€850 dole a week+free legal aid

Cybertron85 · 13-02-2011 01:22PM

As this fella probably did at some point, I'm going to have a wild stab in the dark and say he's a traveller.

Am I wrong?

Dempo1 · 13-02-2011 01:26PM

Cybertron85 wrote: »

As this fella probably did at some point, I'm going to have a wild stab in the dark and say he's a traveller.

Am I wrong?

Horses are an expensive commodity as is running 4 wheel drives:D

sollar · 13-02-2011 01:27PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

I am not defending this scumbag but has predicted the same old mantra about the joys and perks of being on the dole were inevitable because of this article.

Maybe thats because our social welfare system is too full of joys and perks

Yes people do get their driving test paid for i know one who has got it.

€20 fuel should come out of their dole

IMO the medical card should not be totally free either, they should have to pay €5 per doctor visit.

Clothing and footwear is fine

The dole should be cut for everyone though it is still stupidly high imo.

bmarley · 13-02-2011 01:29PM

Certainly now an isolated case. Unfortunately, this country is full of people who have known how to screw our systems of years. Then we talk about child poverty etc...people are getting well paid by our government for doing nothing and often this money is not spent appropriately. I think it is time to stop handing out money like that...food and clothing vouchers is the way forward for the likes of him.

wobzilla1 · 13-02-2011 01:30PM

Why don't we have any of the political parties pushing massive reform of social welfare on thier agendas. They'd get my vote straight away.
IMO social welfare should be paid in vouchers that can only be used for necessities (no drink, tobacco, holidays, nice clothes, etc).

Cybertron85 · 13-02-2011 01:39PM

PogMoThoin wrote: »

If every conviction resulted in a percentage cut in dole he'd be a nice quiet boy, the only way to hit these types is in their pocket, they have it too easy

It wouldn't, it just wouldn't because he'd start dabbling in more criminal activities to make up for the money lost.

It's a lose/lose situation with these types of people.

sollar · 13-02-2011 01:41PM

Once someone is on the jobseekers for more than 2 years they should be moved on to some other payment like "long term dole payment" or something.

Outside of a resession if your still on the dole after 2 years then your just a layabout.

sligopark · 13-02-2011 01:43PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

Yes he ****ing well is! and a disgusting exception at that:mad:

exception my hole

desaparecidos · 13-02-2011 02:02PM

jeepers101 wrote: »

It takes the tax of seven people on the average industrial wage to pay the social welfare costs of this man

And how many more to pay his legal fee's?

Any how many more have directly suffered from any one of his 56 previous convictions, or the crimes where he wasn't caught and convicted?

kelle · 13-02-2011 02:06PM

realies wrote: »

I know this is a bit of topic, but were do you get the idea that people in them prisons dont reoffend, With all the killings and rapes & squalor etc etc in the prisons of the middle east and asia they are still full everyday after everyday,so its a bit of a myth to think havent harder prisons make any difference.

OK maybe not, but watching those programmes scared the bejaysis out of me :eek:

Mardy Bum · 13-02-2011 02:17PM

Cybertron85 wrote: »

As this fella probably did at some point, I'm going to have a wild stab in the dark and say he's a traveller.

Am I wrong?

McDonagh from Galway plus long term dole with numerous convictions leads me to believe you may be correct.

anti-venom · 13-02-2011 02:21PM

whiteonion wrote: »

Ireland as a society would benefit from this man being shot.
I see no reason why he should be allowed to live.

He's probably a great dad and his brood of eight offspring will undoubtedly never emulate their dad in his wayward ways. Society will benefit some day from maintaining this man and his family.

Even though I work hard for little reward and get screwed by the government for my efforts, I know my U.S.C. payments are being well spent.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 13-02-2011 02:23PM

'Two, one two... Padraig Nally - paging Padraig Nally... will mister Nally please reload there's a shoot'n to be done.

€44,000 a year taxi free!.. Now that really wobbles my man boobs, lecherous bollox.

sam34 · 13-02-2011 02:34PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

yes fuel allowance is available for winter months, guess what, its €20 per week, try and heat any home on that for ****s sake, a bottle of gas is retailing at €31.85 a bag of coal anything up to €10 per bag, lets get real.

i live in a 3 bedroom house with gas fired central heating.

my gas bills for the months october to january (covering the EXTREME cold snap, during which i didnt spare the gas, and for a while left it on 24/7) came to just under €300.

€300 in 4 months would be covered by €20 a week allowance.

twinQuins · 13-02-2011 03:01PM

sligopark wrote: »

exception my hole

Do you have evidence that says he's not?

Yakult · 13-02-2011 03:10PM

How the fcuk is he getting 850 a week?!!

Dempo1 · 13-02-2011 03:19PM

sollar wrote: »

Maybe thats because our social welfare system is too full of joys and perks

Yes people do get their driving test paid for i know one who has got it.

€20 fuel should come out of their dole

IMO the medical card should not be totally free either, they should have to pay €5 per doctor visit.

Clothing and footwear is fine

The dole should be cut for everyone though it is still stupidly high imo.

Clearly your in gainful employment and i am delighted for you, I again reiterate there is absolutely no benefit that pays anything towards a driving test, its ludicrous to suggest this, perhaps you could supply evidence. The medical card as explained is available to everyone under a certain income threshold, it is grossly unfair to suggest only those on the dole are entitled to it. Not sure what the weather in sligo was for the winter but how the **** do you explain how anyone could afford to heat an average home out of basic social welfare entitlements, Jesus a 500 litre of oil was averaging €400 and with an average per person payment of €188 per week, i doubt very much they could afford to heat their accommodation without €20.

I am not disputing abuses in the system and yes the larger the family, kids, rented accommodation etc the more the entitlements but the system is means tested. I knew this article would provoke narrow minded and ill informed opinion on the current social welfare system.

Eric Cartman · 13-02-2011 03:20PM

social welfare needs to change in Ireland, the dole office should only open at the crack of dawn for 30 minutes or something and you shold have to fight and try for weeks and months to get it , also should be reduced, thats a rediculous amount , the dole is for surviving , not living, it shouldnt be comfortable to be on the dole

Dempo1 · 13-02-2011 03:27PM

Yakult wrote: »

How the fcuk is he getting 850 a week?!!

I presume this chap is married, has numerous children, get either rent allowance of social housing, is in receipt of children's allowance, god knows he is probably even getting some disability allowance. Its a shame the Journalist did not research and properly document what the social welfare payments were, instead we now have the nation assuming living on social welfare is great gas all together, it may have also curtailed some of the nonsense on this thread. This example is certainly not atypical of what is happening in the real world of living on social welfare, those begrudgers would be advised for example to talk to any previously self employed person, inquiring of what they are entitled too, actually let me save them the trouble , NOTHING!

Dempo1 · 13-02-2011 03:29PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

social welfare needs to change in Ireland, the dole office should only open at the crack of dawn for 30 minutes or something and you shold have to fight and try for weeks and months to get it , also should be reduced, thats a rediculous amount , the dole is for surviving , not living, it shouldnt be comfortable to be on the dole

Cybertron85 · 13-02-2011 03:34PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

social welfare needs to change in Ireland, the dole office should only open at the crack of dawn for 30 minutes or something and you shold have to fight and try for weeks and months to get it , also should be reduced, thats a rediculous amount , the dole is for surviving , not living, it shouldnt be comfortable to be on the dole

What if we drop everyone who lost their jobs into a colosseum and have them fight to the death gladiator style with the winner getting his dole.

We all know average people are responsible for the economy at large.

Minstrel27 · 13-02-2011 03:35PM

whiteonion wrote: »

Why should he be allowed to live so that he can make life miserable for other people in his community?

What crimes warrant the death penalty in your idea of utopia?

Mike 1972 · 13-02-2011 03:44PM

Aryanna Odd Mumps wrote: »

McDonagh has 56 previous convictions, eight of which were notched up in the last two years, including a firearms offence for which he served three months in 2008. He received a further seven-month jail sentence later that year for public order offences.
On this occasion he received a five-month prison sentence and a five-year ban for driving without insurance while he was already disqualified from driving.!.

And legal aid is the biggest issue here ?

sdanseo · 13-02-2011 03:51PM

Why must it always be the scum who commit all the crime who get all my hard-earned tax money? Some of them probably haven't worked a day in their bloody life.

We need to be locking more of these cúnts up and for longer, act as some deterrent not to act the ****** and then maybe they'll appreciate their state benefits.

snubbleste · 13-02-2011 03:57PM

sdonn wrote: »

Why must it always be the scum who commit all the crime who get all my hard-earned tax money? Some of them probably haven't worked a day in their bloody life.

We need to be locking more of these cúnts up and for longer, act as some deterrent not to act the ****** and then maybe they'll appreciate their state benefits.

The cost of keeping an inmate in prison in 2009 was €77,222 per person..or €1485 per week.

doolox · 13-02-2011 03:59PM

There should be direct independent provision made for the care of the children and spouse of such a man. I hope he isn't getting the money directly from the Social Welfare. How can it be guaranteed that he will provide adequately for his dependents?????

It should be possible to give separate payment to the wife, if she is of reasonably good character, for herself and the children.

It should be possible for the state to intervene in the bringing up of these children in the absence of a reasonably good male role model.

Only trouble is that in the past the State has shown itself lamentably deficient in caring for children and ensuring their welfare. Perhaps a criminal makes a better parent than our state has been in the past.

Huge questions need to be asked about the present setup.

Pablo_ · 13-02-2011 04:07PM

...and we are coming back to real conversation and away from all the 'burn the dole scum' soundbytes...

whiteonion · 13-02-2011 04:23PM

Minstrel27 wrote: »

What crimes warrant the death penalty in your idea of utopia?

Stealing a car, robbing people, assaulting people, breaking and entering, etc.

ToniTuddle · 13-02-2011 04:26PM

snubbleste wrote: »

The cost of keeping an inmate in prison in 2009 was €77,222 per person..or €1485 per week.

This is something I seriously don't understand......:mad:

Ridiculous!

snubbleste · 13-02-2011 04:32PM

ToniTuddle wrote: »

This is something I seriously don't understand......:mad:
Ridiculous!

Well it includes the cost of staff, meals, electricty, warmth, roof....it is calculating the amount spent on a prison that year and dividing it by the number of inmates in that jail on a certain day. It is an average, a maximum security prison will be more expensive than an open prison.

€850 dole a week+free legal aid

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