anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

KELTICKNIGHTT · 11-02-2011 11:23PM

takun wrote: »

I meant in reply to the question (if it was a question) that I choose to call the IRA what I think they adequately proved to me they were, terrorists.

my mistake

wee truck big driver · 11-02-2011 11:29PM

takun wrote: »

I pick terrorists.

it wasnt multiple choice. i was merely stating the fact that those who joined the ira where brave soliders who put their life on the line for their country

KELTICKNIGHTT · 11-02-2011 11:29PM

caseyann wrote: »

Brave women and men who paved the way for the freedom of this country and gave them the freedom to vote and own land and be Irish who also opened the door for free Irish in the north to vote.
Call my great grand father a terrorist and i will pop you in jaw:D
The irony most of these people relations from the past were IRA sympathizers and also helped and hid and were apart of IRA lol:D

Sinn Féin,the one thing i have an issue with is the pension reserve fund,but i am going to have a talk with someone about that during the week to see what they intend to protect those people with instead.

sf support terrorist,not talking about what happened before that,you well know this,all all people in ireland had family who fought in civil war,but what the IRA terrorists after wards in 70's onwards was terrorism with there political wing sf there too support them ,so please ,spare the excuses, till the day sf dont support IRA etc,then people will consider as a whole maybe a party that will do good ,but right now,they dont,no policy's put forward that work .there votes will only come from there supporters mainly

KELTICKNIGHTT · 11-02-2011 11:31PM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

it wasnt multiple choice. i was merely stating the fact that those who joined the ira where brave soliders who put their life on the line for their country

they didnt after the 70's,was just killing innocent people mostly,

keithm1 · 11-02-2011 11:34PM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

sf support terrorist,not talking about what happened before that,you well know this,all all people in ireland had family who fought in civil war,but what the IRA terrorists after wards in 70's onwards was terrorism with there political wing sf there too support them ,so please ,spare the excuses, till the day sf dont support IRA etc,then people will consider as a whole maybe a party that will do good ,but right now,they dont,no policy's put forward that work .there votes will only come from there supporters mainly

I think you maybe wrong there ,it'll be the first time I'll be voting for them ,I've never been a supporter of any political party but the way I see it if you vote anyone else in ,it's just going to be carry on as we left off
The last shower fianna failures have us lubing up for the unforeseeable future and I can't see anyone except sf or ula changing it

wee truck big driver · 11-02-2011 11:34PM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

they didnt after the 70's,was just killing innocent people mostly,

we dont need to know about what the britsh security forces where doing i was talking about what the ira where doing defending the nationalist people and fighting the britsh army for occupying and oppressing the people in the north of ireland

KELTICKNIGHTT · 11-02-2011 11:36PM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

we dont need to know about what the britsh security forces where doing i was talking about what the ira where doing defending the nationalist people and fighting the britsh army for occupying and oppressing the people in the north of ireland

what about now,what the excuse with sf now still supporting IRA and selling the IRA stuff on there website

KELTICKNIGHTT · 11-02-2011 11:38PM

keithm1 wrote: »

I think you maybe wrong there ,it'll be the first time I'll be voting for them ,I've never been a supporter of any political party but the way I see it if you vote anyone else in ,it's just going to be carry on as we left off
The last shower fianna failures have us lubing up for the unforeseeable future and I can't see anyone except sf or ula changing it

i dont think so would vote independents before i vote sf

wee truck big driver · 11-02-2011 11:49PM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

what about now,what the excuse with sf now still supporting IRA and selling the IRA stuff on there website

because s.f our proud of there connection to an army that was small in numbers but still able to put the fear of god into the britsh goverment

KELTICKNIGHTT · 11-02-2011 11:54PM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

because s.f our proud of there connection to an army that was small in numbers but still able to put the fear of god into the britsh goverment

for this reason that sf still supports terrorists,they will never be part of a government thank god

SafeSurfer · 12-02-2011 12:04AM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

i would consider voting for any of the established parties who through their fear of the ira. allowed the gardai to assault suspected ira members during interrogation, who collaborated with britsh security forces to murder innocent irish people they suspected of being members of the ira and even covered up the bombing of monaghan and dublin. when these parties (f.g f.f and lab) admit to these cowardly acts i might just might consider voting for them

Links?

SafeSurfer · 12-02-2011 12:12AM

wee truck big driver wrote: »

it wasnt multiple choice. i was merely stating the fact that those who joined the ira where brave soliders who put their life on the line for their country

If as you say they were brave soldiers. These soldiers were fighting in a war. Would it follow that some of the actions that these soldiers took during that war could legitimately be labelled war crimes?

PauloMN · 12-02-2011 12:16AM

keithm1 wrote: »

I think you maybe wrong there ,it'll be the first time I'll be voting for them ,I've never been a supporter of any political party but the way I see it if you vote anyone else in ,it's just going to be carry on as we left off
The last shower fianna failures have us lubing up for the unforeseeable future and I can't see anyone except sf or ula changing it

Sad thing is SF getting "protest" votes from people who are pissed off with FF, rather than people thinking their policies will work.

If you took the "protest" voters out of the SF counts, I reckon you'd remove half the SF vote.

If SF gain in this election (which I assume they will), I lay the blame squarely with FF and the Greens. Doherty, in fairness to him, has jumped all over the disaster that FF left in Donegal by not sorting out that by-election. Adams is a weakness in that party, so hopefully the media will keep at him for sound-bites over the next two week to pull their vote back down.

Pete M. · 12-02-2011 12:24AM

Those who live in the past are doomed to repeat it.

If this country doesn't implement major societal & political & economic reform, we are just going to keep getting sucked under.

The SF manifesto, and that of the ULA, are the only ones that seem to state that fundamental change is needed and is what they seek.

With Lab, FG & FF it would be business as usual.

So put it behind you. The Country has moved on. But we need to keep moving on.

If you don't agree with their policies, fair enough, but play the ball, not the man.

And what about Eamon's dodgy links and FG's Nationalist Socialist overtures, and well FF, we all know about them.

What they have managed to get the whole lot of us into will soon be seen for what it is.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 12:29AM

Pete M. wrote: »

Those who live in the past are doomed to repeat it.

If this country doesn't implement major societal & political & economic reform, we are just going to keep getting sucked under.

The SF manifesto, and that of the ULA, are the only ones that seem to state that fundamental change is needed and is what they seek.

With Lab, FG & FF it would be business as usual.

So put it behind you. The Country has moved on. But we need to keep moving on.

If you don't agree with their policies, fair enough, but play the ball, not the man.

And what about Eamon's dodgy links and FG's Nationalist Socialist overtures, and well FF, we all know about them.

What they have managed to get the whole lot of us into will soon be seen for what it is.

when sinn fein doesnt support or sell IRA crap ,then people can look at sf more seriously ,till then they are no good for this country,using the pension fund will not help this country,they need more experience too know better ,maybe 10 years,they might

Pete M. · 12-02-2011 12:36AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

when sinn fein doesnt support or sell IRA crap ,then people can look at sf more seriously ,till then they are no good for this country,using the pension fund will not help this country,they need more experience too know better ,maybe 10 years,they might

People are taking them quite seriously already and have done for some time.

They will get a very significant vote.

Lots of people and parties could be seen as 'no good for the country'.

As for the Pension Fund, I would have thought it would have to help us at some stage.

I wonder what state the old place will be in in ten years?

If it is completely fcuked, it won't be the fault of Sinn Fein.

And btw my first vote will not be going to them.

Just so you know.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 12:43AM

Pete M. wrote: »

People are taking them quite seriously already and have done for some time.

They will get a very significant vote.

Lots of people and parties could be seen as 'no good for the country'.

As for the Pension Fund, I would have thought it would have to help us at some stage.

I wonder what state the old place will be in in ten years?

If it is completely fcuked, it won't be the fault of Sinn Fein.

And btw my first vote will not be going to them.

Just so you know.

not sure if any party will help this country least sf,yes they get votes,from angry people who not happy,but thats what sf is banking ,they never be government material in there current state,so thats why maybe 5-10 years with new views in party and finally beak the link too IRA,which i dont think they canff,fg and labour are more alike than they want too admit but thats another story,

Pete M. · 12-02-2011 12:50AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

not sure if any party will help this country least sf,yes they get votes,from angry people who not happy,but thats what sf is banking ,they never be government material in there current state,so thats why maybe 5-10 years with new views in party and finally beak the link too IRA,which i dont think they canff,fg and labour are more alike than they want too admit but thats another story,

Hey, each to his own eh?

Your username would suggest polar opposite views to those of the Shinners anyway maybe?

gsxr1 · 12-02-2011 12:58AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4vroGAJ5kY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4vroGAJ5kY

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 01:00AM

Pete M. wrote: »

Hey, each to his own eh?

Your username would suggest polar opposite views to those of the Shinners anyway maybe?

my user name isnt connected too anything im afraid,sorry guy,
my views is i havent made my mind up who too vote for,maybe last min thing when im at voting station,dont see any choice with any party in ireland ,same old ,same old, over all the choices are very poor,by your views,would think you might be gf

dont see much difference between ff and fg as much as they pretend too be,

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 01:06AM

gsxr1 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4vroGAJ5kY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4vroGAJ5kY

saw it

shows how much sf knows,not government material

caseyann · 12-02-2011 01:07AM

gsxr1 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4vroGAJ5kY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4vroGAJ5kY

Dammit is there not anymore?
Thanks

Pete M. · 12-02-2011 01:13AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

my user name isnt connected too anything im afraid,sorry guy,
my views is i havent made my mind up who too vote for,maybe last min thing when im at voting station,dont see any choice with any party in ireland ,same old ,same old, over all the choices are very poor,by your views,would think you might be gf

dont see much difference between ff and fg as much as they pretend too be,

gf?

I ain't your girlfriend :P

It's true there may not be many stand out candidates, except for Ming, but you have to go for the right one that's there.
Don't leave it until you go into the booth to decide.
Inform yourself and do what you think is right.

so vote SF if there's no independent socialist/ULA candidate:pac::pac::pac:

and

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

saw it

shows how much sf knows,not government material

What? Not Government material?

What passes for 'government material' in this country lately has been of a whole lot lower standard than this chap.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 01:18AM

Pete M. wrote: »

gf?

I ain't your girlfriend :P

It's true there may not be many stand out candidates, except for Ming, but you have to go for the right one that's there.
Don't leave it until you go into the booth to decide.
Inform yourself and do what you think is right.

so vote SF if there's no independent socialist/ULA candidate:pac::pac::pac:

i have a girl in my life, thanks any ways

probably make my mind up a day before voting,i dont buy into too the false stuff that you know wont happen after the election from all the partys spin doctors,only way ,and is only way,is Ireland political system and view needs too change,wont happen with we have as choices now,maybe 5-10 years time,they all say its needs change,so we see ,if they do change it
but for now,will listen and watch as others do too make ones mind up whoo too give votes too,sf wont be considered,specily after seeing views from party and its supporters,

derrybhoy · 12-02-2011 01:24AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

saw it

shows how much sf knows,not government material

Pearse had peter matthews f.g agreeing with him,Even cormac lucey ex P.d's said that the only party to take on the vested intrest's and the people that have destroyed the country are Sinn fein and he is no friend of the party.

Pete M. · 12-02-2011 01:25AM

Fair Enough. But what did you mean so by gf?

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 01:37AM

Pete M. wrote: »

Fair Enough. But what did you mean so by gf?

my mistake,fine gael ,but i think you cleared that up

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 01:40AM

derrybhoy wrote: »

Pearse had peter matthews f.g agreeing with him,Even cormac lucey ex P.d's said that the only party to take on the vested intrest's and the people that have destroyed the country are Sinn fein and he is no friend of the party.

o boy,fg agreed with sf Dorthy,big deal and this makes a difference,sf need policys that work
sf need too stop supporting IRA,
sf needs policy's that we know will work instead of the blaming game
no lame excuse needed for sf, policy's that we know will work,not taking pension fund is a solution

Pete M. · 12-02-2011 01:41AM

KELTICKNIGHTT wrote: »

my mistake,fine gael ,but i think you cleared that up

:eek:

You thought that I would vote for Fine Gael?

You and SF = Me and FG, maybe.

But I don't like to go on about it :cool:

Good luck deciding.

Hope you do the right thing.

KELTICKNIGHTT · 12-02-2011 01:43AM

Pete M. wrote: »

:eek:

You thought that I would vote for Fine Gael?

You and SF = Me and FG, maybe.

But I don't like to go on about it :cool:

Good luck deciding.

Hope you do the right thing.

cheers

anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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