Northern Ireland fans carrying Union flags.....

charlemont · 10-02-2011 10:02PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

You would think it is a crime going by the OP. Loyalists with the Union flag shocker.

Did you give your 3 flags a wash before the game, Keith ?

N I shouldn't even have its own soccer team, its not and never will be a proper country..

gurramok · 10-02-2011 10:02PM

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Apparently a few windows got put in and there was some minor rioting. Have a feeling the final game (ni vs roi) may be cancelled as its on around the same time as the queen's visit and the 30yr anniversary of bobby sands death.

supposedly this was outside a bar

That same group marched from where their buses were parked at the top of Sean Moore road down to the stadium and attempted to march into a housing estate off Sean Moore road singing songs. Witnessed this myself from a distance but the Gardai were very quick to turn them back onto the main road.

Do you know where that video was shot? It either looks to be Irishtown House or outside one of the pubs on Bath ave, maybe Murrays, hard to tell. On Irishtown House, I have heard 2 stories. One they forced the owner to take down a tricolour and put up a Union Jack in behind the bar and another that it was done with consent and all in good humour, who to believe!

Also, where was the trouble? I heard that it was in Sandymount rather than Irishtown but then again there were lots of rumours and the Gardai have said nothing. Lots of sirens were heard locally all evening, god help the fixture in May, the NI fans will not be able to drink in the local pubs unless everyone found the love

Zebra3 · 10-02-2011 10:03PM

Was in Windsor Park watching Shels play Linfield in 2006.

Linfield fans were singing about winning WWII while making nazi salutes.

Plenty of racist abuse aimed by their fans at Joey Ndo as well. :rolleyes:

Wolfe Tone · 10-02-2011 10:04PM

Terrontress wrote: »

Well last night there were at least 4 Catholics playing. Baird, McCourt, McGinn and Boyce. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more but I don't know.

I think it is not as bad as you make out.

You go ask those fans if they want fenians in their team and see what they say

robinph · 10-02-2011 10:05PM

Babyblessed wrote: »

northern Ireland does have a flag of its own...

http://www.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/uk/flag.htm

The union flag is all the flags superimposed on each other. So they were carrying a flag partly supporting Scotland!

Don't see any flag in that set to represent Northern Ireland. There is one for Ireland as a whole which you may have got confused with admittedly.

mikemac · 10-02-2011 10:06PM

Strange alright, I lived in Belfast when they beat England 1-0 and it was huge and they were all so proud of their team.

bigwormbundoran · 10-02-2011 10:06PM

Terrontress wrote: »

Well last night there were at least 4 Catholics playing. Baird, McCourt, McGinn and Boyce. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more but I don't know.

I think it is not as bad as you make out.

McCourt and McGinn both got bullets in the post over it last month.

Neil Lennon was told he'd be murdered if he ever played for them again whilst he was captain.

It aint exactly fine and dandy either now to be fair

Agricola · 10-02-2011 10:06PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

They have an idea of what it is to be "British", but that concept of Britishness has long since died. They remind me of white S.Africans.

Fair point. Could we tie in evolution here! Kind of like the strange assortment of wildlife that evolved on islands like Australia and Madagascar. Cut off from the herd, they turned into creatures which were very different from their cousins on the mainland!

RichieC · 10-02-2011 10:07PM

charlemont wrote: »

Did you give your 3 flags a wash before the game, Keith ?

N I shouldn't even have its own soccer team, its not and never will be a proper country..

:rolleyes:

Notorious97 · 10-02-2011 10:07PM

R P McMurphy wrote: »

What years were those in Notorious?, I was at a few in years gone by and the atmosphere was anything but receptive in windsor park

ah these were in Dublin, back in the early 90s, im only in late 20s, so maybe i was too young to notice the tensions, but i remember the pub before and after with my Da (i had a coke of course lol) but was NI fans drinking with my da and the atmosphere was good, but saying that im sure 90% NI fans are genuinely nice regardless of whtat community they come from, and 90% ROI fans are nice, 10% on both sides are pri*ks i guess

Derfil · 10-02-2011 10:08PM

We're not Brazil, we're Norn Iron.

Wolfe Tone · 10-02-2011 10:08PM

There should be an all Ireland team like in rugby

Terrontress · 10-02-2011 10:09PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

You go ask those fans if they want fenians in their team and see what they say

Which fans? The Northern Ireland supporters won a UEFA award in 2006 or so for having the best fans in Europe.

I think if you asked them if they wanted fenians in their team they would say no, they want good footballers.

Some of the best ever Northern Ireland footballers have been Catholics. Jennings, Donaghy, Armstrong, Magilton and there is a good number there now.

It's just a pity that I have to make the distinctiion to be able to rattle names off but those that overstate the bigotry are every bit as bad as the bigoted element which exists.

KeithAFC · 10-02-2011 10:11PM

charlemont wrote: »

Did you give your 3 flags a wash before the game, Keith ?

N I shouldn't even have its own soccer team, its not and never will be a proper country..

Nope. I want the Ulster men to do well but its not a huge passion of mine. Im a club man myself but i love my country in general.

R P McMurphy · 10-02-2011 10:11PM

Would say that 10% used to attend in Windsor Park then

mikemac · 10-02-2011 10:11PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

There should be an all Ireland team like in rugby

Will happen some day

But first the IFA and FAI will probably need to merge.
And then the two leagues to merge

The Setanta Cup was a step in the right direction

Terrontress · 10-02-2011 10:12PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

There should be an all Ireland team like in rugby

There used to be but the FAI formed a breakaway movement.

Badgermonkey · 10-02-2011 10:13PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

There should be an all Ireland team like in rugby

But soccer fans in much of europe and the world can't be trusted to act like grown ups unfortunately.

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 10-02-2011 10:14PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

Nope. I want the UlsterNI men to do well but its not a huge passion of mine. Im a club man myself but i love my country in general.

Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan are in Ulster.

Agricola · 10-02-2011 10:15PM

Badgermonkey wrote: »

But soccer fans in much of europe and the world can't be trusted to act like grown ups unfortunately.

Its hard for them when many of the football associations and their governing body can't even manage it.

KeithAFC · 10-02-2011 10:16PM

baz2009 wrote: »

Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan are in Ulster.

So are the players. They are Ulster men to me.

pragmatic1 · 10-02-2011 10:17PM

baz2009 wrote: »

Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan are in Ulster.

That annoys the **** out of me when loyalists mix up the two. Ulster was here long before them and it will be here long after them.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 10-02-2011 10:17PM

Notorious97 wrote: »

ah these were in Dublin, back in the early 90s, im only in late 20s, so maybe i was too young to notice the tensions, but i remember the pub before and after with my Da (i had a coke of course lol) but was NI fans drinking with my da and the atmosphere was good, but saying that im sure 90% NI fans are genuinely nice regardless of whtat community they come from, and 90% ROI fans are nice, 10% on both sides are pri*ks i guess

the one in windsor park seemed pretty tense after mcloughlin scores lol.

this brings back memories I was never so happy in my life as a 9 year old as Ireland qualified for the world cup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI1KuKKY7JU

darragh16 · 10-02-2011 10:20PM

I can't really see the Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland game getting cancelled in May like some people think. Its part of a tournament, not a friendly. If anything its Irish people (or Nationalists should I say) that will probably go out of their way to have a go at them. There will be a big Garda presence to keep them seperated and increased security measures.

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 10-02-2011 10:20PM

KeithAFC wrote: »

So are the players. They are Ulster men to me.

Yes, but Ulster is not exclusively Northern Ireland's, we still have 1/3 of it(should be all of it, but that's another argument), so it grinds my gears when Nordies call themselves Ulster whatever.

R P McMurphy · 10-02-2011 10:22PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

That annoys the **** out of me when loyalists mix up the two. Ulster was here long before them and it will be here long after them.

There are plenty of people in Cavan and Monaghan that consider themselves British even through were born and raised in those counties. Is an unusual viewpoint but sure life would be boring if everyone thought the same

Terrontress · 10-02-2011 10:22PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

That annoys the **** out of me when loyalists mix up the two. Ulster was here long before them and it will be here long after them.

It's a synonym. Just like the state of the 26 counties is called Ireland but it is not the whole of Ireland. Or Malin Head is not part of Northern Ireland but it is more northerly than anywhere else in Ireland.

ejmaztec · 10-02-2011 10:22PM

Derfil wrote: »

We're not Brazil, we're Norn Iron.

There are fewer nuts in Brazil.

robinph · 10-02-2011 10:23PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Will happen some day

But first the IFA and FAI will probably need to merge.
And then the two leagues to merge

The Setanta Cup was a step in the right direction

Never going to happen whilst the "home nations" get a vote each on the running the game.

KeithAFC · 10-02-2011 10:24PM

baz2009 wrote: »

Yes, but Ulster is not exclusively Northern Ireland's, we still have 1/3 of it(should be all of it, but that's another argument), so it grinds my gears when Nordies call themselves Ulster whatever.

I frankly don't care if it annoys you. The players who play for Northern Ireland are Ulster men and that is what I call them. If some don't like that, tough.

Northern Ireland fans carrying Union flags.....

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