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Actual value in a new Gibson? Can it be?

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  • #32
    rcaz
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    Crasp wrote: »
    What's the good in value for a new guitar if it's one of the ugliest ever made?

    The next few posts should be good... :pac:


  • #33
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    Crasp wrote: »
    What's the good in value for a new guitar if it's one of the ugliest ever made? Was hoping to see a nice SG for good money
    El Pr0n wrote: »
    The next few posts should be good... :pac:

    Ah, sure everyone's entitled to their opinion, and at least this opinion is confined to aesthetics rather than sound or build quality...


  • #34
    darrenw5094
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    Crasp wrote: »
    What's the good in value for a new guitar if it's one of the ugliest ever made? Was hoping to see a nice SG for good money

    Jaysus man. This is a LP thread. You don't like LP's. Why post that here?;)


  • #35
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    darrenw5094 wrote: »
    Jaysus man. This is a LP thread. You don't like LP's. Why post that here?;)

    Let's start a real argument!

    Personally, I find it offensive that you're all only discussing Les Pauls in this blatantly Les Paulocentric thread. The OP is implicitly insulting, degrading and dancing-on-the-granny's-grave of all the other musicians in the world who choose to play a different instrument, or even a different guitar. Personally, I play a vintage Rolf Harris endorsed stylophone, and I think it's BS that people who can play the guitar (I think) look down on my retro-themed musicianship. Though I also have 57 fuzz boxes, and they're way cool.

    How's that?:D


  • #36
    Paolo_M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Paolo_M


    Crasp wrote: »
    I was so close to putting in that they sound ****e... but I'd be lying, they don't... they can sound great.

    Good of you to make the leap and admit that!! :)

    If a Les Paul sounds bad it's entirely down to user error.


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  • #37
    Ravelleman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Crasp wrote: »
    What's the good in value for a new guitar if it's one of the ugliest ever made? Was hoping to see a nice SG for good money

    There is the 60s SG Special Tribute, which runs at €699. That might float your boat.


  • #38
    rcaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Paolo_M wrote: »
    If any guitar sounds bad it's entirely down to user error.

    FYP ;)

    Everything does something well. Joy Division had their own distinctive bass sound 'cause playing that high up on the neck was the only way to get the cheap bass they were using to sound good, apparently.


  • #39
    damonjewel
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    El Pr0n wrote: »
    FYP ;)

    Everything does something well. Joy Division had their own distinctive bass sound 'cause playing that high up on the neck was the only way to get the cheap bass they were using to sound good, apparently.

    Interesting.. but as a joy division fan I have to question this; as I guess you are talking about Unknown pleasures. I reckon probably there's only 4 songs on that album where the bass plays the higher registers, and I'd say that the joy Division Bass sound relied more on Martin Hannett' production skills than the cheap gear

    I would have thought by the next album they could afford decent gear :)

    My 2 roubles


  • #40
    Grolschevik
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    Christ... I'm off to play with my Stylophone. I may be some time...


  • #41
    Seziertisch
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    El Pr0n wrote: »
    FYP ;)

    Everything does something well. Joy Division had their own distinctive bass sound 'cause playing that high up on the neck was the only way to get the cheap bass they were using to sound good, apparently.

    That was what originally inspired the technique, but afaik said bass (a Rick copy) was no longer around for the recordings.

    His main bass in the studio was/is a Yamaha BB1200, basically a souped up P/J bass with a neck through design. A similar model (I think a BB1100) sold sometime fairly recently on adverts for suprisingly little money (500 Euro or thereabouts).

    Also, I don't think the bass on the Joy Division recordings sounds like a Rick (or a copy of one). Rick basses have a pretty distinctive sound.


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  • #42
    Welease
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    Grolschevik wrote: »
    Christ... I'm off to play with my Stylophone. I may be some time...

    Only because Rolf Harris played one.. you're such a brand whore ;)


  • #43
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    http://www.adverts.ie/guitar-bass/harley-benton-electric-rock-blues-guitar-and-accessories-for-sale/470324?ct=1#comments

    Just buy this lads, it's a super rare collectors piece, and such a bargain!!!!
    :rolleyes:


  • #44
    Paolo_M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Paolo_M


    Grolschevik wrote: »
    Christ... I'm off to play with my Stylophone. I may be some time...

    I was so close to putting in that Stylophones sound ****e... but I'd be lying, they don't... they can sound great.


  • #45
    rcaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Seziertisch wrote: »
    That was what originally inspired the technique, but afaik said bass (a Rick copy) was no longer around for the recordings.

    His main bass in the studio was/is a Yamaha BB1200, basically a souped up P/J bass with a neck through design. A similar model (I think a BB1100) sold sometime fairly recently on adverts for suprisingly little money (500 Euro or thereabouts).

    Also, I don't think the bass on the Joy Division recordings sounds like a Rick (or a copy of one). Rick basses have a pretty distinctive sound.

    I should probably refrain from talking about bands I don't know very much about on in the internet :pac:


  • #46
    Miklos
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    Ravelleman wrote: »
    There is the 60s SG Special Tribute, which runs at €699. That might float your boat.

    Now that's what I'm talkin' about. I'll have one in white please.


  • #47
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    [IMG][/img]5478812445_cf7ac0667f.jpg SG by mynameistyrrell, on Flickr:eek:


  • #48
    Ravelleman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    I don't see the big appeal of the Tribute SG though to be honest.

    I'd rather hold out for an SG Classic.

    With fretboard binding.

    And glossy nitro.

    And woods of a more than probably less dubious quality.


  • #49
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,741 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    SG Classic's are discontinued in europe now though.

    And they were almost twice the price.


  • #50
    Ravelleman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Buy from the States. Shop cleverly and there's many a deal to be had.

    You could definitely get an SG Classic into Ireland for under €900 shipped and taxed.


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