Irish drivers are the worst drivers in europe

Marcus.Aurelius · 05-02-2011 09:55PM

robbie7730 wrote: »

Seen this after i posted a similar reply, i think that hard shoulder undertake move should get an automatic ban. I seen it a few times, imbasils that do it.

I think we can safely discount your opinions, such as they are. :pac:

Would it not be more useful to consider what the poster was actually talking about? Inconsiderate, talentless pigs on the road.

Bruthal · 05-02-2011 10:01PM

Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »

I think we can safely discount your opinions, such as they are. :pac:

Would it not be more useful to consider what the poster was actually talking about? Inconsiderate, talentless pigs on the road.

So overtaking in the hard shoulder is good driving is it, discount what you like.

Noodleworm · 05-02-2011 10:03PM

Im not sure if drivers are worst after visiting Latvia...
terrifying overtaking and speed on those country roads...

Marcus.Aurelius · 05-02-2011 10:04PM

robbie7730 wrote: »

So overtaking in the hard shoulder is good driving is it, discount what you like.

Did I say that? Driving like a pig and holding people up just shows how talentless and selfish these people are. I think undertaking on single lane roads is silly, personally I would never attempt it, but I sympathise with the driver who did, it's incredibly frustrating how piggish Irish drivers are.

Bruthal · 05-02-2011 10:12PM

Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »

Did I say that? Driving like a pig and holding people up just shows how talentless and selfish these people are. I think undertaking on single lane roads is silly, personally I would never attempt it, but I sympathise with the driver who did, it's incredibly frustrating how piggish Irish drivers are.

Well since you obviously think your a talented driver, most people`s talents include a measure of dicipline and patients, not losing the head and performing very dangerous moves on the road. Other drivers lesser abilities at driving in bad driving conditions as the poster put it himself, can not be used as an excuse for others to drive in a manner that endangers other road users by overtaking in hard shoulders. Some day you might be old and still driving, or have you discounted that also?

And as for asking "did i say that" well you did, i said the overtaking in the hard shoulder was for imbasils, but you said you can discount my comment. Now if you discount it then your saying my comment is wrong, but above you say "did i say that". So which is it?

baldymac · 05-02-2011 10:20PM

robbie7730 wrote: »

Seen this after i posted a similar reply, i think that hard shoulder undertake move should get an automatic ban. I seen it a few times, imbasils that do it.

you have to undertake if the idiots wont pull in or even worst going slow in the fast lane, woman an middles aged men fecking sunday drivers.

Bruthal · 05-02-2011 10:28PM

baldymac wrote: »

you have to undertake if the idiots wont pull in or even worst going slow in the fast lane, woman an middles aged men fecking sunday drivers.

I was saying about overtaking in the hard shoulder, not the driving lane on a dual carriageway when someone is blocking the overtaking lane(its not a fast lane). I get just as frustrated as others in them situations, but i dont resort to that hard shoulder move, its shocking. I seen fellas doing it to pass trucks, a car in front of the truck could now pull into the hard shoulder to stop for any reason, and the talented hard shoulder driver would slam into him now.

And why do you have to undertake in a hard shoulder? Its an essential task to pass every other driver on the road thats too slow for you is it?

baldymac · 05-02-2011 10:47PM

well i would never undertake a truck if i knew something maybe in front of it thats just stupid, i mean if a car does not pull in after u beep an flash the driver an the car is goin 60 kmh on a 100kmh road on the cork mallow road, i will under take, then final beep and im off.

ive driving on the mallow road alot an some dont even know that they are even in the fast lane

GizAGoOfYerGee · 05-02-2011 10:53PM

Spanish drivers are atrocious here. They drive way too fast through city streets and break red lights all the time.

Another thing that fecks me right off here: Mopeds and scooters driving on the fecking footpath!

Bruthal · 05-02-2011 10:59PM

baldymac wrote: »

well i would never undertake a truck if i knew something maybe in front of it thats just stupid, i mean if a car does not pull in after u beep an flash the driver an the car is goin 60 kmh on a 100kmh road on the cork mallow road, i will under take, then final beep and im off.

ive driving on the mallow road alot an some dont even know that they are even in the fast lane

Well i actually think drivers that beep at everyone is a bit silly as well, id say that is an overtaking lane rather than a fast lane, i dont know the road, are you undertaking into the hard shoulder, or the left lane of a 2 lane road?

McNulty737 · 05-02-2011 11:02PM

Try driving in Spain or Italy. The biggest problem we have is crap roads, a lack of dual carriages and motorways and therefore getting forever stuck behind incompetent drivers.

And as for asking "did i say that" well you did, i said the overtaking in the hard shoulder was for imbasils, but you said you can discount my comment. Now if you discount it then your saying my comment is wrong, but above you say "did i say that". So which is it?

It takes an imbecile to spell imbecile as 'imbasil'.

Bruthal · 05-02-2011 11:05PM

McNulty737 wrote: »

Try driving in Spain or Italy. The biggest problem we have is crap roads, a lack of dual carriages and motorways and therefore getting forever stuck behind incompetent drivers.

It takes an imbecile to spell imbecile as 'imbasil'.

Does it?

Let me see now...

McNulty737 wrote: »

When i was a kid, the tv broke on christmas eve the year i finally got a megadrive. TV repairman unable to show up until around the 30th or so....no christmas time tv and no megadrive, absoltuely devasting for a ten year old, still havent fully recovered all these years later.

Be careful being a grammer/spelling cop unless your perfect yourself.

Bruthal · 05-02-2011 11:22PM

McNulty737 wrote: »

Try driving in Spain or Italy. The biggest problem we have is crap roads, a lack of dual carriages and motorways and therefore getting forever stuck behind incompetent drivers.

Besides my obvious stupidity because of spelling, its a good point you have:rolleyes:

GizAGoOfYerGee · 05-02-2011 11:29PM

McNulty737 wrote: »

Try driving in Spain or Italy. The biggest problem we have is crap roads, a lack of dual carriages and motorways and therefore getting forever stuck behind incompetent drivers.

Spain has a far, far superior road and rail network than Ireland. They are 20 years ahead of us.

Ireland doesn't even have plans for high-speed rail yet, and the majority of our motorways are relatively new. Dublin to Cork is now far quicker by bus than train.

Dublin is still ranked as the worst EU capital for public transport. Metro North and DART Underground, both very important projects, are continuously shot down and rubbished by the typical Irish, backward attitude to 21st century progress.

gsxr1 · 05-02-2011 11:58PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Stuck behind some old one this evening for almost thirty minutes in heavy rain and pretty poor driving weather, no way would he/she go above 60km/h on an N road plus about three morons behind who absolutely refused to overtake.

I got so frustrated and after a few flashes of the headlights to move over nothing so I undertook the whole lot of them up the hard shoulder to much fan fare from the horns of said morons. Yes I was wrong however were they not also wrong for holding up the entire road? I could not overtake as there was no clear run with oncoming traffic

They turned a 45min journey into a 65min one. I firmly believe there should be a minimum speed limit.

I cant even believe you even wrote this.

You could have killed someone with your stupid move.

You really should adjust your way of thinking before you kill a family on their way home from school.

If I witnessed that move I assure you, i would have had the Garda at your door the next day. Silly boy:rolleyes:

sh1tstirrer · 06-02-2011 12:00AM

baldymac wrote: »

ive driving on the mallow road alot an some dont even know that they are even in the fast lane

And you don't know that it is an overtaking lane even though you have been told by a few posters on here.

Stinicker · 06-02-2011 01:02AM

gsxr1 wrote: »

I cant even believe you even wrote this.

You could have killed someone with your stupid move.

You really should adjust your way of thinking before you kill a family on their way home from school.

If I witnessed that move I assure you, i would have had the Garda at your door the next day. Silly boy:rolleyes:

Yes I undertook but it was not I whom was causing the problem. I normally am much better behaved on the road but there comes a time when you cannot take some of the crap other drivers force you to endure, driving at between 55 to 60km/h on the same sort of road would get you pulled over in several other countries.

First of all it is a National Road and I drive it several times a week and know the road, I performed my manoeuvre along a piece of road which is perfectly straight for almost a kilometre and I had sufficient visibility, also the road is new and well surfaced and has no entrances to one off houses or side roads along it and the hard shoulder as wide as a driving lane, matter of fact the same stretch was highlighted in another thread here somewhere as one of several roads that could easily be upgraded to a 2x2 only to reline the road and add the cheese wire barrier.

The drivers in front who were creating the hold up were almost hugging the white line and you could take a artic up inside them, had they kept left and closer to the yellow lines I could actually have squeezed up outside them without ever crossing into the oncoming lane. After about 25 mins of gentle patience hoping they might turn off into a junction or be polite and use the hard shoulder for a few minutes, I gave a flash of the headlights to see if they would get the message and move over as the same stretch of road is very wide, oncoming traffic made overtaking a non runner so I just undertook them.

Quite a large amount of our non-Motorway National roads have been built very wide over the years and the retro-fitting of overtaking lanes say every 8 kilometres would really enhance their value and help reduce road accidents over time as well as make the roads useful allowing normal drivers to keep a steady pace of 95 -100km/h besides having to drive at speeds some else thinks is fine for the road.

Having driven in similar roads in Australia last year they have overtaking lanes and in between them signs "Next overtaking lane in 4kms" etc. So if you are caught in behind that numpty who is oblivious to anything outside their own cocoon you have an easier and safer option to overtaking plus and it is a big factor, you know where you stand, ok I can get around him in 4 clicks no worries, as of here, you are like jeez, will this a-hole ever move over, will I ever get the opportunity to overtake him etc. It really takes alot of the stress out of it. Like OK, if a person wants to drive slower, no problems however be polite about it and be courteous and allow other drivers some leeway too.

littledevillee · 06-02-2011 01:06AM

I sometimes wonder if Irish drivers have ever bothered to study the Driver Theory book and the Rules of the Road?
It doesnt look like it but both contain useful information. By the way the Gardai should have a look at it as well i.e.: fog lights only in fog, no mobile phone while driving, do not park on the footpath or on the double yellow line, etc.

There are so many bad drivers out there who had won their full licence in the 80ies with the amnesty. With many years of what they call driving experience they regard themself as excelent drivers. They even think they're qualified to teach their young ones!

That's how more bad drivers are produced.

"Nervous" Women drivers.... I always wonder why are there so many of them in Ireland. I dare to state unproportionaly more than in other countries I've be traveling in.
Well, someone tought them how to drive. Is that what made them nervous drivers?

Must be.

Everyone I spoke to about how bad Irish drivers are totally agrees with me. Where are the bad ones? I have never met just one who would have put up their hand and said, yes, that's me.

With the new system of obligatory lessons all of this might improve but only in many years to come.
I find it quite relaxing to drive outside of Ireland, there they know what they do (my favorite is Italy :P ). Bad roads or no bad roads, other countries also have bad roads. Maybe not as many, still.... That's not an excuse for bad road sense or bad road manors.

By the way, a while back I had taken driving lessons to pass a truck driving test. With 5 lessons I had 3 different instructors (same school of motor) and 3 different oppinions how I had to drive to pass the driving test. On the first roundabout I positioned my 12.000 kg truck the way they had instructed me. The tester made a mark on my test sheet right away. That's when I decided to do my own thing (common sense combined with proper driving lessons in a different country years ago) What can I say, I passed with only a few marks on my rap sheet. Had I driven like I was instructed I would have failed.

Now that Instructors have to be ADI certified things hopefully improve there too. Yet from what I hear about the ADI section - Kindergarten of imbeciles...

And so on....

Absurdum · 06-02-2011 01:12AM

haven't read thread, OP is talking bollox

sh1tstirrer · 06-02-2011 01:27AM

littledevillee wrote: »

There are so many bad drivers out there who had won their full licence in the 80ies with the amnesty.

This line comes up here any time there is a bad driving thread. The licences were given out for about a month in the late 70's due to a serious backlog. Not that many drivers got a licence without doing the driving test as you had to have applied for your test. I just want to clear that up for anybody who thinks that driving licences were given out at will.

D1stant · 06-02-2011 01:51AM

Irish drivers?

How do you know they are Irish?

And OP you are wrong. Irish drivers are generally ok.

Try the Med countriers.. Hey open your mind even more and try Tehran and Cairo.

messymess · 06-02-2011 01:56AM

D1stant wrote: »

Irish drivers?

How do you know they are Irish?

And OP you are wrong. Irish drivers a generally ok.

Try the Med countriers.. Hey open your mind even more and try Tehran and Cairo.

Funnily enough I was going to mention Tehran. I was there a few years ago and a driver picked me up from the airport. I literally couldn't believe the **** that he was doing. Trying to cross the road in that city is an is an experience I won't soon forget.

OPENROAD · 06-02-2011 02:00AM

D1stant wrote: »

Irish drivers?

How do you know they are Irish?

And OP you are wrong. Irish drivers a generally ok.

Try the Med countriers.. Hey open your mind even more and try Tehran and Cairo.

Why do Irish drivers in general, and yes, by the law of averages they are likely to be Irish, can't use roundabouts ?

D1stant · 06-02-2011 02:05AM

OPENROAD wrote: »

Why do Irish drivers in general and yes by the laws of averages they are likely to be Irish can't use roundabouts ?

Are you from Tehran? Your Engerlish aint so good

D1stant · 06-02-2011 02:22AM

Nah. Tanks anyway

stoneill · 06-02-2011 04:21AM

The standard of driving in Ireland is not bad, compared to some places, but you do meet one or two bad road users and that tends to colour your view.

My pet hates are:
Drivers who are too slow.
Hogging the outside lane.
Not using indicators on roundabouts.
Using a left turning lane to skip past a queue.
Using bus lanes to skip queue.
Taxi drivers. (A generalisation I know - but I do hate them)
Tailgaters.
Weavers.
Caravans.

Stoolbend · 06-02-2011 04:49AM

XBOX employee wrote: »

Argue all you want but irish drivers are the worst. When im driving on the m50 i see people speeding in and out in lanes not only putting himself at risk but other drivers also.We especially cant drive on bank holiday weekends what the hell is wrong with everyone that they cant stick to a feckin speed limit . I was driving on the m50 and some absolute gob****e sped past me and in the wet i might add apparently we dont beleive in braking distance either , but on the exit i was taking we met at the lights again and me syicking to the limit we got there at the same time therefore there is no point. Are we that stupid as a nation that we disregard our own personal safety and put other peoples loved ones at risk? :mad:

That's weird.

I'm the best driver ever, and I'm Irish.

ch750536 · 06-02-2011 06:42AM

I have driven a lot around Europe. Irish drivers could do 2 simple things to improve the quality of driving:

If you are not overtaking, move to the left.
Be polite, let people in at junctions.

Other than that no issues really.

TwoShedsJackson · 06-02-2011 11:06AM

richieof1 wrote: »

Also when your joining the motorway from a slip road, how many times is the idiot in the left hand lane tatally oblivious and doesnt move accross to let you join.

They're under no obligation whatsoever to do so - the traffic on the motorway has right of way, it's up to you to match speed and find a gap to merge.

Some drivers may move over to let people merge, if they see you, and they can, but they don't have to move over to let you in, they should be monitoring the road ahead of them, not checking the slip road in case they inconvenience someone merging by two seconds.

Mister men · 06-02-2011 11:27AM

I drive for a living and agree Irish drivers are terrible drivers (Audi drivers are the worst) but tbh i've lived all over the World and travelled thoughout Europe and Northern Africa on my motorbike and we are'nt in the top ten worst drivers out there. Not even close.

Irish drivers are the worst drivers in europe

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