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anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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  • #2492
    Gypsies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Gypsies


    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    lets see the women who joined the ira done so knowing that they would face constant harassement and assault by the british and irish security forces they would also not be able to live a normal life, they would most lighly do time in jail and there was a good chance they would be killed and you can sit on your cosy chair and call them cowards . you are really brave

    lol - more fool them.. They CHOSE not to live a normal life and they CHOSE to get themselves mixed up with terrorists.. I have no sorrow for them.. Brave? NOT!! Stupid? YES!


  • #2493
    ultain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭ultain


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Ah, 40% of Ireland are secretly masochists and desperately want to suffer as much as possible?

    Secretly?


  • #2494
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Nodin wrote: »
    Not pleased it looks like they're going to double their seats then, I take it?
    No, it won't cheer most of us but it's to be expected. People go to strange places when times are hard. Interesting you should take about doubling. Didn't the BNP double their share if the vote in the UK last year? ;)
    Let's wait and see when (if!) times return to something like normal if the lads grow, or even retain their current support.


  • #2495
    Dwellingdweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Dwellingdweller


    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    you must be getting me mixed up with somebody else i couldnt give a flyin fcuk what what the ordianry men and women of ireland want as far as iam concerned if your not republican your not irish

    and if you're not loyalist you're not english?


  • #2496
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Fine Gael are not Tories :rolleyes:

    You really are so brainwashed, that if Irish people don't agree with what the PIRA did, then they must either be Tories, or not proper Irish men, or both? With people like you voting for Sinn Fein (with that kind of SF reasoning), makes me really glad that I have nothing whatsoever to do with your movement.

    firstly there are women in ireland too and secondly iam sure sinn fein or equally glad that you are not part of their movement


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  • #2497
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Nodin wrote: »
    You're sure now?

    Our friend the lorry driver wishes to portray enemies of the PIRA as 'Tories' wheras in reality, most IRISH people did not support the PIRA, as you well know. Mind you, I guess Enda, Nick, & David will get on well ;)


  • #2498
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Our friend the lorry driver wishes to portray enemies of the PIRA as 'Tories' wheras in reality, most IRISH people did not support the PIRA, as you well know.

    Mind you, I guess Enda & David will get on well ;)

    O yes. Birds of a feather and all that.


  • #2499
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    Dwellingdweller wrote: »
    and if you're not loyalist you're not english?

    sure whatever


  • #2500
    KIERAN1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭KIERAN1


    Some people posting to this thread have a real hatred for Sinn fein. Ok I think the conflict got out of hand to put it mildly, but the IRA was seriously the only thing protecting Catholic communities for decades from Loyalist mobs. There was no police force protecting them. I think some of you seriously need to open a history book or watch a documentary from that time.


  • #2501
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    Gypsies wrote: »
    lol - more fool them.. They CHOSE not to live a normal life and they CHOSE to get themselves mixed up with terrorists.. I have no sorrow for them.. Brave? NOT!! Stupid? YES!

    everybody is going to die sometime at least those who fought for the ira can say they done something, they achieved something


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  • #2502
    ultain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭ultain


    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    you must be getting me mixed up with somebody else i couldnt give a flyin fcuk what what the ordianry men and women of ireland want as far as iam concerned if your not republican your not irish

    Ah now that's a little harsh, Dont take the bait.


  • #2503
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Nodin wrote: »
    O yes. Birds of a feather and all that.

    Pauline Quirke was my fave.


  • #2504
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Our friend the lorry driver wishes to portray enemies of the PIRA as 'Tories' wheras in reality, most IRISH people did not support the PIRA, as you well know. Mind you, I guess Enda, Nick, & David will get on well ;)

    sure the last fine gael leader we hadjohn brutal set the peace process back five years and then made a complete dick of himself by going up prince charles hole. i suppose when the queen visits enda will apoligise for 1916 and give the 26 counties back


  • #2505
    Gypsies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Gypsies


    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    everybody is going to die sometime at least those who fought for the ira can say they done something, they achieved something

    Indeed - they "done" a lot of harm to innocent people through the years and achieved nothing for this country but embarrassment and shame!


  • #2506
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    thats right shame lets see if gerry adams goes to america or anywhere else in the world crowds gather to see him lets see if enda can gain such international respect. and the ira acheived equality for nationalists and the british have agreed to a withdrawal from ireland


  • #2507
    ultain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭ultain


    Gypsies wrote: »
    Indeed - they "done" a lot of harm to innocent people through the years and achieved nothing for this country but embarrassment and shame!
    Gypsies make your point without putting a dig in..good boy.


  • #2508
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    KIERAN1 wrote: »
    Some people posting to this thread have a real hatred for Sinn fein. Ok I think the conflict got out of hand to put it mildly,

    Of course many Irish people have a hatred for them :rolleyes: I am old enough to remember the 70s, 80s, 90s, I remember the Bombs & the bullets, I remember the bits of bodies being scraped off the pavements (courtesy of Republican Bombs) and most of all I remember the refusal of Adams & Sinn Fein to condemn the IRA death squads, and that is why I hate them, Yes the Loyalist side were scum too, and 'Yes' the security forces had many bad apples among their rank, but the PIRA were the main terrorist engine maintaining the troubles for as long as they did, right up until 94', when they just called an end to the deaths, and they stopped - just like that!

    Adams began to gain votes after the IRA murders stopped, but the fact remains that he was involved with the PIRA (in one way or another), and he would never condemn the murders perpetrated by the PIRA, so yeah, maybe I dont like him or his movement, to put it mildly . . .


  • #2509
    Dwellingdweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Dwellingdweller


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Of course many Irish people have a hatred for them :rolleyes: I am old enough to remember the 70s, 80s, 90s, I remember the Bombs & the bullets, I remember the bits of bodies being scraped off the pavements (courtesy of Republican Bombs) and most of all I remember the refusal of Adams & Sinn Fein to condemn the IRA death squads, and that is why I hate them, Yes the Loyalist side were scum too, and 'Yes' the security forces had many bad apples among their rank, but the PIRA were the main terrorist engine maintaining the troubles for as long as they did, right up until 94', when they just called an end to the deaths, and they stopped - just like that!

    Adams began to gain votes after the IRA murders stopped, but the fact remains that he was involved with the PIRA (in one way or another), and he would never condemn the murders perpetrated by the PIRA, so yeah, maybe I dont like him or his movement, to put it mildly . . .

    Adams was one of the few trying to stop the killing. Whether or not that changes your opinion is another thing entirely but look at all of the picture and not just the obvious part.


  • #2510
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    My opinion of Adams is very firm thank you.


  • #2511
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    you must be getting me mixed up with somebody else i couldnt give a flyin fcuk what what the ordianry men and women of ireland want as far as iam concerned if your not republican your not irish

    I can't say this sort of attitude surprises me from a shinner.


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  • #2512
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    KIERAN1 wrote: »
    Some people posting to this thread have a real hatred for Sinn fein. Ok I think the conflict got out of hand to put it mildly, but the IRA was seriously the only thing protecting Catholic communities for decades from Loyalist mobs. There was no police force protecting them. I think some of you seriously need to open a history book or watch a documentary from that time.
    Ah yes, this again.
    I suppose I could point out that it isn't particularly this activity of PIRA that most of us have an issue with but there subsequent presumption to have the authority to represent Irish people despite been repeatedly told "not in our name". But I have done so many times before and no doubt you'll refuse to address it like the rest of the republicans (:pac:) do.
    So I won't bother.:cool:


  • #2513
    ultain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭ultain


    LordSutch wrote: »
    My opinion of Adams is very firm thank you.

    32C?


  • #2514
    wee truck big driver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭wee truck big driver


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Of course many Irish people have a hatred for them :rolleyes: I am old enough to remember the 70s, 80s, 90s, I remember the Bombs & the bullets, I remember the bits of bodies being scraped off the pavements (courtesy of Republican Bombs) and most of all I remember the refusal of Adams & Sinn Fein to condemn the IRA death squads, and that is why I hate them, Yes the Loyalist side were scum too, and 'Yes' the security forces had many bad apples among their rank, but the PIRA were the main terrorist engine maintaining the troubles for as long as they did, right up until 94', when they just called an end to the deaths, and they stopped - just like that!

    Adams began to gain votes after the IRA murders stopped, but the fact remains that he was involved with the PIRA (in one way or another), and he would never condemn the murders perpetrated by the PIRA, so yeah, maybe I dont like him or his movement, to put it mildly . . .

    iits this sort of additude which means the r.i.r.a have little bother getting new recruits


  • #2515
    Gypsies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Gypsies


    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    thats right shame lets see if gerry adams goes to america or anywhere else in the world crowds gather to see him lets see if enda can gain such international respect. and the ira acheived equality for nationalists and the british have agreed to a withdrawal from ireland

    The IRA found many naive supporters in the US - Irish Americans who hadn't a clue about what was really going on! They would send their "troops" over to the US to blab sob stories & romanic tales of the IRA fighting for freedom for Ireland blah, blah, blah. I can tell you that much of that support dwindled a few years back, when people started to hear the real truth about the IRA and where their US donations were going! The fairytale became a horror story for many - not so much support there now, not to mind respect...


  • #2516
    FUNKY LOVER
    Closed Accounts Posts: 905 ✭✭✭FUNKY LOVER


    i wonder how many anti sf people here would still take the same stance if they happen to be born across the border and witnessed their friends family etc been shot by loyalists and pulled from their homes.if they say they yould have let this happen and not defended themselves I would be shocked.totally different lives down here to up there.


  • #2517
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    thats right shame lets see if gerry adams goes to america or anywhere else in the world crowds gather to see him lets see if enda can gain such international respect. and the ira acheived equality for nationalists and the british have agreed to a withdrawal from ireland

    Have you ever been to Boston? I visited some friends in 'Southie' a few years ago. Boston is full of 'Irish' people who have never been to Ireland and have a romanticised idea of what Ireland is like. Heck, one of my friends was working in an Irish bar for a woman who had left Ireland in the 60s. She asked my friend if Ireland had electricity yet. Ireland had electricity when she left. She had become brainwashed by the paddywhackery nonsense peddled by the likes of Noraid.

    Of course Gerry is going to be popular with those brainwashed imbeciles.


  • #2518
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    iits this sort of additude which means the r.i.r.a have little bother getting new recruits

    D you mean 'Agree with us' or else?

    Surely we are allowed to condemn a prescribed terrorist organisation? or must all irish people tow the SF/IRA line, & Obey :cool:


  • #2519
    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    wee truck big driver wrote: »
    iits this sort of additude which means the r.i.r.a have little bother getting new recruits

    I'm hardly surprised that our pet shinner of the day is an expert on the recruiting status of one of the NI terrorist bodies.


  • #2520
    KIERAN1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭KIERAN1


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Of course many Irish people have a hatred for them :rolleyes: I am old enough to remember the 70s, 80s, 90s, I remember the Bombs & the bullets, I remember the bits of bodies being scraped off the pavements (courtesy of Republican Bombs) and most of all I remember the refusal of Adams & Sinn Fein to condemn the IRA death squads, and that is why I hate them, Yes the Loyalist side were scum too, and 'Yes' the security forces had many bad apples among their rank, but the PIRA were the main terrorist engine maintaining the troubles for as long as they did, right up until 94', when they just called an end to the deaths, and they stopped - just like that!

    Adams began to gain votes after the IRA murders stopped, but the fact remains that he was involved with the PIRA (in one way or another), so yeah, maybe I dont like him or his movement, to put it mildly . . .

    Seen terrible terrorist atrocities on your TV screen should trouble a sane mind, but my point of view is the North was not a sane place for long periods of history. The Catholic Community in the North tried their best to get civil rights, but were often stopped from marching and often marchers were physically attacked by the Protestant B-specials the Police force of Northern Ireland. Is it any wonder Catholic men were drawn to violent confrontation.


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  • #2521
    Gypsies
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭Gypsies


    The Brigadier wrote: »
    I'm hardly surprised that our pet shinner of the day is an expert on the recruiting status of one of the NI terrorist bodies.

    Maybe that's what he uses his big truck for.. ;)


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