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anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Economic hardship always pushes people towards fringe parties due to a feeling of disfranchisement with main stream parties.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Because they offer policies that people want to be implemented.
    Simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭dabestman1


    Im just reading the posts about the apparent links of crime to Aengus o snodaigh, sounds like SF bashiing to me. Anyway, Remember Judge Curtain, caught with Child Porn, ran as a councillor for the PDs and Michael McDowell campaigned for him, so by your logic is Michael McDowell a Paedophile?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    wont vote sinn fein for alot of smart reasons,think they need too mature more politics and get tin the real work,i left this country in 80's ,then as now,was hoping in vain i know that they all pull together for sake of country even for a year as national government where all will work together,but they didnt


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭horgan_p


    Because they're neither FF nor FG


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    sink wrote: »
    Economic hardship always pushes people towards fringe parties due to a feeling of disfranchisement with main stream parties.


    I wouldent say Sinn Fein are a fringe party,They are much bigger than the greens & the now defuct PDs,But i would agree that a lot of people vote for them as a protest vote.imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    Pearse's budget speech got us to sit up and listen! Better than the usual droning liars. Well thats my opinion.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭zig


    because labour/FG have pretty much nothing new to offer thats any different to FF.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Seloth


    In my local town its a SF councilor and his wife that run one of two local news papers and I must say its the biggest load of propaganda Bull**** known to man.

    The Cllr Discussed in this weeks edition in his own large section of how SF are the only true opposition party :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭KylieWyley


    People want radical change.

    The other options represent a status quo, albeit with different colours on their mast.



    IMO, Pearse Doherty has also performed extremely well since winning the by-election and has given SF greater exposure/credibility.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,360 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    slum dog wrote: »
    Alot of people I have run into lately have said they will be voting Sinn Fein. This is an unsual turn of events. Sinn Fein use to be a marginalised party but now everyone Ive met want to see them in government. Why is this?

    Because they dont mention that their plan involves spending the National Pension Reserve Fund several times over (which is not possible but why let that get in the way of a good soundbite).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭KylieWyley


    Seloth wrote: »
    In my local town its a SF councilor and his wife that run one of two local news papers and I must say its the biggest load of propaganda Bull**** known to man.

    The Cllr Discussed in this weeks edition in his own large section of how SF are the only true opposition party :pac:


    Yeah, you'll have that with local 'news'papers anyway. They're usually mouthpieces for local councillors/politicians. This weeks Galway Advertiser had the front page dedicated to why our Labour candidate should be elected to replace Michael D Higgins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭dabestman1


    they have a hard working membership who will look after people not just the rich like some parties. Also I agree, screw the bondholders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭dabestman1


    Seloth wrote: »
    In my local town its a SF councilor and his wife that run one of two local news papers and I must say its the biggest load of propaganda Bull**** known to man.

    The Cllr Discussed in this weeks edition in his own large section of how SF are the only true opposition party :pac:
    the local carlow paper is just a mouthpiece for the now retired MJ Nolan and the greens Mary White, happens all over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭dabestman1


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.
    I presume Brian Lenihan and Brain Cowen were geniuses in Economics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭crebel81


    wont vote sinn fein for alot of smart reasons,think they need too mature more politics and get tin the real work,i left this country in 80's ,then as now,was hoping in vain i know that they all pull together for sake of country even for a year as national government where all will work together,but they didnt


    What are these smart reasons...All the other mainstream parties have been in power before and have failed to make the big "CHANGE"...

    And now they seek your vote so they can now make that change which they promised umpteen times.

    I am seeking change. Fundamental change. I will be voting SINN FEIN!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,360 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    dabestman1 wrote: »
    I presume Brian Lenihan and Brain Cowen were geniuses in Economics.

    They are compared to SF, at least Biffo didnt try to spend the National Pension Reserve Fund twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Brenireland


    no their not the bastards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    dabestman1 wrote: »
    Im just reading the posts about the apparent links of crime to Aengus o snodaigh, sounds like SF bashiing to me. Anyway, Remember Judge Curtain, caught with Child Porn, ran as a councillor for the PDs and Michael McDowell campaigned for him, so by your logic is Michael McDowell a Paedophile?
    Well ignoring the temporal order of events in the Curtin case (which you obviously do) there is a broader issue here on this thread and more generally with respect to SF supporters.

    Like the rest of us, they look at the bad behaviour of some politicians, many in FF, and are happy to criticise them before any court or tribunal finds against them.

    But if anybody points to anything suspicious in the past of SF politicians we will be told one or more of the following .

    1. Stop dragging up the past. We should look forward, not back.
    2. There is no proof of these slanderous allegations you are making
    3. This is just SF bashing

    Sauce for both the goose and gander and all that


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    I'd guess because a lot of younger people don't remember the Sinn Fein/IRA terrorist campaign and the innocent deaths it entailed. And they don't realise the disaster that socialist government brought to half of Europe and elsewhere. Basically if you didn't watch the news before 1994, the Shinners seem like a normal political party and their policies look plausible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭zig


    Pete_Cavan wrote: »
    They are compared to SF, at least Biffo didnt try to spend the National Pension Reserve Fund twice.
    true, he just dumped it into a dead bank instead


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Jim236


    I'd guess because a lot of younger people don't remember the Sinn Fein/IRA terrorist campaign and the innocent deaths it entailed. And they don't realise the disaster that socialist government brought to half of Europe and elsewhere. Basically if you didn't watch the news before 1994, the Shinners seem like a normal political party and their policies look plausible.

    ffs here we go again...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 117 ✭✭Xclusiv Barber


    dabestman1 wrote: »
    Im just reading the posts about the apparent links of crime to Aengus o snodaigh, sounds like SF bashiing to me. Anyway, Remember Judge Curtain, caught with Child Porn, ran as a councillor for the PDs and Michael McDowell campaigned for him, so by your logic is Michael McDowell a Paedophile?

    ah yes... Mr michael doo well. Isn't he the chap whose grandad eoin somethin (any help here wit surname?) turned and fled during the easter rising. By the why thats rhetorical, yes he fled. F***ed if i can think of his surname


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    slum dog wrote: »
    Alot of people I have run into lately have said they will be voting Sinn Fein. This is an unsual turn of events. Sinn Fein use to be a marginalised party but now everyone Ive met want to see them in government. Why is this?

    Maby because FF/FG are criminal traitors??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭zig


    I'd guess because a lot of younger people don't remember the Sinn Fein/IRA terrorist campaign and the innocent deaths it entailed. And they don't realise the disaster that socialist government brought to half of Europe and elsewhere. Basically if you didn't watch the news before 1994, the Shinners seem like a normal political party and their policies look plausible.
    the rising and the war of independence was vastly unpopular as well im afraid, many of them went on to be politicians, but I guess thats history so its ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Brenireland


    Jim236 wrote: »
    ffs here we go again...

    you sir,have also voted in the GE Election Poll.
    which party got no.1 vote?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    ... including the two previous Ministers for Finance. The writing was on the wall for them seven years ago but they couldn't read it and proved it several times over since.

    No, Cowen-Lenihan haven't tried to spend the pension fund twice - they've taken out a 100 year mortgage instead and spent three generations' worth of income instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    dabestman1 wrote: »
    Im just reading the posts about the apparent links of crime to Aengus o snodaigh, sounds like SF bashiing to me. Anyway, Remember Judge Curtain, caught with Child Porn, ran as a councillor for the PDs and Michael McDowell campaigned for him, so by your logic is Michael McDowell a Paedophile?

    The difference is Judge Brian curtain's crimes occured after he ran for office and Michael Mc Dowell as Justice minister moved an impeachment motion against him.

    There is no comparison with this and having, to what any rational person looks like a group of campaign workers, being caught in possession of CS gas, stun guns, fake Garda uniforms rtc.

    I have not accused Aengus O Snoadaigh of any crime. An IRA active service unit just happened to be giving him a hand with his electoral campaign.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭Jim236


    you sir,have also voted in the GE Election Poll.
    which party got no.1 vote?

    Thats irrelevant. Can we not have 1 topic about Sinn Féin without it turning into another IRA whataboutery thread?


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