fuel prices

whelan1 · 05-03-2011 01:32PM #1

where will it end ? are ye cutting back on the use of diesel?

djmc · 05-03-2011 03:07PM

I have downgraded from jeep to diesal car 55mpg and dont burn oil in the house also thinking of having smaller tractor for certin jobs like topping etc.
and using a big tractor for jobs where hp is needed like spreading slurry.
Oil is only going up we are pushing close to peak oil when there is more demand than supply conuntries like china and india have a lot of people buying cars now that never owned a car before.
Oil would be a lot cheaper about half the price in fact only for the high tax and duty our goverment charges us on it.
On a side note I think its a disgrace the greens put a carbon tax on green ag diesel which will only further damage our agriculture production as we are the only country in the world who have done this that I know of
Its not like we can get a small co2 friendly tractor or electric tractor to do the work.
Even other countries that have carbon tax saw sence to spare the ag sector.

Jack C · 05-03-2011 03:35PM

I just ordered yesterday. €850 -1000L of green and €830-1000L of kero.
€1680. Got the same two years ago for exactly half.

Agri contractor · 05-03-2011 08:27PM

We bought alot of diesel 3 weeks ago, but the oil man phoned yeaterday to say it was at 82.5 and going up another 2cents again.

Casinoking · 05-03-2011 08:39PM

Jack C wrote: »

I just ordered yesterday. €850 -1000L of green and €830-1000L of kero.
€1680. Got the same two years ago for exactly half.

Don't forget diesel hit 90c/litre in 2008, and had halved in price 12 months later.

Muckit · 05-03-2011 08:48PM

Cycling to work myself since christmas. Has helped my waist and my wallet. OH got a new job nearer to home so will save there.

In the yard.......You won't beat the small perkins engine in the 135:D a miser!!

Only use NH when necessary

sh1tstirrer · 06-03-2011 12:27AM

Tractor run on H2o
http://www.gizmag.com/new-holland-nh2-hydrogen-powered-tractor/11171/

LK_Dave · 06-03-2011 01:31PM

Casinoking wrote: »

Don't forget diesel hit 90c/litre in 2008, and had halved in price 12 months later.

What price was the barrel of crude back at the last peak - if i remember correctly it was around $147 per barrel and I paid €1.44 at the pump (just checked by accounts). Today its $104 per barrel (just checked Bloomberg) and I paid €1.40 at the pump Friday evening! What changed since? GREEN TAXES

New government has to do something about this.

Pacoa · 06-03-2011 04:33PM

What changed since? GREEN TAXES

Im not sure it's all green taxes. Matt cooper was on about it one evening and a fella talking on the show said that back in 2008 petrol stations made a small margin on fuel and made most of there money on coffee and breakfeast rolls etc but that side of the bussiness is gone down now so they have to make more of a margin on the fuel.

LK_Dave · 06-03-2011 04:55PM

Pacoa wrote: »

Im not sure it's all green taxes. Matt cooper was on about it one evening and a fella talking on the show said that back in 2008 petrol stations made a small margin on fuel and made most of there money on coffee and breakfeast rolls etc but that side of the bussiness is gone down now so they have to make more of a margin on the fuel.

Fair point - I would suggest in light of this profiteering that in the national interest fuel prices be set centrally by government in an open and transparent manner. Prices should be published weekly stating wholesale and retail price – then we’ll know for sure who is screwing us.

haybob · 06-03-2011 11:07PM

Jesus at this rate I will be making cocks of hay and draw it with a horse.
I'm seriously considering going solid fuel all over the house I've the house well insulated but oil is getting ridiculous and I have plenty of bog and some forestry ready for thinning

Lads any tips to make tractors a bit more economical outside of changing oil and filters regularly.

Any of the tractor nerds here any updates on fuel economy, anything like a prius of tractors on the way

sh1tstirrer · 06-03-2011 11:11PM

haybob wrote: »

Jesus at this rate I will be making cocks of hay and draw it with a horse.
I'm seriously considering going solid fuel all over the house I've the house well insulated but oil is getting ridiculous and I have plenty of bog and some forestry ready for thinning

Lads any tips to make tractors a bit more economical outside of changing oil and filters regularly.

Any of the tractor nerds here any updates on fuel economy, anything like a prius of tractors on the way

H2o is water a tractor run on water or hydrogen gas that comes from water. Check link in post above.

haybob · 06-03-2011 11:18PM

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

H2o is water a tractor run on water or hydrogen gas that comes from water. Check link in post above.

Yea I seen that NH county file or somewhere but hadn't seen that article, how realistic is that I wonder??

At what point do we consider rape seed or something to make bio diesel

Agri contractor · 06-03-2011 11:27PM

Heard someone say Belarus are going electric

blue5000 · 06-03-2011 11:38PM

Came across this lately

http://www.dipetane.com/

In fairness some of what we do is a bit crazy, like using a 150hp tractor for topping or spreading fert when a tractor half that size is well capable of doing the same job.

In a lot of yards there is an industrial loader (usually with a 6 cylinder engine) used to fill a diet feeder, driven by another (at least 100hp) tractor. While other people just have a handy sized tractor, with a front loader doing basically the same job.

Even the new tier III engines are going to be less efficient than what is there now.

Micheal H · 06-03-2011 11:50PM

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

H2o is water a tractor run on water or hydrogen gas that comes from water. Check link in post above.

Sorry to be pedantic, but it's not a H2O tractor. It cannot be run on water -- only on hydrogen. You are right in saying that the hydrogen will come from water, though.

While it's a step in the right direction, the technology is 5 or 10 years off being financially viable yet.

sh1tstirrer · 07-03-2011 12:13AM

Micheal H wrote: »

Sorry to be pedantic, but it's not a H2O tractor. It cannot be run on water -- only on hydrogen. You are right in saying that the hydrogen will come from water, though.

No need to be sorry as I already stated that it was run on hydrogen

1st post and it's a nit picking post and it's spelt Michael.

F.D · 07-03-2011 09:48AM

With prices the way they are i wonder if it will pay off for those who bought vario gearboxes in there tractors, eg fendt etc, always bugs me doing road work slurry etc coming back empty and the tractor going at full revs to get some speed, not that i could afford one mind!!!

reilig · 07-03-2011 01:20PM

Agri contractor wrote: »

Heard someone say Belarus are going electric

yea, they're collecting them and they're going to bring them all back to Russia to burn them in a power station to produce electricity

Pacoa · 07-03-2011 05:38PM

Any one heard of this geet technology? Aparrently it's very popular in france.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHg3nrJZQ1I

This one explains it better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjmJYI4aJI

Micheal H · 07-03-2011 11:19PM

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

No need to be sorry as I already stated that it was run on hydrogen 1st post and it's a nit picking post and it's spelt Michael.

Thought I might as well start as I mean to carry on

Good Lord, all these years I've been spelling my own name wrong. The shame

sh1tstirrer · 08-03-2011 10:24PM

Micheal H wrote: »

Thought I might as well start as I mean to carry on Good Lord, all these years I've been spelling my own name wrong. The shame

Mícheal

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