Valentine's Day

KnifeWRENCH · 09-02-2011 03:15PM

FatherLen wrote: »

im single so naturally i hate it with the very fibres of my soul

^ This.

I've never been in a relationship on Valentine's Day so in my mind the only purpose of the day is to make me feel bad about myself.

I hope all lucky loved-up fúckers suffer traumatic breakups on Valentine's Night. :mad:

/self-righteous bitterness

smash · 09-02-2011 03:16PM

liah wrote: »

See, it still reads as the same thing for me. Giving something to someone you care about on a designated day. You just made Valentine's day seem a lot worse than the rest by your phrasing but it isn't really because the national holidays such as Christmas and Easter you mentioned also are just as much for companies and businesses to exploit people.

Birthdays and Anniversaries don't come into this because they're not designated holidays that there's one date for everyone for, different dynamic really as it takes away the entire 'corporate' part of the argument.

Ok well leaving Birthdays and Anniversaries out of it, you have Valentines, Easter and Christmas. Easter and Christmas were originally religious holidays but now their for kids really. For the kids, Christmas is the best day of the year. To see them enjoy it is worth the money. They both also public holidays.

Valentines isn't a public holiday, and was never a religious holiday. It's a man made day that means nothing really. If someone wants to participate them let them but it's all a bit silly in my opinion. Although I wouldn't turn down the steak or blowjob.

Carl Sagan · 09-02-2011 03:19PM

liah wrote: »

But there's Steak and Blowjob day for men to balance it out.

Doesn't happen. :mad:

liah · 09-02-2011 03:20PM

Carl Sagan wrote: »

Doesn't happen. :mad:

Does too.

smash · 09-02-2011 03:21PM

liah wrote: »

Does too.

you single?

liah · 09-02-2011 03:22PM

steve06 wrote: »

you single?

My Valentine's date is my computer. What do you think

Screaminmidget · 09-02-2011 03:22PM

liah wrote: »

But there's Steak and Blowjob day for men to balance it out.

Steak?? I'm There

Captain Chaos wrote: »

March 14th.

Good one

Can't believe no one else spotted this :P

Captain Chaos · 09-02-2011 03:24PM

Carl Sagan wrote: »

Doesn't happen. :mad:

What more could one want after a good med/rare steak, just being greedy then really.:D

smash · 09-02-2011 03:26PM

liah wrote: »

My Valentine's date is my computer. What do you think

I'll bring the steak if you bring...

:D

On another note, O'Briens off licence have some great deals for valentines day.

jackiebaron · 09-02-2011 03:26PM

liah wrote: »

I really don't get the hate for Valentine's day above most other holidays, it's the same concept, and the arguments always come across as either bitter or self-affirming.

Can some of you Valentine's haters explain your hate?

Well some holidays are ok. For those people who believe in the zombie sky-wizard, then Christmas and Easter are for them. But non-skypilots can enjoy the pagan sides to these festivals as well such as gving gifts, getting pissed, eating chocolate eggs, whatever. We have bank holidays too throughout the year and sh1t like that. The overriding feature of all these specific days is that we all get a day off school/work (well the vast majority of us) and can stay in bed or have a long weekend at the seaside or in the pub or wherever.

Valentine's Day is just a crass and cynical attempt at guilt-tripping people into expressing their love and affection for someone by spending money on them. As are mother's day, father's day and one or two other farcical "days" that the card and chocolate industry dreamt up. You should be respectful to your mother or father 24/7. You don't see the card industries advising little kids "Look don't buy a card for your ma on mother's Day. Just do the dishes and bring her up tea and toast in bed" do you? Do you bollox!
If these bastards thought they could get away with a "Pet's Day" or a "Nextdoor Neighbour's Day" they'd try and fob that crap off on us too to sell a few stupid trinkets.

Setun · 09-02-2011 03:28PM

liah wrote: »

My Valentine's date is my computer. What do you think

Liah, you'll be fine with just your computer

You can watch this video on repeat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycAcjO81Kbg

liah · 09-02-2011 03:30PM

steve06 wrote: »

Ok well leaving Birthdays and Anniversaries out of it, you have Valentines, Easter and Christmas. Easter and Christmas were originally religious holidays but now their for kids really. For the kids, Christmas is the best day of the year. To see them enjoy it is worth the money. They both also public holidays.

Valentines isn't a public holiday, and was never a religious holiday. It's a man made day that means nothing really. If someone wants to participate them let them but it's all a bit silly in my opinion. Although I wouldn't turn down the steak or blowjob.

..

Saint Valentine's Day, commonly shortened to Valentine's Day,[1][2][3] is an annual commemoration held on February 14 celebrating love and affection between intimate companions.[1][3] The day is named after one or more early Christian martyrs named Valentine and was established by Pope Gelasius I in 500 AD. It was deleted from the Roman calendar of saints in 1969 by Pope Paul VI, but its religious observance is still permitted.

liah · 09-02-2011 03:33PM

jackiebaron wrote: »

Well some holidays are ok. For those people who believe in the zombie sky-wizard, then Christmas and Easter are for them. But non-skypilots can enjoy the pagan sides to these festivals as well such as gving gifts, getting pissed, eating chocolate eggs, whatever. We have bank holidays too throughout the year and sh1t like that. The overriding feature of all these specific days is that we all get a day off school/work (well the vast majority of us) and can stay in bed or have a long weekend at the seaside or in the pub or wherever.

Valentine's Day is just a crass and cynical attempt at guilt-tripping people into expressing their love and affection for someone by spending money on them. As are mother's day, father's day and one or two other farcical "days" that the card and chocolate industry dreamt up. You should be respectful to your mother or father 24/7. You don't see the card industries advising little kids "Look don't buy a card for your ma on mother's Day. Just do the dishes and bring her up tea and toast in bed" do you? Do you bollox!
If these bastards thought they could get away with a "Pet's Day" or a "Nextdoor Neighbour's Day" they'd try and fob that crap off on us too to sell a few stupid trinkets.

Arguably that's just perspective, though. I could equally say Valentine's day is a global day to celebrate the idea of love and partnership that's been manipulated by companies like every other holiday, the rest of it is purely projection; it's not an either or scenario at all. You can still do things randomly for your partner and celebrate on the national day for it. At least, there doesn't seem to be any valid reason to hate this particular holiday more than any other (e.g. as you mentioned Mother's or Father's days).

evercloserunion · 09-02-2011 03:38PM

It seems that by now the alternative hipster attitude of hating Valentine's day because it's, loike, sooooo commercial, has now become so prevalent that surely the new alternative hipster thing to do is to celebrate it by buying a card and flowers and taking your loved one out for a nice meal?

smash · 09-02-2011 03:38PM

ok, so it was a religious holiday... not since I've been alive though

Captain_Generic · 09-02-2011 03:39PM

evercloserunion wrote: »

It seems that by now the alternative hipster attitude of hating Valentine's day because it's, loike, sooooo commercial, has now become so prevalent that surely the new alternative hipster thing to do is to celebrate it by buying a card and flowers and taking your loved one out for a nice meal?

http://www.cracked.com/article_18916

Columbia · 09-02-2011 03:41PM

Neither of us are that into it. I'm heading over to her house to cook dinner, and she's going to bake something for dessert. We do the same at least once a week anyway, but this time there'll likely be some Valentines theme to what she bakes.

Kasabian · 09-02-2011 03:41PM

I need a date for Valentine's .

*Looks around , nope she's not here.

Earthhorse · 09-02-2011 03:43PM

liah wrote: »

To me they're all essentially the same thing, they're all about giving something to someone you care about on a designated national day, at the crux of it. And they've each been taken advantage of by advertising and marketing companies to a massive degree. Valentine's day exploits couples, every other major giving holiday exploits families. Everyone's exploited equally. :pac:

That's fair enough. To me there is still something of real value, beyond the gift giving, left in Christmas and it especially felt that way growing up (probably because I was still Christian). Valentine's Day, on the other hand, doesn't strike any resonance with me and so I'm more cynical about it.

The extra hate for Valentine's day seems especially bitter to me for some reason which is why I asked. I have very little feeling toward the actual holiday, myself.. mostly just have a sense of humour about it and a general curiosity towards other people's reactions to it.

It is especially bitter. Personally, I'm indifferent, though I do think the holiday is biased in favour of guys treating girls (hence steak and blowjob day which is only a myth anyway).

Xivilai · 09-02-2011 03:43PM

Blah, its not the lonely desperation talking, but Valentine's day just seems so plastic...

liah · 09-02-2011 03:45PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

It is especially bitter. Personally, I'm indifferent, though I do think the holiday is biased in favour of guys treating girls (hence steak and blowjob day which is only a myth anyway).

Steak and Blowjob day may not be massively or 'officially' recognized (name is too un-PC for that) but it's been going on a few years now and definitely has gained some popularity internationally-- I've celebrated with my exes and know other people who partake in it. It's tongue in cheek, mind, but people do actually participate.

kiddums · 09-02-2011 03:46PM

To put it simply, I treat our anniversary like a special day, and I don't really bother with valentines day.
I'll treat the special but no major purchases or fuss.

Its just a was for shops to charge you an extorsionate amount for things.

I prices roses recently and they are 4 times the price I paid in Nov. Complete rip off.

Kasabian · 09-02-2011 03:46PM

liah wrote: »

Steak and Blowjob day may not be massively or 'officially' recognized (name is too un-PC for that) but it's been going on a few years now and definitely has gained some popularity internationally-- I've celebrated with my exes and know other people who partake in it. It's tongue in cheek, mind, but people do actually participate.

You're doing it wrong

Captain_Generic · 09-02-2011 03:48PM

I've actually got a first date this weekend, so my desperation maneuvers of the past two weeks has payed off. Nothing like whoring yourself out for the sake of a meaningless holiday:D

09-02-2011 03:51PM

kiddums wrote: »

To put it simply, I treat our anniversary like a special day, and I don't really bother with valentines day.
I'll treat the special but no major purchases or fuss.

Its just a was for shops to charge you an extorsionate amount for things.

I prices roses recently and they are 4 times the price I paid in Nov. Complete rip off.

They had them half price in citydeal, you missed your chance :pac:

Earthhorse · 09-02-2011 03:53PM

liah wrote: »

Steak and Blowjob day may not be massively or 'officially' recognized (name is too un-PC for that) but it's been going on a few years now and definitely has gained some popularity internationally-- I've celebrated with my exes and know other people who partake in it. It's tongue in cheek, mind, but people do actually participate.

Still proves my point that Valentine's Day is seen as guys doing something for girls though which is probably where a lot of resentment toward the holiday comes from in these modern, gender-equal times.

Captain_Generic · 09-02-2011 03:58PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

Still proves my point that Valentine's Day is seen as guys doing something for girls though which is probably where a lot of resentment toward the holiday comes from in these modern, gender-equal times.

Sure...

df1985 · 09-02-2011 03:58PM

I prefer "leave your bird at home and go for pints with the lads day", doesnt come very often with my mates.....

kiddums · 09-02-2011 03:59PM

bluewolf wrote: »

They had them half price in citydeal, you missed your chance :pac:

That woulda made them very expensive, I live in the back of beyond, on the left.:pac:

liah · 09-02-2011 04:01PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

Still proves my point that Valentine's Day is seen as guys doing something for girls though which is probably where a lot of resentment toward the holiday comes from in these modern, gender-equal times.

Yes, but how can you really expect it to be any different at the moment? It's really just a product of our history and is largely residual traditions, it's not something that'll change overnight. At least Steak and Blowjob day is getting somewhere and doing so fairly quickly if you put it into perspective-- all it really takes is someone thinking of a good enough title, starting a website and getting people to go to it to create a better equivalent if S&BJ day isn't taking off quickly enough.

Valentine's Day

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