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Why can't we harvest the power of gravity?

  • 11-02-2011 02:20PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭


    We could build a massive hole in the ground, like 30 or 40 miles deep. Then have a bloke at the top of the hole drop a brick down into it. Now the brick will be attached to a rope which will be part of a type of pulley system, then somewhere along the pulley system will be a box which converts the movement and friction of the rope into energy. Would this work? No one steal my idea cause I haven't copyrighted it yet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,698 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Dam it.

    Wish I'd had that idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Why don't you get digging and find out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Wouldn't you have to use up a similar amount of energy retrieving the brick...:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    Stay drinking!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Dutch Roll


    Build a hole?

    I think it would probably get very hot and liquid-ey after about 20 or 30 miles. I also think the effort and energy put into building the hole would far outweigh any potential gain from throwing bricks down it

    Nuclear is the way to go methinks. When will the people realise goddammit


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    tman wrote: »
    Wouldn't you have to use up a similar amount of energy retrieving the brick...:confused:

    F*ck thermodynamics!

    they're an asshole anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Dutch Roll wrote: »
    Build a hole?

    Dig yourself a bridge and get over it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    tman wrote: »
    Wouldn't you have to use up a similar amount of energy retrieving the brick...:confused:

    It's a brick. Do we need really need to retrieve it?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    Some skanger would steal the brick. :pac:
    Then where would we be?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    google perpetual motion.
    in summary you cant create energy only convert it.
    the energy used to raise the brick would be the same energy gathered from its kinnetic energy.
    so no positive energy just a lot of time wasted.



    throwin down some knowledge yo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Dutch Roll


    tman wrote: »
    Dig yourself a bridge and get over it!

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    Duggy747 wrote: »

    that could work, but once the brick gets to the centre of the earth would it not stop dead then? or would it keep falling until it came out the other side?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    tman wrote: »
    Wouldn't you have to use up a similar amount of energy retrieving the brick...:confused:
    FatherLen wrote: »
    google perpetual motion.
    in summary you cant create energy only convert it.
    the energy used to raise the brick would be the same energy gathered from its kinnetic energy.
    so no positive energy just a lot of time wasted.



    throwin down some knowledge yo.

    Len, ya big bollix!
    Why do we need to raise the brick?! It's a brick, leave it.
    I love my brick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    FatherLen wrote: »
    google perpetual motion.
    in summary you cant create energy only convert it.
    the energy used to raise the brick would be the same energy gathered from its kinnetic energy.
    so no positive energy just a lot of time wasted.



    throwin down some knowledge yo.

    If you wet the brick, it would dry on the way down and be lighter to pull back up.
    eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    ok let me rephrase. the energy needed to remove the mass of earth needed to create a hole would be larger than the energy gotten from throwing a brick down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,525 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Better still, just fire a brick 40 miles into space and catch it on the way back down.

    Rockets are free, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    Humans eh! wrote: »
    If you wet the brick, it would dry on the way down and be lighter to pull back up.
    eh?
    good point but you would have to take into consideration the actual energy of wetting the brick, which i know is very small but the energy you would get from the wet brick over the energy would get from a dry brick is very small.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭gonedrinking


    FatherLen wrote: »
    ok let me rephrase. the energy needed to remove the mass of earth needed to create a hole would be larger than the energy gotten from throwing a brick down.

    in the short term yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    FatherLen wrote: »
    ok let me rephrase. the energy needed to remove the mass of earth needed to create a hole would be larger than the energy gotten from throwing a brick down.

    Can't we just use the hole that the bank bailout is throwing our money into its massive. I've heard it described as"a bottomless pit" :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,698 ✭✭✭tricky D


    tman wrote: »
    Wouldn't you have to use up a similar amount of energy retrieving the brick...:confused:

    You do it at night when the rate is cheap and with excess capacity. Incredible you might think, but it's how Turlough Hill works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    In a way - we already do: the water mill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    why dont we harness bunjee jumpers instead and have fun while we are at it...........................

    frAg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    its all well and good, but its a waste of a good brick. I'd use a large rock instead. Actually a better idea would be to role a magnetic ball down the side of some big mountain like the alps or some shít, have a battery inside the ball which charges from the rotation of said ball. That's prime gravity harvest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    FatherLen wrote: »
    good point but you would have to take into consideration the actual energy of wetting the brick, which i know is very small but the energy you would get from the wet brick over the energy would get from a dry brick is very small.

    Just leave them uncovered in the rain = no energy expended.
    I have loads of wet bricks in my garden and I didn't use any energy wetting them at all. :D
    And small is better than nothing! no point being greedy.
    I call it my wet brick energy ratio solution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    Standman wrote: »
    its all well and good, but its a waste of a good brick. I'd use a large rock instead. Actually a better idea would be to role a magnetic ball down the side of some big mountain like the alps or some shít, have a battery inside the ball which charges from the rotation of said ball. That's prime gravity harvest

    I like it! :D
    Why would the ball be magnetic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    You should join Steorn, they would love that idea!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    We're already harnessing the power of gravity to keep things from floating off into space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    The power of gravity has harvested many a laugh on YouTube


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    RichieC wrote: »
    F*ck thermodynamics!

    they're an asshole anyway.

    isnt is simple physics ... "every action has an equal and opposite reaction"....Isaac Newton I think !!


    (uh oh ...nerd hat off and run to the corner)


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