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Prisoner on hunger strike

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  • #32
    Alter-Ego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Bet he's sneaking pop tarts and doritos in.

    Anyway, take him out back and shoot him. Waste of space scum.


  • #33
    KeithAFC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Buy him a book on the history of the British empire, that will finish him off.


  • #34
    Riddle101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Einhard wrote: »
    Context can play a part, but doesn't really come into it in liberal democracies, governed by the rule of law.

    Hunger strikes are not an effective tool in truly oppressive countries, for the simple fact that the regime doesn't care whether you live or die, and likely or not, would kill you themselves.

    That all depends. While a hunger strike might not be effective against regimes in oppresive countries, they can certainly work on a motivational level in the public's eye. Take the case during of the three hunger strikers(Can't remember their names) after the 1916 Rising, who went on hunger to get political status. One of them died from being forcefed, and the public was very sympathetic to their cause, it certainly changed a lot of peoples opinions, and might even have encouraged people to join the Irish Volunteers as well.

    However this is different. If the guy he dies it's not really a loss. But I'm sure there will proberly be a lot of complaints made about how the authorities dealt with the situation from some people.


  • #35
    Fratton Fred
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    Where's Maggie when you need her?


  • #36
    MaybeLogic
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    sensibleken wrote: »
    Why is he especially a scumbag? What is he protesting about?

    He's such a scumbag, the other scumbags don't want anything to do with him.

    He puts the scum in to scumbags.

    Seriously though, I'm from the same town, and this guy is a genuinely rotten apple.

    As to why he's protesting, I'm not sure, but, I'd imagine it's to do with being found guilty of membership, with a relative lack of evidence.


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  • #37
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    MaybeLogic wrote: »
    He's such a scumbag, the other scumbags don't want anything to do with him.

    He puts the scum in to scumbags.

    Seriously though, I'm from the same town, and this guy is a genuinely rotten apple.

    As to why he's protesting, I'm not sure, but, I'd imagine it's to do with being found guilty of membership, with a relative lack of evidence.

    what did he do? rape a bonobo, huarang an episcopalian, steal a kiss?


  • #38
    MaybeLogic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MaybeLogic


    sensibleken wrote: »
    what did he do? rape a bonobo, huarang an episcopalian, steal a kiss?

    What did he do, apart from what he was found guilty with?


  • #39
    PeteEd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭PeteEd


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Read this today..... Apparently the man in question is a right scumbag even among republican circles(he was thrown off of the republican wing by republicans, as far as I can tell for being a scumbag and a criminal in their eyes), but it got me thinking, what should be done with people on hunger strikes?

    Its certainly an emotive issue.....

    Move him to Maghaberry and beat the sh1te out of him while he is starving

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056151907


  • #40
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    MaybeLogic wrote: »
    What did he do, apart from what he was found guilty with?

    yes. he was found guilty of being in the RA, fair enough instant scum status. but this guy aparantly has some extra scumy mystique that led him to a life of exile and (presumably) bad emo poetry


  • #41
    MaybeLogic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭MaybeLogic


    sensibleken wrote: »
    yes. he was found guilty of being in the RA, fair enough instant scum status. but this guy aparantly has some extra scumy mystique that led him to a life of exile and (presumably) bad emo poetry

    The poetry was bad enough, but it was the scummy flower arranging that really brought him down in my eyes.


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  • #42
    Rawhead
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Rawhead


    I know how they used to deal with the "dirty protesters"

    A man will stay in a cell covered in his own sh1te for years.

    A man will stay in a cell covered in someone else's sh1te for 5 minutes.

    They would just swap the prisoners around in each others cells, broke them every time.

    The reality is that there is bugger all you can do against a determined hunger striker, the only thing the state has to give them is fresh water and salt.

    The state has not conceded yet on a hunger strike and we are fcuked if they decide to start. You will have kiddy fiddlers going on hunger strike for access to pics of kids.


  • #43
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Hunger strikes are sooo 70's, facebook campaigns are where the protest power lies these days.


  • #44
    Red Hand
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    I don't care what you say but the Bobby Sands weight loss diet is great for shifting those pounds.


  • #45
    Dr. Jonathan Crane
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    Let him starve.

    Sounds like more trouble than he's worth.


  • #46
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Ah yes, the Irish judicial system, the opinion of a copper is considered real evidence. 'tis a great little country altogether.


  • #47
    Wolfe Tone
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    MaybeLogic wrote: »
    He's such a scumbag, the other scumbags don't want anything to do with him.

    He puts the scum in to scumbags.

    Seriously though, I'm from the same town, and this guy is a genuinely rotten apple.

    As to why he's protesting, I'm not sure, but, I'd imagine it's to do with being found guilty of membership, with a relative lack of evidence.
    Apparently he is striking in order to get back onto the republican landing! Thats a rumor at this stage though.


  • #48
    Ebbs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Ebbs


    Eh.. I think the lad has his history a tad bit wrong.

    The orginal hunger strikers went on strike so that they would be recognised as political prisioners, and maybe not beaten/humiated as much as they were. In my eyes, a just cause.

    He however is saying he is not taking part in IRA funding, hence is just a normal criminal. And not worthy of special treatment.

    So whats the aim of his hunger strike? Surely eaiser ways to kill oneself.


  • #49
    Sean Quagmire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Sean Quagmire


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Give a man a fish, you feed him once.
    Teach a man how to fish...you...you won't teach the man again.

    There's an old saying in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says, fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me...a fool can't get fooled again.


  • #50
    Bottle_of_Smoke
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    david75 wrote: »
    He's trying to wrap the green flag around himself and evoke Bobby Sands and those lads who actually did starve themselves to death for a higher aim. Theirs was a truly noble cause, to point out British maltreatment of Catholics in Prisons in NI and in NI generally. That worked 'cos it got the worlds media onto it. This is just a knob jockey. Leave him to it. He won't go all the way.

    Why have people started thinking that was a goal of Sinn Fein and the IRA?

    Members of those organisations generally won't even utter the words "Northern Ireland" and instead say "the north", "the six counties" etc

    SF and IRA was never about civil rights, it was about the reunificiation of Ireland and the prisoners were protesting over not being recognised as prisoners of war.


  • #51
    RobHill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭RobHill


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Cake:confused:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZVjKlBCvhg

    Tenuous link but funny nonetheless


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  • #52
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    but it got me thinking, what should be done with people on hunger strikes?

    Its certainly an emotive issue.....

    Well hunger strikes are a very ancient form of protest, and particulary so in Ireland.

    So yea, I support the right of a man to starve himself in the hope of righting a wrong.. If he starves to death, and the wrong is proven afterwards it brings great shame to the person or people he was protesting against..

    Tbh, I didn't read about this particular case.. Because I'm going to listen to The Ballad of Joe McDonald before I have my dinner.


  • #53
    Orando Broom
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    Hadcuff him to Zaytoons. Lets test this knaves mettle.


  • #54
    PK2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Ah the good aul PIRA.....

    ....what ever happened to those murdering scumbags?


  • #55
    KamiKazeKitten
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    Pump smell of baking bread, cakes etc into his cell.
    Handcuff him and put trays of food right in front him, where he can't reach them.
    Hold his nose til he opens his mouth, then shove the food in.


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