anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

sharkie66 · 18-02-2011 01:20AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

sure,sf ,please dont make me laugh more,sf party should be called dream party as there policy's and solution are from dreamland :D

Dream ticket you mean! Sinn Fein will build on the dreams that our founding fathers put forward to bring about the Republic which FF and FG destroyed over the last 90 odd years.

Bring it on!

namloc1980 · 18-02-2011 01:26AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Dream ticket you mean! Sinn Fein will build on the dreams that our founding fathers put forward to bring about the Republic which FF and FG destroyed over the last 90 odd years.

Bring it on!

Have you actually read any of your heroes policy proposals by any chance? What about their proposal to give members of a foreign parliament the right to have an input into drafting a new constitution for this state? Or what about their desire to give automatic membership in our Dáil to members of a foreign parliament? Or what do you think of their plan to take €7bn from the NPRF when there is only €4.9bn left in it?

crebel81 · 18-02-2011 01:27AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

wont be answered,as sf supporters dont know like the party

Who will you be voting for?

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 01:28AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Dream ticket you mean! Sinn Fein will build on the dreams that our founding fathers put forward to bring about the Republic which FF and FG destroyed over the last 90 odd years.

Bring it on!

no i mean dream party with dream policys which look like there kids wrote for sf

sharkie66 · 18-02-2011 01:29AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

i think sf supporters dont really know other party policys ,as can be seen :rolleyes:

With respect, what you think really counts for nothing as the facts speak for themselves. Sinn Fein will increase its seats and put manners on the EU/IMF agents in our country.

Wait and see. They tried to take our voice away with section 31 and now look who is on the way up? Yep, Sinn Fein the Party of the People not the fuddermucker FF/Wnaker Banker and FG thieves.

Could be ten seats yet!!! Bring it on.................!:eek:

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 01:29AM

crebel81 wrote: »

Who will you be voting for?

havent decided yet bit not sf thats for sure and you

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 01:32AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

With respect, what you think really counts for nothing as the facts speak for themselves. Sinn Fein will increase its seats and put manners on the EU/IMF agents in our country.

Wait and see. They tried to take our voice away with section 31 and now look who is on the way up? Yep, Sinn Fein the Party of the People not the fuddermucker FF/Wnaker Banker and FG thieves.

Could be ten seats yet!!! Bring it on.................!:eek:

sf need too have manners before hand which they dont ,not even working policys which neither sf or there supporters can,was sereral questions asked by non sf supporters and others and sf or supporters didnt answer like there leader who didnt know the vat rate in ireland when asked, sf are dreamers

sharkie66 · 18-02-2011 01:33AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

no i mean dream party with dream policys which look like there kids wrote for sf

Their Kids have more savvy than the so called Adults in the thieving fg/ff fuddermucker mafia.

The honeymoon phase will be very short and soon the people will see through FG and send them packing.

Sinn Fein will be waiting in the long grass....

Yeah..looking good!

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 01:35AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Their Kids have more savvy than the so called Adults in the thieving fg/ff fuddermucker mafia.

The honeymoon phase will be very short and soon the people will see through FG and send them packing.

Sinn Fein will be waiting in the long grass....

Yeah..looking good!

more sf bull,still waitng for sf supporters too answer question asked instead of this old bull talk from sf which no one cares about
sf party the dreamers party

crebel81 · 18-02-2011 01:35AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

havent decided yet bit not sf thats for sure and you

Ah I think u are sure

Im psychic u see....

well u see Keltic, Im looking for change and I mean change...

Change is not replacing a bunch of cronies with another bunch of wannabe cronies...

Im looking for a party who will represent all parts of society, not just the elite...

And u can play down SF policies all u like, FF have failed with their promises and lets just see how FGs policies pan out..

Should make for interest reading when our grandkids are studying irish(possibly german) history textbooks in years to come...:D

namloc1980 · 18-02-2011 01:36AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Their Kids have more savvy than the so called Adults in the thieving fg/ff fuddermucker mafia.

The honeymoon phase will be very short and soon the people will see through FG and send them packing.

Sinn Fein will be waiting in the long grass....

Yeah..looking good!

Any chance you could discuss their policies or is it just all about the populism and protest vote?

sharkie66 · 18-02-2011 01:36AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

sf need too have manners before hand which they dont ,not even working policys which neither sf or there supporters can,was sereral questions asked by non sf supporters and others and sf or supporters didnt answer like there leader who didnt know the vat rate in ireland when asked, sf are dreamers

If I had to make a choice between THIEVES and Dreamers I think I'd go with the dreamer dream tickets for a fairer and equal Ireland.

Bring it on

namloc1980 · 18-02-2011 01:37AM

crebel81 wrote: »

Ah I think u are sure

Im psychic u see....

well u see Keltic, Im looking for change and I mean change...

Change is not replacing a bunch of cronies with another bunch of wannabe cronies...

Im looking for a party who will represent all parts of society, not just the elite...

And u can play down SF policies all u like, FF have failed with their promises and lets just see how FGs policies pan out..

Should make for interest reading when our grandkids are studying irish(possibly german) history textbooks in years to come...:D

Oh dear....can any SF supporters simply discuss their party's policies without resorting to populist propaganda?

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 01:44AM

crebel81 wrote: »

Ah I think u are sure

Im psychic u see....

well u see Keltic, Im looking for change and I mean change...

Change is not replacing a bunch of cronies with another bunch of wannabe cronies...

Im looking for a party who will represent all parts of society, not just the elite...

And u can play down SF policies all u like, FF have failed with their promises and lets just see how FGs policies pan out..

Should make for interest reading when our grandkids are studying irish(possibly german) history textbooks in years to come...:D

if you know who i vote for,then you know more than me as i dont,choices are poor but one thing for sure
i dont trust sf or anyone who connected too them
they dont have a policy or policys which help ireland
they dont have a real solution that helps the country ,just all words
dont like there politics or so called clouded beleifs
few questions where asked here by other posters and no sf party rep or sf supporter answered these questions as there leader didnt when in last debate
in short,wont be voting for any sf people as they are no good for ireland and its people and most importanly my family and there future

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 01:45AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Oh dear....can any SF supporters simply discuss their party's policies without resorting to populist propaganda?

they wont,they dont know how too like there leader

sharkie66 · 18-02-2011 01:47AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Any chance you could discuss their policies or is it just all about the populism and protest vote?

Yes! I wouldn't like to keep you in suspense....... but at he moment I just want to take the discussion along at my own pace.

There isn't a rule against that ,is there?

Patience is a virtue and if it is one thing we have it is just that!

not long ago a lot of people thought nothing wrong by silencing SF with the anti democratic section 31 act which banned all SF representatives from airing their views on the radio or TV.

Bring it on...yeah

namloc1980 · 18-02-2011 01:49AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Yes! I wouldn't like to keep you in suspense....... but at he moment I just want to take the discussion along at my own pace. There isn't a rule against that ,is there?

Patience is a virtue and if it is one thing we have it is just that!

not long ago a lot of people thought nothing wrong by silencing SF with the anti democratic section 31 act which banned all SF representatives from airing their views on the radio or TV.

Bring it on...yeah

So you can't discuss their policies? That's cool. Probably because their policies are a load of nonsense and you can't defend them.

sharkie66 · 18-02-2011 01:52AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

if you know who i vote for,then you know more than me as i dont,choices are poor but one thing for sure
i dont trust sf or anyone who connected too them
they dont have a policy or policys which help ireland
they dont have a real solution that helps the country ,just all words
dont like there politics or so called clouded beleifs
few questions where asked here by other posters and no sf party rep or sf supporter answered these questions as there leader didnt when in last debate
in short,wont be voting for any sf people as they are no good for ireland and its people and most importanly my family and there future

Celiticy,
your words above could easily describe fg and ff as much as SF. :rolleyes:

I haven't heard anything that sets my pulse racing from the thieving FG and FF

Bring it on...SF to do very very well!

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 01:55AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Celiticy,
your words above could easily describe fg and ff as much as SF. :rolleyes:

I haven't heard anything that sets my pulse racing from the thieving FG and FF

Bring it on...SF to do very very well!

not really,just dream party sf
as sf will never see power but sf can dream doe

sharkie66 · 18-02-2011 02:00AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

So you can't discuss their policies? That's cool. Probably because their policies are a load of nonsense and you can't defend them.

No you got it wrong manpy! I can discuss the policies but I do have the right to choose with who I discuss those policies with! Sorry but something tells me that if I discuss the excellent SF policies with you I might be wasting my breath and time as it would appear that you have already made up your mind what way you are going to vote. I just don't see the point in trying to convince you to listen to our economic policies. Talking to walls comes to mind!

All I can do is try and get you to vote for SF but it might be a lost cause!

Correct me if I am wrong,
And Bring it on!

namloc1980 · 18-02-2011 02:06AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

No you got it wrong manpy! I can discuss the policies but I do have the right to choose with who I discuss those policies with! Sorry but something tells me that if I discuss the excellent SF policies with you I might be wasting my breath and time as it would appear that you have already made up your mind what way you are going to vote. I just don't see the point in trying to convince you to listen to our economic policies. Talking to walls comes to mind!

All I can do is try and get you to vote for SF but it might be a lost cause!

Correct me if I am wrong,
And Bring it on!

If you can show me beyond a doubt that SF can get rid of the IMF, borrow elsewhere at less than the IMF rate, default on the guarantee, reverse all the recent welfare cuts, get rid of the USC, create 100,000+ new jobs by taking €7bn from the NPRF which only has €4.9bn in it and get rid of the deficit then I would vote for SF in a heartbeat.

Hannibal · 18-02-2011 02:10AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Have you actually read any of your heroes policy proposals by any chance? What about their proposal to give members of a foreign parliament the right to have an input into drafting a new constitution for this state? Or what about their desire to give automatic membership in our Dáil to members of a foreign parliament?

What foreign parliament is this you speak of?
and are members of this foreign parliament who were born on this island entitled to an Irish passport under the GFA by any chance?
And if so explain to me how are they foreign.
FF and FG criticise Gerry Adams for "coming down here" yet do they realise that when theyve to go form a government theyve to go to our president who is Belfast and also came "down here". Its blatant hypocricsy.

namloc1980 · 18-02-2011 02:13AM

Dotsey wrote: »

What foreign parliament is this you speak of?
and are members of this foreign parliament who were born on this island entitled to an Irish passport under the GFA by any chance?
And if so explain to me how are they foreign.
FF and FG criticise Gerry Adams for "coming down here" yet do they realise that when theyve to go form a government theyve to go to our president who is Belfast and also came "down here". Its blatant hypocricsy.

The last time I checked Northern Ireland is part of a separate sovereign state to this state or maybe you could enlighten me?? Do you think it's right and democratic that individuals unelected by the people of this state should get automatic membership of our parliament?

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 02:22AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

The last time I checked Northern Ireland is part of a separate sovereign state to this state or maybe you could enlighten me?? Do you think it's right and democratic that individuals unelected by the people of this state should get automatic membership of our parliament?

isnt gerry adams a elected member of the British parliament ?

Hannibal · 18-02-2011 02:24AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

The last time I checked Northern Ireland is part of a separate sovereign state to this state or maybe you could enlighten me?? Do you think it's right and democratic that individuals unelected by the people of this state should get automatic membership of our parliament?

What we want is for everyone on the island to be entitled to vote in a presidential election as the President represents the island as a whole.
Under the GFA everyone has the right to self determination, so to your statement those Irishmen north of the border are not foreign in any way.
MP's from the north should be accorded membership of the Dail with speaking and consultive rights.

Hannibal · 18-02-2011 02:26AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

isnt gerry adams a elected member of the British parliament ?

He was until a few weeks ago when he resigned his seat in order to run for the Dail.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 02:27AM

Dotsey wrote: »

What we want is for everyone on the island to be entitled to vote in a presidential election as the President represents the island as a whole.
Under the GFA everyone has the right to self determination, so to your statement those Irishmen north of the border are not foreign in any way.
MP's from the north should be accorded membership of the Dail with speaking and consultive rights.

north is part of uk , and as members of uk parliament shouldn't be allow membership of dail that includes all uk parliament members which same are sf party members

KELTICKNIGHTT · 18-02-2011 02:28AM

Dotsey wrote: »

He was until a few weeks ago when he resigned his seat in order to run for the Dail.

then his entitled too run in election her but not id a member of uk parliament

namloc1980 · 18-02-2011 02:29AM

Dotsey wrote: »

What we want is for everyone on the island to be entitled to vote in a presidential election as the President represents the island as a whole.
Under the GFA everyone has the right to self determination, so to your statement those Irishmen north of the border are not foreign in any way.
MP's from the north should be accorded membership of the Dail with speaking and consultive rights.

Why should our Dáil have members unelected by the people of this state? Is this not inherently undemocratic? If you want to be a member of the Dáil then you should have to stand for election in the jurisdiction covered by the Dáil. Simple as.

18-02-2011 10:15AM

sharkie66 wrote: »

No you got it wrong manpy! I can discuss the policies but I do have the right to choose with who I discuss those policies with! Sorry but something tells me that if I discuss the excellent SF policies with you I might be wasting my breath and time as it would appear that you have already made up your mind what way you are going to vote. I just don't see the point in trying to convince you to listen to our economic policies. Talking to walls comes to mind!

All I can do is try and get you to vote for SF but it might be a lost cause!

Correct me if I am wrong,
And Bring it on!

Translation.
You only want to soapbox policies and not deal with the holes in the plans to finance them.
I see.

anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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