift the 19th, but Liverpool fans deserve to celebrate this win.

SlickRic · 07-03-2011 11:07AM

Grayditch wrote: »

All this takes the attention off the embarrassing mauling Liverpool gave United yesterday.

i enjoyed yesterday as much as anyone, but a mauling it wasn't.

Utd controlled decent periods of the game without doing much in all honesty, but we certainly didn't pull them apart.

the difference, quite simply, was Suarez and Kuyt up top, who coupled with Meireles' impressive running from midfield, made United's 'Vidic-and-Rio-less' defence look fairly ordinary.

our incisive forward play, coupled with their disorganised backline won the day. simple.

...who'd have thought we'd have said that again a few short months ago?!

...

Melion · 07-03-2011 11:08AM

I think i killed the Rafael/Carragher debate with my Pogatetz video

The Muppet · 07-03-2011 11:09AM

Melion wrote: »

I think i killed the Rafael/Carragher debate with my Pogatetz video

More likely your stupid southpark videos killed anyones desire to debate with you TBH.:p

SlickRic wrote: »

i enjoyed yesterday as much as anyone, but a mauling it wasn't.

Utd controlled decent periods of the game without doing much in all honesty, but we certainly didn't pull them apart.

the difference, quite simply, was Suarez and Kuyt up top, who coupled with Meireles' impressive running from midfield, made United's 'Vidic-and-Rio-less' defence look fairly ordinary.

our incisive forward play, coupled with their disorganised backline won the day. simple.

...who'd have thought we'd have said that again a few short months ago?! ...

Thats pretty much it though I though Meireles had a pretty poor game.

PL: Liverpool v Manchester United. 6/3/2011, KO 1330.

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