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What are the odds of winning the lotto twice?

  • 15-02-2011 07:06PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭


    Just heard on newstalk that some lucky dub had picked up a cool half mil after winning 2.5mill a few years ago. I can't help but feel a little bitter... :(

    What are the odds of this?!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    remote

    8145060 to 1 to do it once.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Jimmy the Wheel


    The odds of winning it once, multiplied by two, minus one.


    (i think)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Apparently not that remote. I recall reading somewhere before that you've a slightly higher chance of winning the lotto if you've won it before. I know someone who won it twice myself. Not huge money, but a couple of 100 thou(I know that's loads, but not, "Im buying a small island in the far east, building my own rockets and if that cnut Bond shows up, I'm shooting him in the face on sight" money)

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭J K


    8145060 x 8145060

    66342002403600 to one.



    Actually the question makes no sense, how many draws are entered, how many lines are bought, over what period of time etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭tommy21


    J K wrote: »
    8145060 x 8145060

    66342002403600 to one.



    Actually the question makes no sense, how many draws are entered, how many lines are bought, over what period of time etc

    True.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I heard that he won €2.3 million the first time round and €0.5 million this time.

    It'd be funny if he spent the entire €2.3 million on lottery tickets to get the second win.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭J K


    A billion here, a billion there. Pretty soon your talking real money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sandmanporto


    tommy21 wrote: »
    Just heard on newstalk that some lucky dub had picked up a cool half mil after winning 2.5mill a few years ago. I can't help but feel a little bitter... :(

    What are the odds of this?!


    It could be YOU!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    if your not in you cant win :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    8,145,060 to one


    Each event is independent of the other.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭J K


    maglite wrote: »

    Each event is independent of the other.

    They are not necessarily independent. You can look at a sequence of events and calculate the probability of a particular outcome.

    If the question were - a person plays for ten weeks. 10 draws. They buy one line in each draw. At the end of the 10 draws what are the odds that the person has won two jackpots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Jimmy the Wheel


    maglite wrote: »
    8,145,060 to one


    Each event is independent of the other.

    But the odds are accumulated, in figuring if the same person can do it twice.


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A guy who used to work in my place won it twice. And he was super rich to begin with :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,530 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    J K wrote: »
    8145060 x 8145060

    66342002403600 to one.



    Actually the question makes no sense, how many draws are entered, how many lines are bought, over what period of time etc

    Lets see if I can remember my leaving cert probablity..

    As every line he buys increases his odds of winning,

    It's 66342002403600 divided by the number of entries bought in total.

    Say he bought 1,000 lines in his years of playing the lotto, it's 1 in 66,342,002,403.6/1 For one person or just over sixty billion to one.

    That's just the odds for an individual. As about a million people play the lotto, the odds of this ever happening reduces to about 60 thousand to one.

    Still impressively rare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭fabbydabby


    Saying the odds are x to one is kinda misleading since this format does not represent a probability. Odds of two to one equals a probability of 1/3.

    Also, the statement that they are independant events isn't strictly true. Asking the odds of winning it twice means they are not. The odds of winning it twice are simply the odds of winning it once, squared.

    But if you asked the question, what are the odds of winning the lotto, having won it already, then of course the events are independant and the odds are the same.

    But as JK said it's a bollcks question with no clear answer... theres no mention of lotto plus, or matching five and the bonus, or mutiple lines etc

    the lotto is a sh!t investment anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Crasp


    when you come up with an anwser, I want to use that figure as my lotto numbers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭double GG


    It'll never happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    What are the odds of not winning twice?

    I've only played the once and I'll be damned if I'll buy another ticket if I'm not going to win again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭xoxyx


    The odds of winning the Lotto twice are the same as winning the Lotto once.

    The chances of a certain set of numbers coming up is the same every week. The fact of a person having those numbers doesn't come into it!

    Same way as the odds of throwing a red number 3 at roulette once, doesn't affect the odds of that same number coming up again on the next throw.

    It's a random occurrence every time. Past plays don't come into it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    Well... I plan on winning the Euromillions this Friday.

    The odds are: Either I will or I won't.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭u140acro3xs7dm


    If you won 2.5 mil would you keep doing the lotto? sounds like a scabby fúck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Aodan83


    Well if you can do it once, you can do it again, right?
    The odds don't change though, the draws are all mutually exclusive, so one outcome will have no effect on the others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    If you won 2.5 mil would you keep doing the lotto? sounds like a scabby fúck

    Ooooh, someone has never won the Lotto.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    xoxyx wrote: »
    The odds of winning the Lotto twice are the same as winning the Lotto once.
    !
    by that logic i have the same chance of winning every single lottery ever as 1 lotto draw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,293 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    It could be YOU!!!

    Just checked, it wasn't. Liar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    xoxyx wrote: »
    The odds of winning the Lotto twice are the same as winning the Lotto once.

    The chances of a certain set of numbers coming up is the same every week. The fact of a person having those numbers doesn't come into it!

    Same way as the odds of throwing a red number 3 at roulette once, doesn't affect the odds of that same number coming up again on the next throw.

    It's a random occurrence every time. Past plays don't come into it!

    This.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    adamski8 wrote: »
    by that logic i have the same chance of winning every single lottery ever as 1 lotto draw

    You do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    adamski8 wrote: »
    by that logic i have the same chance of winning every single lottery ever as 1 lotto draw

    Yep, you do.

    The lottery doesn't magically remember who won and who didn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Abelloid


    xoxyx wrote: »
    The odds of winning the Lotto twice are the same as winning the Lotto once.

    The chances of a certain set of numbers coming up is the same every week. The fact of a person having those numbers doesn't come into it!

    Same way as the odds of throwing a red number 3 at roulette once, doesn't affect the odds of that same number coming up again on the next throw.

    It's a random occurrence every time. Past plays don't come into it!

    That's what I would have thought too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭sparkthatbled


    I remember hearing what might have been one of those 'friend of a friend told me' stories with no substance. It went that a doctor living in Donnybrook who entered the lottery for the hell of it won the jackpot twice (it being the days when the jackpot was rarely above 2mil). Dunno if it's true but it sure angries up the blood when you're paying off a €500 credit card bill in instalments!


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