[CoD Black Ops] - MegaBitch thread

jetpack101 · 22-02-2011 12:48PM

Magill wrote: »

LOL

It wouldn't have been because your son was shooting someones feet or from a long distance while the other guy got chest/headshots ?

I understand that connection can effect hit reg etc but if you're on a good connection and are pinging to the host at roughly the same as a person from the UK then conditions are more or less equal.

They wouldn't have been raping you because they were better players or simply a team of organised players ? Its obviously because they're from the UK.... you know... because treyarch have added code in the game to make players from the UK do more damage.

O sorry I forgot...... The UK are always better players and they never get the advantage....

I have a friend in the UK who we play Black Ops with all the time, He played from my profile here in Ireland and was very surprised at the difference and at how long it took to kill someone. (I'm on a 30mb connection while he's not on half that in the UK)

I have had lobbies with France, Germany and the USA to name a few but its mostly with the UK that we get this problem.

One little observation I did make while watching people play!!!
They are running around getting kills and being killed as you would in this game. Then they get one or two players where you would put almost the entire clip into them and nothing happens only hit markers.
Its at that point they always say "Bet he's from the UK". So this is more prominent then they even realize.

So yes you do have an advantage.
Yes there are good players from the UK. Some of these players I would give the thumbs up to when they catch me out, if your good your good.

The problem is when you have lots of WTF moments and most of these are with UK players.

22-02-2011 01:11PM

jetpack101 wrote: »

I have a friend in the UK who we play Black Ops with all the time, He played from my profile here in Ireland and was very surprised at the difference and at how long it took to kill someone. (I'm on a 30mb connection while he's not on half that in the UK)

I have had lobbies with France, Germany and the USA to name a few but its mostly with the UK that we get this problem.

Do you even know how the connection system works? If the host is in the UK then yes, UK players will have an advantage, if the host is from Ireland then you'll have an advantage over them.

draffodx wrote: »

Can anyone explain to me why Treyarch felt the need to bring the scope kills back into the game?

Black Ops had very little annoyance in it at the start, I knew if I got killed it was because the other player done better than I did.

But since the scope kills were reintroduced and since xmas brought a ream of ass holes to the game its starting to become more annoying with bull**** kills from snipers and idiots running around knifing me from across the room!

:mad:

They've more or less fixed knifing and if you think using a sniper like that is easier than using an AR or SMG try doing both for a game and report back your scores. I have something like a .85 K/D with the L96 and a 1.00 K/D with the PSG which I normally do run around with and try to QS more than I should. I have a higher K/D with every AR and SMG that I use regularly. It was a slight problem in MW2 because the made SOHP so good but snipers are anything but overpowered in this game and I really hope IW bring back proper sniping in MW3 although I quite like the sniping in this game I must admit

Magill · 22-02-2011 01:55PM

jetpack101 wrote: »

O sorry I forgot...... The UK are always better players and they never get the advantage....

I have a friend in the UK who we play Black Ops with all the time, He played from my profile here in Ireland and was very surprised at the difference and at how long it took to kill someone. (I'm on a 30mb connection while he's not on half that in the UK)

I have had lobbies with France, Germany and the USA to name a few but its mostly with the UK that we get this problem.

One little observation I did make while watching people play!!!
They are running around getting kills and being killed as you would in this game. Then they get one or two players where you would put almost the entire clip into them and nothing happens only hit markers.
Its at that point they always say "Bet he's from the UK". So this is more prominent then they even realize.

So yes you do have an advantage.
Yes there are good players from the UK. Some of these players I would give the thumbs up to when they catch me out, if your good your good.

The problem is when you have lots of WTF moments and most of these are with UK players.

Thanks for the lol's... but it just sounds like you're a newb or an experienced bad player looking for excuses with a grudge against UK players because you get whooped by them so often.

draffodx wrote: »

Can anyone explain to me why Treyarch felt the need to bring the scope kills back into the game?

Black Ops had very little annoyance in it at the start, I knew if I got killed it was because the other player done better than I did.

But since the scope kills were reintroduced and since xmas brought a ream of ass holes to the game its starting to become more annoying with bull**** kills from snipers and idiots running around knifing me from across the room!

:mad:

Seriously... is someone just ****ing with me today or are these posts genuine bitch posts ? Someone actually complaining because they got killed by a sniper.... IN BLACK OPS !!! WHAT ???

jetpack101 · 22-02-2011 02:07PM

Liam O wrote: »

Do you even know how the connection system works? If the host is in the UK then yes, UK players will have an advantage, if the host is from Ireland then you'll have an advantage over them.

With relation to the host having advantage.
I have also found this problem when We have host. So thats not true....
I have been in games with really bad lag and still get the kills but would eventually leave as it was just to bad to play on.

Magill wrote: »

Thanks for the lol's... but it just sounds like you're a newb or an experienced bad player looking for excuses with a grudge against UK players because you get whooped by them so often.

And there it is...... I'm a nube

Good man.....

You also forgot to mention my poor connection (30Mb) or some other factor other then the game.

Its amazing how you people crawl out of the wood work when someone tries to have a dig at the game. Your a nube, its lag, its your connection or what every else you can come up with other then blame the game.

Have you even looked to see what engine the game is running on or the history of that engine??

Are you seriously telling me you can't give a server priority host?

Shammy · 22-02-2011 02:13PM

jetpack101 wrote: »

And there it is...... I'm a nube
Good man.....

Whats a nube ?

Some people are just sponges , i dont think theres anything you can do about it, i play regulary with lads from the uk , sometimes you'll come across people you just cant put down .

shawpower · 22-02-2011 02:19PM

Shammy wrote: »

Some people are just sponges , i dont think theres anything you can do about it, i play regulary with lads from the uk , sometimes you'll come across people you just cant put down .

This. I also play a lot with guys from the UK and also the US. There are some games where I'm on a 3 bar with UK hosts, and just can not put anyone down. Full clip with hitmarkers and nothing happens. Other games I've a 2 bar to the US, but everything seems fine.

But equally, I've seen games the exact opposite where my 3 bar to UK hosts is perfect. It's not that the UK in general get an advantage, but more that some hosts just don't work with my ISP as an example of 1 possible reason.

Heck, we've threads here on Boards where Munster Broadband and UPC just will not work together if Munster BB has host.

yimrsg · 22-02-2011 02:32PM

There are far too many variations experienced in black ops with regard to hosting, there are times as others have said that their connection on 2 bars is managable even good other times 2 bars is unplayable. The same holds true for 3 and 4 bar connections. It's a lottery, players running around absorbing clips of bullets and killing you in the blink of an eye. Often you're seeing things what feels like half a second later than the host team. Other times you can be playing in the same lobby and you'll be blessed with the host advantage.

I keep bringing up MW2 in my comparisons with Black Ops but since the guns are more powerful & there is stopping power, the likelihood of killing an opponent quickly is greater. Also the connections seem more solid and even, what little host advantage there is, is negated by the more powerful weaponry. If I shoot that little bit quicker than you I can negate the host advantage.

Magill · 22-02-2011 02:32PM

jetpack101 wrote: »

With relation to the host having advantage.
I have also found this problem when We have host. So thats not true....
I have been in games with really bad lag and still get the kills but would eventually leave as it was just to bad to play on.

And there it is...... I'm a nube
Good man.....

You also forgot to mention my poor connection (30Mb) or some other factor other then the game.

Its amazing how you people crawl out of the wood work when someone tries to have a dig at the game. Your a nube, its lag, its your connection or what every else you can come up with other then blame the game.

Have you even looked to see what engine the game is running on or the history of that engine??

Are you seriously telling me you can't give a server priority host?

I haven't said there was nothing wrong with the game itself.. but its the same for everyone. But you seem to think that treyarch have magically put in place some code that gives players with a UK postcode an advantage ! There are alot of things that can affect hit registration in this game but that isnt one of them.... FACT(well.... more or less

, poor bastards over in connacht are the exception)

jugger0 · 22-02-2011 03:11PM

The connections in this game is the main problem, its the laggiest piece of **** ive ever played. Ive had to quit out of countless games because of having a 2 bar, i find canadians the worst, if they have host its game over! things like second chance get made far worse when lags involved, they're shooting you while they're still invunrable... i miss call of duty 3.

Shammy · 22-02-2011 03:15PM

jugger0 wrote: »

The connections in this game is the main problem, its the laggiest piece of **** ive ever played. Ive had to quit out of countless games because of having a 2 bar, i find canadians the worst, if they have host its game over! things like second chance get made far worse when lags involved, they're shooting you while they're still invunrable... i miss call of duty 3.

Put your seach on locale only and that will stop you jumping into canadian rooms , also make sure your nat is set to open

jugger0 wrote: »

i miss call of duty 3.

Seriously !!

jimbling · 22-02-2011 03:34PM

Shammy wrote: »

Put your seach on locale only

Are you mad man!!! If you go down that road you'd only end up playing those damn sneaky UK cheats even more :pac:

jetpack101 · 22-02-2011 03:40PM

Magill wrote: »

I think your missing my point.

This game will never be right until they put in dedicated servers or carry out a dramatic overhaul of the COD software.

Even if it cost 3-4 million a year to run the servers (which I don't think it would) its still a very good investment considering the returns they would get.

Atomic Pineapple · 22-02-2011 03:50PM

Leeg17 wrote: »

What do you mean Draff?

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

Quick scoping, unless I'm mistaken.

Yes quick scoping, the game was far enjoyable before they introduced it.

Liam O wrote: »

They've more or less fixed knifing and if you think using a sniper like that is easier than using an AR or SMG try doing both for a game and report back your scores. I have something like a .85 K/D with the L96 and a 1.00 K/D with the PSG which I normally do run around with and try to QS more than I should. I have a higher K/D with every AR and SMG that I use regularly. It was a slight problem in MW2 because the made SOHP so good but snipers are anything but overpowered in this game and I really hope IW bring back proper sniping in MW3 although I quite like the sniping in this game I must admit

I'm not a sniper nor have I ever been one in any game ever, nor did I say snipers have an advantage or are over powered in the game, its certainly not as bad as MW2 either.

My problem is quick scoping is not what being a sniper should be about, a sniper class should be about long range precision shots from advantage points not running around popping totally unrealistic shots off everywhere. And introducing quick scoping because the maps don't suit snipers irritates me.

Magill wrote: »

Seriously... is someone just ****ing with me today or are these posts genuine bitch posts ? Someone actually complaining because they got killed by a sniper.... IN BLACK OPS !!! WHAT ???

I've no problem getting killed by a sniper as I stated before they introduced quick scoping back into the game it was fine.

Shammy · 22-02-2011 03:52PM

jetpack101 wrote: »

I think your missing my point.

This game will never be right until they put in dedicated servers or carry out a dramatic overhaul of the COD software.

Even if it cost 3-4 million a year to run the servers (which I don't think it would) its still a very good investment considering the returns they would get.

Dedicated servers on a console is something i dont see happening , i dont see how it would be a good investment when their returns would be the same , actually less because of the cost of running dedicated servers. Developers nowadays dont make games to last , its all on how much money they can make , think about it , a new cod every year not to mention fifa , nba , madden , n4s etc etc .

Leeg17 · 22-02-2011 03:52PM

they didn't bring it back in?

shawpower · 22-02-2011 04:00PM

Shammy wrote: »

Dedicated servers on a console is something i dont see happening , i dont see how it would be a good investment when their returns would be the same , actually less because of the cost of running dedicated servers. Developers nowadays dont make games to last , its all on how much money they can make , think about it , a new cod every year not to mention fifa , nba , madden , n4s etc etc .

There was talk a while ago of Activision doing a WOW system where you pay on an ongoing basis. I think that's been squashed now, but personally I wouldn't have any major problem paying a fixed monthly fee (although a low one) as long as the end product was worth it. For this to be the case, I'd want dedicated servers, GameUpdates included (e.g. First Strike), high support quality (BOps rather than MW2) etc.

Shammy · 22-02-2011 04:02PM

shawpower wrote: »

There was talk a while ago of Activision doing a WOW system where you pay on an ongoing basis. I think that's be squashed now, but personally I wouldn't have any major problem paying a fixed monthly fee (although a low one) as long as the end product was worth it. For this to be the case, I'd want dedicated servers, GameUpdates included (e.g. First Strike), high support quality (BOps rather than MW2) etc.

From what i can remember that was activision just being greedy and wanting more money :eek:

shawpower · 22-02-2011 04:22PM

Shammy wrote: »

From what i can remember that was activision just being greedy and wanting more money :eek:

100%. But if it's more money for them and a better product for me, I'd consider it.

I reckon that the COD beater will end up working like this. Free or cheap to "buy" it initially. Regular updates, patches, dedicated servers etc. But a monthly payment needed.

everlast75 · 22-02-2011 04:27PM

shawpower wrote: »

100%. But if it's more money for them and a better product for me, I'd consider it.

I reckon that the COD beater will end up working like this. Free or cheap to "buy" it initially. Regular updates, patches, dedicated servers etc. But a monthly payment needed.

and for xbox players, the additional monthly fee to xbox live...

Magill · 22-02-2011 04:43PM

shawpower wrote: »

100%. But if it's more money for them and a better product for me, I'd consider it.

I reckon that the COD beater will end up working like this. Free or cheap to "buy" it initially. Regular updates, patches, dedicated servers etc. But a monthly payment needed.

Id say they have to go down that route aswel, tbh if they're smart they could make a ****ing bomb. Blizzard are so crafty its not even funny. Not only have they sold like 20 million copies of the game and 8-10ish of each expansion, they've also had like 6 years of £9x10,000,000/month subs... (I doubt it costs them £90m a month to run their servers

)

But also they sell ingame items for cash, i think the first item they sold was an ingame mount... cost 20 euros and sold over 140,000 units in the first 4 hours ! It is essientially nothing but a reskin.. a weeks work.. if that for one of developers.

draffodx wrote: »

Yes quick scoping, the game was far enjoyable before they introduced it.

I'm not a sniper nor have I ever been one in any game ever, nor did I say snipers have an advantage or are over powered in the game, its certainly not as bad as MW2 either.

My problem is quick scoping is not what being a sniper should be about, a sniper class should be about long range precision shots from advantage points not running around popping totally unrealistic shots off everywhere. And introducing quick scoping because the maps don't suit snipers irritates me.

I've no problem getting killed by a sniper as I stated before they introduced quick scoping back into the game it was fine.

I think your idea of what cod should be is unrealistic. The reason you didnt mind getting killed by snipers before is because it probably didnt happen that often !! Because they were absolutely horrible.. and they arent that much better now tbh.

If this was battlefield where a sniper had a clear advantage at long range then i would agree... but the fact that people running around with an SMG can outsnipe snipers on nearly every map bar array just makes your complaint silly. And if its realism your after... do you think that if a trained soldier was walking around with a sniper rifle and had to shoot someone 10 foot in front of him without taking aim that he would miss... he'd blow him in half !!

EXAMPLE VIDEO !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdYVU0p-TvY

Nuri Sahin · 22-02-2011 05:01PM

everlast75 wrote: »

and for xbox players, the additional monthly fee to xbox live...

I'm sure Activsion will make us pay for your console as well as ours so all you's have to worry about is the XBL sub :pac:

Atomic Pineapple · 22-02-2011 07:29PM

Magill wrote: »

I think your idea of what cod should be is unrealistic. The reason you didnt mind getting killed by snipers before is because it probably didnt happen that often !! Because they were absolutely horrible.. and they arent that much better now tbh.

If this was battlefield where a sniper had a clear advantage at long range then i would agree... but the fact that people running around with an SMG can outsnipe snipers on nearly every map bar array just makes your complaint silly. And if its realism your after... do you think that if a trained soldier was walking around with a sniper rifle and had to shoot someone 10 foot in front of him without taking aim that he would miss... he'd blow him in half !!

Thats my point the maps are totally unsuited to snipers and unbalanced for a mix of smg/assault rifles and snipers.

I think I failed to get what I dont like across properly. Its a minor complaint and I was just saying quick scoping is something I'd prefer not to see in a game.

As for a trained soldier he or she wouldn't be walking around with a sniper rifle in a gun fire situation, that would be suicide.

Desire to Aspire · 22-02-2011 07:36PM

Shammy wrote: »

Dedicated servers on a console is something i dont see happening , i dont see how it would be a good investment when their returns would be the same , actually less because of the cost of running dedicated servers. Developers nowadays dont make games to last , its all on how much money they can make , think about it , a new cod every year not to mention fifa , nba , madden , n4s etc etc .

Incognito did it with Warhawk.

Shammy · 22-02-2011 08:20PM

Desire to Aspire wrote: »

Incognito did it with Warhawk.

Ps3 only and that was back in 07 , has it been done since ?

Desire to Aspire · 22-02-2011 08:36PM

Shammy wrote: »

Ps3 only and that was back in 07 , has it been done since ?

Slant Six Games did it with SOCOM Confrontation.

Shammy · 22-02-2011 08:39PM

Desire to Aspire wrote: »

Slant Six Games did it with SOCOM Confrontation.

Didnt that game fail badly ? and again only ps3 , plus werent they released first year of the ps3 , personally i think it was a try out and it didnt bring the revenue needed . Its a pity really as i'd have no problem paying a sub on the ps3 for dedicated servers , but multi-platform games it seems to be a non-starter.

Magill · 22-02-2011 08:45PM

Shammy wrote: »

Ps3 only and that was back in 07 , has it been done since ?

KZ3 is i think(or at least some form of hybrid

).. and isnt BC2 ?

Its a poor excuse from activision not to use dedicated servers. They grossed over a billion dollars for black ops. A backbone to support the playerbase would probably cost say 5% of that (Total guess... but i cant imagine it costing more than 50million or anywhere close really.) and that would last for quite a few CoD releases... the increase in quality would be incredible.

Risteard · 22-02-2011 08:46PM

I think I've hit the wall with regard to Black Ops. Played a few games today and was doing pretty well, got a couple of chopper gunners but found it pretty meh. A small bit of enjoyment was gained from my discovery of the Tomahawk but I'm pretty bored with this. I'll still try get to 15th but I probably won't be saying at the same rate as previously.

Shammy · 22-02-2011 08:48PM

Magill wrote: »

KZ3 is i think(or at least some form of hybrid ).. and isnt BC2 ?

I dont know , there are some support servers alright .

Magill wrote: »

Its a poor excuse from activision not to use dedicated servers. They grossed over a billion dollars for black ops. A backbone to support the playerbase would probably cost say 5% of that (Total guess... but i cant imagine it costing more than 50million or anywhere close really.) and that would last for quite a few CoD releases... the increase in quality would be incredible.

+1

jugger0 · 22-02-2011 09:52PM

Shammy wrote: »

Put your seach on locale only and that will stop you jumping into canadian rooms , also make sure your nat is set to open

Seriously !!

Sound ill change those settings! am i the only one who thinks cod3 was the best? kar 98, class maps, probably the best online community ive ever played with, no perks, TANKS, better graphics then blops...

the only gay thing was the support gun.

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