Wicklow

The Volt · 23-01-2011 02:29PM #1

It's a 5-seater. Here are the candidates (Subject to change)

Fianna Fail
Pat Fitzgerald
Dick Roche TD

Fine Gael
Billy Timmons TD
Andrew Doyle TD
Simon Harris

Labour
Anne Ferris
Conal Kavanagh
Tom Fortune

Sinn Fein
John Brady

Greens
Niall Byrne

Others of note:
Joe Behan TD
Nicky Kelly

Definitely 2 there for FG already and Harris is a strong candidate with big support in Greystones that could hamper Tom Fortune's chance of election, they could well get 3 here. Labour have done well in opinion polls here but how that will transfer given Liz McManus' retirement is anyone's guess. They should however win 1 seat at the very least. I wouldn't rate Sinn Fein or the Greens with any real chance here.

Will Dick Roche lose his seat? Also it is not yet known if Joe Behan will run

Imhof Tank · 23-01-2011 08:20PM

Voltwad wrote: »

It's a 5-Definitely 2 there for FG already and Harris is a strong candidate with big support in Greystones that could hamper Tom Fortune's chance of election, they could well get 3 here. Labour have done well in opinion polls here but how that will transfer given Liz McManus' retirement is anyone's guess. They should however win 1 seat at the very least. I wouldn't rate Sinn Fein or the Greens with any real chance here.

Wouldnt be so sure of that - Brady has huge support in Bray where the population is.

The Bray labour vote for Ferris should put her above Fortune in the first prefs and be elected with his transfers

So I would say

Doyle
Timmins
Ferris
Brady
Roche or Behan ahead of Harris

24-01-2011 09:35AM

Brady's downfall will be a lack of transfers.
There are 3 fg candidates,very few of theirs will go his way.
Labour has 3 candidates so by the time they all flow amongst each other,Brady will be depending on FF transfers if any.
I wouldn't be confident of him being elected.

Mushy · 06-02-2011 07:29PM

Does anybody know much about Stephen Donnelly? Solely based on his policies, he seems decent, and I am strongly considering voting for him right now.

In the grand scheme of things, FG X2, Labour will get at least one (I'd hope Ferris), SF might nick a seat and FF too.

NOTE: I am in no way linked to Stephen Donnelly or any other politicians.

EDIT: Looking at John Brady's website, using terms like "feckless halfwits", while true, surely cannot be expected to get elected.

Setun · 06-02-2011 08:00PM

I don't know Simon Harris personally (only from the odd mention in the Bray People really), but I'd consider giving him my first choice if I was still living in the constituency. Honestly though I actually have little faith in any of the main political parties

Geansai Rua · 06-02-2011 09:58PM

Billy Timmins is the only one that does anything and has any interest in West Wicklow.
For that reason alone this side of the mountains will vote for him anyway!

Id hate Enda as Taoiseach though...

Havent decided myself!

The Volt · 06-02-2011 09:59PM

Geansai Rua wrote: »

Billy Timmins is the only one that does anything and has any interest in West Wicklow.
For that reason alone this side of the mountains will vote for him anyway!

Id hate Enda as Taoiseach though...

Havent decided myself!

West Wicklow consists of more than Baltinglass

West Wicklow is badly lacking in representation. I've only seen Tom Fortune out in Blessington thus far.

iPlop · 06-02-2011 10:32PM

Voltwad wrote: »

West Wicklow consists of more than Baltinglass

West Wicklow is badly lacking in representation. I've only seen Tom Fortune out in Blessington thus far.

Correct! Billy Timmins was handing out his leaflet outside my daughters school ,but I haven't seen anyone else in the area ,just election posters

Imhof Tank · 06-02-2011 11:04PM

Mushy wrote: »

EDIT: Looking at John Brady's website, using terms like "feckless halfwits", while true, surely cannot be expected to get elected.

Sure his supporters will lap that up.

At the locals count in Greystones last time round there was a lot stronger language than that aimed by the Brady camp at the defeated green candidate in particular

brendankelly · 07-02-2011 12:53AM

What about Gerry Kinsella and Pat Kavanagh of Fis Nua???

manta mad · 07-02-2011 01:44PM

im living in west wicklow,
and iv never seen any of them in the 12 years im here !!!!

never even a one at the door come election time !!

steelcityblues · 07-02-2011 01:52PM

Impressed with Donnelly when I saw him on VB - seems to actually have ideas for the future (gasp!)

Hope he takes one of the 5 seats.

Mushy · 07-02-2011 01:53PM

steelcityblues wrote: »

Impressed with Donnelly when I saw him on VB - seems to actually have ideas for the future (gasp!)

Hope he takes one of the 5 seats.

Any link as I'd like to see this.

spank_inferno · 07-02-2011 03:52PM

So once again Labour are fielding 3 Candidates to split their own vote.

Back in previous elections when it was the "Lady Wicklow, Jimmy O'Shaughnessy, Nicky Kelly" ticket, there were 2 seats there for the taking had the votes of the latter 2 been combined.

This time it will be no differentm Labour to get 1 seat.

As for the rest, I'm thinking FG x 3 plus 1 x FF, that being Dick Roche.

Mushy · 07-02-2011 04:08PM

spank_inferno wrote: »

So once again Labour are fielding 3 Candidates to split their own vote.

Back in previous elections when it was the "Lady Wicklow, Jimmy O'Shaughnessy, Nicky Kelly" ticket, there were 2 seats there for the taking had the votes of the latter 2 been combined.

This time it will be no differentm Labour to get 1 seat.

As for the rest, I'm thinking FG x 3 plus 1 x FF, that being Dick Roche.

Please no!

I remember him coming to my school when there was a function on and the President was coming too. He did the usual appearance for some publicity. Seats on the stage were for the organisers/principal etc, and there were 3 seats at the front, one for myself and 2 other students as we had to make a presentation.

When the goon realised there was no seat for him on the stage (something he was perturbed about), he went to sit in my seat. Knowing damn well who he was, what he was doing there, I gladly took my opportunity with a smart arsed 'Eh, these are reserved for myself and these students here'. The look on his face, wish I had a camera. The look on my parents face two rows back was nearly just as good.

spank_inferno · 07-02-2011 04:39PM

Mushy wrote: »

Please no!

I remember him coming to my school when there was a function on and the President was coming too. He did the usual appearance for some publicity. Seats on the stage were for the organisers/principal etc, and there were 3 seats at the front, one for myself and 2 other students as we had to make a presentation.

When the goon realised there was no seat for him on the stage (something he was perturbed about), he went to sit in my seat. Knowing damn well who he was, what he was doing there, I gladly took my opportunity with a smart arsed 'Eh, these are reserved for myself and these students here'. The look on his face, wish I had a camera. The look on my parents face two rows back was nearly just as good.

Ok.... well, that aside....

Roche is still a very competent and respected politician.

I rekon if FF's private polling had him facing defeat he would probably have stepped down rather than running again.

He's also the only candidate to ever knock on my door.
He spoke for a good while and was very informative.
(I didnt vote for him of course

)

I wonder if the other Bray/Greystones candidates will step outside their geographical comfort zones and visit other parts of the county they aspire to represent.

imme · 07-02-2011 05:24PM

steelcityblues wrote: »

Impressed with Donnelly when I saw him on VB - seems to actually have ideas for the future (gasp!)

Hope he takes one of the 5 seats.

he's getting lots of publicity. He was on with VB, radio a couple of times (national and local).
Established politicians would cut off their own hand and eat it raw to get the sort of coverage he's getting.

The Sindo gave him a nice puff piece as well.

He can't say he didn't get a lot of coverage, when the election and he wasn't elected. I can't see him being elected.:cool:

jimm55 · 07-02-2011 06:47PM

spank_inferno wrote: »

Ok.... well, that aside....

Roche is still a very competent and respected politician.

I rekon if FF's private polling had him facing defeat he would probably have stepped down rather than running again.

He's also the only candidate to ever knock on my door.
He spoke for a good while and was very informative.
(I didnt vote for him of course )

I wonder if the other Bray/Greystones candidates will step outside their geographical comfort zones and visit other parts of the county they aspire to represent.

I live in Donegal. 12 years ago I wrote all the T.D.s about a serious problem, that I had at the time. The only one, of the whole bunch that really bothered to help me was Dick Roche. He stuck with it, like a dog with a bone, over the following months until it was sorted out. When the chips are down, that's the time you really know who your friends are. I will be forever grateful to him. I only wish we had somebody half as helpful around here.

jimm55 · 07-02-2011 06:54PM

spank_inferno wrote: »

Ok.... well, that aside....

Roche is still a very competent and respected politician.

I rekon if FF's private polling had him facing defeat he would probably have stepped down rather than running again.

He's also the only candidate to ever knock on my door.
He spoke for a good while and was very informative.
(I didnt vote for him of course )

I wonder if the other Bray/Greystones candidates will step outside their geographical comfort zones and visit other parts of the county they aspire to represent.

I live in Donegal. 12 years ago I wrote all the T.D.s about a serious problem, that I had at the time. The only one, of the whole bunch that really bothered to help me was Dick Roche. He stuck with it, like a dog with a bone, over the following months until it was sorted out. When the chips are down, that's the time you really know who your friends are. I will be forever grateful to him.

craigybagel · 07-02-2011 08:05PM

Mushy wrote: »

Please no!

I remember him coming to my school when there was a function on and the President was coming too. He did the usual appearance for some publicity. Seats on the stage were for the organisers/principal etc, and there were 3 seats at the front, one for myself and 2 other students as we had to make a presentation.

When the goon realised there was no seat for him on the stage (something he was perturbed about), he went to sit in my seat. Knowing damn well who he was, what he was doing there, I gladly took my opportunity with a smart arsed 'Eh, these are reserved for myself and these students here'. The look on his face, wish I had a camera. The look on my parents face two rows back was nearly just as good.

Sir, I salute you!

saibhne · 08-02-2011 01:06PM

Mushy wrote: »

Any link as I'd like to see this.

hi Mushy,

A lot of media coverage on his website: www.stephendonnelly.ie

link to Vincent Browne clip is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su0e5ATR0qY

he's got my vote..

S.

brendankelly · 08-02-2011 01:35PM

SF should adopt the Fis Nua ideas

Our Fis Nua (New Vision) is to create a new sustainable economy based on our natural resources (i.e. gas and oil, forestry, agriculture, solar power, wave energy), and to give a voice to local communities in decision making by having Aarhus Convention (Local Agenda 21) transposed into Irish Law.

HalloweenJack · 08-02-2011 02:51PM

I heard a great one about Dick Roche: "He'd go to the opening of an envelope." Also, I've never had him knock at my door.

Big mistake by Labour, imo, running three candidates. Best to go for the two as there's a high chance they can get both them. Timmins should be re-elected no bother. Again, I think FG would be better off just running two candidates. I reckon Roche will get re-elected (*shudders*) and probably another FFer who'll say he couldn't do anything about what was happening.

If my grandparents are anything to go by, FF still have loads of votes out there. Supposedly, Rathnew is a big FF place too.

spank_inferno · 08-02-2011 03:29PM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Supposedly, Rathnew is a big FF place too.

Rathnew is very small though.
approx 2000 people.

Its also very "rough around the edges"...... oh who am I kidding!... its a hole!

accordingly its less likely to have a larger than normal amount of registered voters and such areas tend to have lower turnouts aswell.

I was very surprised by the boards election poll, this Donnelly guy is way out in front. His policies are a ok.
Wont stand a chance come election day though.

StillWaters · 08-02-2011 09:02PM

My call.....
Timmins
Ferris
Doyle
Roche

Then a dog fight, I wouldn't like to bet on the last seat, its between Harris, C Kavanagh, Brady and Behan.

A very experienced politico told me weeks ago there will be no change in Wicklow this time, i.e.

1 FF
1 Lab
2 FG
1 Ind

spank_inferno · 09-02-2011 08:45PM

StillWaters wrote: »

A very experienced politico told me weeks ago there will be no change in Wicklow this time, i.e.

1 FF
1 Lab
2 FG
1 Ind

I think your pretty much spot on.
Though I think Harris will make it 3 FG TDs at the expense of an independent.

Our last attempt at an independent TD, the dire Mildred Fox has put me off ever voting Independent again.

spank_inferno · 09-02-2011 08:47PM

spank_inferno wrote: »

He's also the only candidate to ever knock on my door.
He spoke for a good while and was very informative.
(I didnt vote for him of course )

I'm going to quote myself.
5 mins ago, who should call to the door, but once again Dick Roche.
He was soaked to the skin.

Its hard to fault his work ethic..... though again I wont be voting for him!

raymon · 09-02-2011 09:09PM

Dick Roche is a terrible politician. Look at these lies

To see him embarassingly tell the foreign press lies about the IMF was embarassing .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSRnZbEHYJg

I hope he doesnt get in !!!

SB-08 · 09-02-2011 09:42PM

raymon wrote: »

Dick Roche is a terrible politician. Look at these lies

To see him embarassingly tell the foreign press lies about the IMF was embarassing .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSRnZbEHYJg

I hope he doesnt get in !!!

Shameful stuff I agree. There was loads of examples of these lies including this - he said there was no basis for Ireland to be aplying to the IMF ot assistance only a matter of days before we did. He said it was nothing more than speculation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eibkol0J3Ns

Dick did more damage than D Ahern with his 'fiction' crap because he denied it on endless international news stations and gave the impression the Irish were in total denial and stupid. For such an educated man - his level of delusion and lack of shame is shocking.

raymon · 09-02-2011 10:47PM

This is what it sounded like to the outside world :

This man is a clown

Channel 4 : Are the IMF bailing out Ireland ?

Dick Roche : Ooooooh to be shure to be shure theyre not

Channel 4 : But they are in Dublin ?

Dick Roche : Ooooooh diddley idle doo

Channel 4 : You are not making sense

Dick Roche : Ohhh to be shure to be shure you know yourself

Channel 4 : Are you a complete clown ?

Dick Roche : Ah holy god and his saints in heaven have another cup of tea and stop with those auld IMF questions

Bojetta · 11-02-2011 08:53PM

I think wicklow will be a dogfight with 25 candidates fighting for 5 seats

I think that no candidate will reach a quota on the first count and that Anne Ferris (LAB) will be first past the post as her two colleagues will be eliminated around count 7/8

Then Billy Timmons is guaranteed for FG - (West Vote)
Then Andrew Doyle FG for (East Vote) helped by Conal Kavanagh (LAB) Transfers

seat fours and five will be eitherBehan & Harris
or
Roche & Brady

If Joe Behan (IND FF) makes it John Brady (SF) will lose out to Simon Harris (FG)
If Dick Roche (FF) makes it Simon Harris (FG) will lose to John Brady (SF) as brady should pick up a lot of transfers from Behan's working class vote

Wicklow

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