anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

cornerboy wrote: »

My abiding memory of sinn fein was the tv pictures from the early 80's where 2 out of uniform british soldiers drove into an IRA funeral in belfast. They were attacked by the mourners, loaded into a taxi and driven to Casement Park where they were stripped naked and beaten to death.

My generation is not ready to vote SF at least not with Adams at the helm. A start for the shinners would be to send Gurry to his holiday home in donegal and let him retire on his northern bank pension.

I think you would need to know all the facts of why the two British Soldiers were in west belfast on such a day. If memory serves me right the funerals were not IRA funerals. They were funerals of people murdered by Michael Stone. The BRitish Army were never allowed into west Belfast when out of uniform so they knew what they were doing. They were spying and if you play that game in a war you pay the price. Sounds cold I know but it was a war.
you should read up on a Captain Robert Nairac to understand how the Brits worked in NI or even read about the Littlejohn Brothers.
The above is in no way to be taken as a rebuke as I appreciate that the younger generation may not be fully aware of all the facts of the troubles.
I am not (never was and never will be) a SF supporter but I know all too well what the people of NI went through in the troubles and I have no sorrow for any British Solider who was invovled.

Adrian009 wrote: »

I'm not denying their legitimacy. I want them inside the democratic process, which has been available to them for decades.

Other northern parties are not running for the Dail. Members of Sinn Fein are, so their support of an organisation that admits killing thousands of Irish people cuts right to the credibility of their candidates.

I'm an ordinary joe soap. I don't need you to tell me who represents me.

inside the democratic process is where they are trying to be but a lot of people in this country refuse to accept that including many on this forum, when you say 'decades' what do people want to say, that its too late, sorry but you should of done things by the ballot years ago. thats bull**** if they are trying to 'do the right thing' and go about they're means in a peaceful and political way why should they not be given the chance to do that instead of dragging up all sorts of **** from the past. are people never going to use banks again, are people going to say in 10, 20 years dont vote fianna fail remember what they did (and im not comparing what either party did or didnt do im just talking principle) of course they wont. Sinn Fein should be given every chance to gain election on current merits as should any other party not what happened years ago. and as for telling you -adrian 009- who represents you do you really think the fg'rs or ff'rs give a **** about the working class not unless its to get a few photographs before election time, im one of the working class and i certainly never see them helping in my community but i do see the local SF lads doing their bit and it has to be said some of the independants.

wee truck big driver wrote: »

the people who joined and fought for the ira done so in the knowledge that they would most lightly spend time in jail, quiet possibly die and at best constantly be open to assault and torture by the british and irish( i use the word lightly) security forces. i think its called bravery. on the other side you had young scumbags grrowing up in england who joined the army to stay out of jail and get paid for basically doing what they loved best that was to be bully boys and the beauty of it was you could carry this out even commit murder and not expect as much as a slap on the wrists. its all well and good for people in the south who created the problem and then turned there backs on their fellow irish men and women to winge and cry about sinn fein . the irish and british goverment spent years and billions fighting a propaganda war against republicans. i for one can say iam proud of the men and women who fought for my country

How did the people in the south create the problem? Are you equally proud of them targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure?

wee truck big driver wrote: »

let me see now ireland was a 32 county island with a catholic majority under british rule. there was an ongoing struggle, in a war the one accepted ideology is divide and conquer thats what the irish let the british do when they agreed to partition. to make it even worse they agreed to a divide which would see the irish people who had the legitimate claim to the six counties be a minority in there own country and then ignored the years of injustice they suffered at the hands of the unionists. as i stated iam proud of the actions taken by the brave men and women of the ira actions which would result in the british goverment agreeing to withdraw from the north of ireland. if they where planting bombs incivilan areas and the british security forces chose to ignore or in some cases send people where the bomb was to try and turn the irish people against the ira well its up to each indivdual who they want to believe. a bit like when tony blair stated that iraqis had weapons of mass destruction and went in killing innocent men women and children sure they would nt lie would they

I can see from that post that you have a limited knowledge of the history of the partition and the circumstances surrounding that.

SF currently have 25 seats according to the boards.ie election poll. Is this a real possibility, or does it say something about the boards clientelle?

dodgydes wrote: »

SF currently have 25 seats according to the boards.ie election poll. Is this a real possibility, or does it say something about the boards clientelle?

unfortunately, boards.ie only represents certain demographics

danbohan wrote: »

perhaps you should do some research into why those same leaders had to join the IRA in the first place and your countrys tainted history here .

Yes, I would have to agree. They never research the reason "WHY"!!!! 800 long and dreadful years of it.

dodgydes wrote: »

SF currently have 25 seats according to the boards.ie election poll. Is this a real possibility, or does it say something about the boards clientelle?

It says there are a lot of new registrations on boards.ie that are 100% behind Sinn Fein. I'm sure it's 100% random though.