anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

xsao · 12-02-2011 10:56PM

A vote for Sinn Fein is a wasted vote at present.
Their policy is to make everyone poor by raiding the pension fund and then there will be no money to pay the pensions.
Wait until they come up with realistic economie policies.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 10:57PM

xsao wrote: »

A vote for Sinn Fein is a wasted vote at present.
Their policy is to make everyone poor by raiding the pension fund and then there will be no money to pay the pensions.
Wait until they come up with realistic economie policies.

totaly agree

Augmerson · 12-02-2011 10:57PM

Yeah putting my vote towards Sinn Fein, few mates are doing the same, other are going for Labour I think.

danbohan · 12-02-2011 10:58PM

xsao wrote: »

A vote for Sinn Fein is a wasted vote at present.
Their policy is to make everyone poor by raiding the pension fund and then there will be no money to pay the pensions.
Wait until they come up with realistic economie policies.

Wait until they come up with realistic economie policies

you mean ones like we have had for last few years i suppose !

SafeSurfer · 12-02-2011 11:10PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Your lack of knowledge on this subject is quite frankly laughable. IRA are still around selling drugs? The provisionals are gone, and the republican movement has always been against drugs, and still is.

What do you think Colombian Narco rebel group FARC was going to pay these boys with? Coffee beans?

wee truck big driver · 12-02-2011 11:14PM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

i guess best place you might have seen it is tv,for me, i know differently ,but not going too state on public forum,

the person from whom he buys his drugs threaten to kneecap him if he didnt pay (so he assumed he was a republican )

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 11:15PM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

the person from whom he buys his drugs threaten to kneecap him if he didnt pay (so he assumed he was a republican )

in some cases,its not assumed,but well know

Shulgin · 12-02-2011 11:15PM

FG/FF are the ones with the one absolute dead end policy of keeping sovereign debt and gamblers debts together and completely destroying this country in the process, starting with years of savage cuts.

Leading economists say we should default, NOW, not 2 years down the road when we can't repay this loan and the extortionate interest rate, then the REAL sh1t will hit the fan

Defaulting in a few years will be far worse than defaulting now.

That is why i am voting SF/ULA. I have never voted for them before, but I sure as hell will this time.

Fine gael are deluded, and what is worse is the population seem to being buying their fairytales, and the media are pimping them constantly. They will be continuing this huge money/debt ponzi scheme robbery for another few years until in the end we can kiss Ireland goodbye when we are really screwed. I honestly can't believe people are buying their rubbish.

Our number one priority right now should be to keep sovereign and speculators debt separate!

LordSutch · 12-02-2011 11:16PM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

generally dont do any betting, but sinn fein making bigg gains in the election would be a safe bet for those who like a punt

Dropping like a stone in tomorrows RedC poll :rolleyes:

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 11:18PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

So in other words you are talking sh!te and wont back it up, away with ye!

tone,if you where clever,you might know why,but shows differently
if you told things you not too know and asked not too,then you dont,so maybe wise up
but then as your a sf supporter

Wolfe Tone · 12-02-2011 11:18PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Dropping like a stone in tomorrows RedC poll :rolleyes:

You gotta make a splash to make waves!

12-02-2011 11:28PM

A: Personal insults are banned on this forum

B: If asked for proof of a claim, please provide evidence or rescind your claim.

SafeSurfer · 12-02-2011 11:28PM

caseyann wrote: »

Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.[1] No universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition of terrorism currently exists.[2][3] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or ideological goal, deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians), and are committed by non-government agencies.

Some definitions also include acts of unlawful violence and war. The history of terrorist organizations suggests that they do not select terrorism for its political effectiveness.[4] Individual terrorists tend to be motivated more by a desire for social solidarity with other members of their organization than by political platforms or strategic objectives, which are often murky and undefined.[4]

The word "terrorism" is politically and emotionally charged,[5] and this greatly compounds the difficulty of providing a precise definition. Studies have found over 100 definitions of “terrorism”.[6][7] The concept of terrorism may itself be controversial as it is often used by state authorities to delegitimize political or other opponents

Funny isnt it only terrorism when someone tags it terrorism.
The British terrorized the Irish and were perpetrated for a religious, political goal for decades and they werent terrorists because their government saw it as fit and just.Also they are guilty ofEthnic terrorism or racial terrorism involves frequent attacks of foreign-born immigrants and may qualify as either or both racist or ethnist, xenophobic. Notable examples include Neo-Nazi groups, but most who engage in violence for ethnic or racial causes qualify.
ah double standards got to love them.

I think that double standards is to portray the killings carried out by the IRA as the heroic defence of a community while portraying the killings carried out by the RUC/British army/UVF etc as brutal oppression. If you compare the actions of the security forces with those of the IRA then its fair to hold them up to equal degrees of scrutiny.

We have had an apology for the massacre on Bloody Sunday of totally innocent civilians by the British Prime Minister.
Could we expect an apology from the IRA volunteer couple, since married with a family who massacred totally innocent civilians in the Enniskillen Remberence Day bomb?
Probably not. So talk not of double standards.

wee truck big driver · 12-02-2011 11:31PM

xsao wrote: »

A vote for Sinn Fein is a wasted vote at present.
Their policy is to make everyone poor by raiding the pension fund and then there will be no money to pay the pensions.
Wait until they come up with realistic economie policies.

and f.f f.g and lab want to give the pension reserve to europe as a downpayment on a loan that we cant afford now that makes sense

wee truck big driver · 12-02-2011 11:35PM

LordSutch wrote: »

I dont think so, have you seen the latest RedC opinion poll?

SF Down -3% (to just 10%), and dropping

i didnt realise we where electing t.ds based on the red c poll............might as well burn my polling card so.......our day is here

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 11:37PM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

and f.f f.g and lab want to give the pension reserve to europe as a downpayment on a loan that we cant afford now that makes sense

sf want too give whole pension fund,what are they going too replace with
how do sf propose too pay the pensioners with,where is sf going too get the 16 billion euros too run the country

LordSutch · 12-02-2011 11:37PM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

.......our day is here

In your dreams baby :rolleyes:

Fine Gael are going to have their day, possibly with Labour or Inde support?

sharkie66 · 12-02-2011 11:39PM

LordSutch wrote: »

I dont think so, have you seen the latest RedC opinion poll?

SF Down -3% (to just 10%), and dropping

Dropping???????

Ahem, but I think 10% is an increase on the last election or have I missed something?

Looking good to at least double their seats in the Dail. Now that is good news...isn't it!
Should be good enough to put manners on the Fuddermucker thieving FF/Fg crowd. Mark my words the public will soon tire of the FG/FF lies so readily spewed out by a completely biased media! And guess who will be waiting to put thing right? Yep You guessed right! Sinn Fein on the way up!

Tiocaigh ar la etc....

Yahoooooooy:)

LordSutch · 12-02-2011 11:41PM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Tiocaigh ar la etc....

Now where have I heard that before? :cool:

wee truck big driver · 12-02-2011 11:44PM

LordSutch wrote: »

In your dreams baby :rolleyes:

Fine Gael are going to have their day, possibly with Labour or Inde support?

i hope your right and when the electorate realise that f.g and lab or even more incompetent than f.f there will be only one option left a majority sinn fein goverment then fast forward ten years a united ireland with sinn fein ruling the 32 counties of ireland with peter robinson leading the opposition for fine gael sure we might even bring back the punt

caseyann · 12-02-2011 11:45PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I think that double standards is to portray the killings carried out by the IRA as the heroic defence of a community while portraying the killings carried out by the RUC/British army/UVF etc as brutal oppression. If you compare the actions of the security forces with those of the IRA then its fair to hold them up to equal degrees of scrutiny.

We have had an apology for the massacre on Bloody Sunday of totally innocent civilians by the British Prime Minister.
Could we expect an apology from the IRA volunteer couple, since married with a family who massacred totally innocent civilians in the Enniskillen Remberence Day bomb?
Probably not. So talk not of double standards.

No No i totally think they should say sorry for killing innocent civilians.I never said they shouldnt.
What i did say is British are terrorists even if they were working on their government behalf.

And being forced and fought to say sorry means diddly squat.

SafeSurfer · 12-02-2011 11:48PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Your lack of knowledge on this subject is quite frankly laughable. IRA are still around selling drugs? The provisionals are gone, and the republican movement has always been against drugs, and still is.

The republican movement has funded itself from drugs, cigarette smuggling and diesel laundering.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/conviction-shows-sf-is-still-linked-to-ira-crime-despite-new-bid-for-power-131919.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_smuggling

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0222/1224264939173.html

http://www.economist.com/node/3536143

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/sf-worker-linked-to-fatal-quinn-beating-1241734.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1509280/IRA-fuel-smuggling-drove-oil-giants-to-abandon-Ulster.html

SafeSurfer · 12-02-2011 11:50PM

caseyann wrote: »

No No i totally think they should say sorry for killing innocent civilians.I never said they shouldnt.
What i did say is British are terrorists even if they were working on their government behalf.

And being forced and fought to say sorry means diddly squat.

So would it be fair to conclude that if the actions of the British were terrorism then the actions of the provisional IRA were also terrorism?

caseyann · 12-02-2011 11:52PM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

i hope your right and when the electorate realise that f.g and lab or even more incompetent than f.f there will be only one option left a majority sinn fein goverment then fast forward ten years a united ireland with sinn fein ruling the 32 counties of ireland with peter robinson leading the opposition for fine gael sure we might even bring back the punt

I heard lab are down again in polls and fianna fail on the radio.
What about a Sinn Féin fianna gael government?

SafeSurfer · 12-02-2011 11:53PM

caseyann wrote: »

I heard lab are down again in polls and fianna fail on the radio.
What about a Sinn Féin fianna gael government?

I think Inda has ruled this out.

LordSutch · 12-02-2011 11:54PM

caseyann wrote: »

What about a Sinn Féin fianna gael government?

A well overdue bit of humour

:pac:

wee truck big driver · 12-02-2011 11:57PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I think Inda has ruled this out.

f.f f.g or labour would do just about anything to get in power and that would include going into power with sinn fein but would be very surprised if f.g and lab couldnt make up the next goverment

sharkie66 · 12-02-2011 11:57PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Now where have I heard that before? :cool:

Do you honestly expect me to answer that question???

In any case you will be hearing a lot more of it very very soon Sutch!

Sinn Fein doubling seats really is a massive improvement on the last election.
You should be happy that democracy is the real winner as when Sinn Fein hound the robbing, thieving, Blueshirt, pro Nazi/Franco party i.e FG, then the Dail will be an interesting place to be!

Can't wait myself!

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 11:58PM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

f.f f.g or labour would do just about anything to get in power and that would include going into power with sinn fein but would be very surprised if f.g and lab couldnt make up the next goverment

all partys have ruled out going into power with sf,that much is very clear,at least in this election

wee truck big driver · 13-02-2011 12:04AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

all partys have ruled out going into power with sf,that much is very clear,at least in this election

did the greens not rule out going into power with f.f at the last election did labour not say the same before making up a goverment with f.f pre election promises or made to be broken.....renegotiate the bailout deal .............just like that.....or with a nordy accent its the way you tell 'em

anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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