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Demons Souls

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,104 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    i spent ages getting back to the last point on the bridge in 1-2 and lost a load of souls twice. never went back to it after that (even though someone suggested i should have tried a different level first)

    Well there's your problem right there. 1-2 is definitely not a level you should try at low levels. It's quite tough and there are no shortcuts. You should have started with 2-1 and 3-1 and gotten the magic and balcksmith benefits of both those stages and a few level ups before attempting 1-2. No point blaming the game when you played it wrong and it gave you the choice to pick other levels.

    Also FFVII and Demon's Souls are totally different games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    I think I'm on 112 hours so far and I'm just on 1-4 at
    the bottom of the stairs with the dragon at the top
    evey other level and section completed.

    And I have to say thank **** for that, have found this game to be tough but almost any accomplishment is a "punch in the air moment" as it's a tough ****er to do.

    I must be barmy but I'm considering going through again, well once I've got past this bit and sorted everyone after it out...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,104 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    1-4 is a whore of a level with a nasty boss with the nastiest attack in the game (it levels you down!) so good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Finish it and try the next playthrough and prepare for a surprise. As for 1-4 go with 1 or 2 blue phantoms, the boss is dead easy then, he can't seem to handle multiple targets. what drove me mad about 1-4 was battling the dragon and then all of a sudden you get XXXXX has invaded your world.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Noffles wrote: »
    I must be barmy but I'm considering going through again, well once I've got past this bit and sorted everyone after it out...

    NG+,
    The gap between NG and NG+ is more (around 200%), but each subsequent NG+ is only 8% more life from there.

    Heh, heh, heh...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭johnny_adidas


    A door opened to the next section. Forgive me for playin the game 'wrong', I must've missed the signs on the wall saying dont go this way until you do bla bla bla


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    im sorry but this is just bull. There is no way anyone can pick this game up for the first time and get through it in an hour. Sure even talking to the first few people in the nexus takes 10 mins. Maybe if you stick to a playthrough guide or possibly know the game inside out before you start but I prefer to play a game myself, not copy someone else's game, where's the fun in that.

    Sorry, meant to put a ":p" in my previous post. Wasn't trying to be smart.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,104 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    A door opened to the next section. Forgive me for playin the game 'wrong', I must've missed the signs on the wall saying dont go this way until you do bla bla bla

    Well we did warn you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    damn it, i feel like Cartman outside gamestop, waiting for nintendo Wii...

    " COme on....... Come on........ "

    Got message, that its dispatched... hopefully i will get it this week!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭penev10


    Can only agree with those saying how rewarding an experience this game can be.

    The character building element is deeper than any game I've come accross. Having spent 40 hours on my first playthough as a Magic based character I went back and started again with a melee build (of which there are many!) and enjoyed it on an entirely new level (the bosses, for one, are such a different proposition and require entirely new tactics - Melee the Flamelurker anyone!:P).

    I then went on and played NG+ with both characters and I got a whole new challenge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    Finish it and try the next playthrough and prepare for a surprise. As for 1-4 go with 1 or 2 blue phantoms, the boss is dead easy then, he can't seem to handle multiple targets. what drove me mad about 1-4 was battling the dragon and then all of a sudden you get XXXXX has invaded your world.

    Cool, cheers for that... I'm finding it hard getting up the stairs though with the fire breath, any tips?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Ring of flame resistance and cast water veil to bump up your fire resistance, make sure your armour is light enough to be able to run at full speed and its just a case of timing after that. If you have the old kings armour or the binded set armour, use them they're light and have pretty good fire res. If you learned 2nd chance it comes in handy too.

    BTW you know you can kill the dragon, once you get under his ark of fire, hit R3 to target and bow him or soul srrow him to death. you'll need a bucketload of arrows\spices to get him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Brilliant game, I feel like typing a massive rant about how awesome this game is and how silly people are for not giving it a chance but Retro and the likes have already said everything that needs to be said.

    Its not as hard as people think, but if your a feckin eejit and dive head 1st at all the enemies button mashing away like I see so many people do when I click blood stains.... your gonna get killed fast, and its your own fault.


    Funnily enough, I always tend to get really far when I 1st play a level. Its because I dunno what's around the next corner and I'm playing with full concentration and caution. I'd often get very close to the end, then die for whatever reason. And its THEN that I start dying more often in that level cause I start trying to rush back to where I was. Not taking enemies seriously enough etc.

    Just recently those big giant trolls on level 5-2. I kicked their asses on my 1st encounter with them cause I took them very seriously.

    It was only later when I was trying to get back to where I was that I realised how powerful they are, one shot killing me with their clubs. (I never got hit the 1st time)

    Anyway, I'm level 70 at the moment and I'm starting to fear I'm missing out on a lot of the online.

    I can never seem to be able to invade anyones world. Only once did I get a message saying someones invaded mine only for a message to appear 2 mins later saying he was dead some how....

    I've helped people out a couple of times in soul form. Only once have I encountered a message letting me ask someone to my world.

    I know online itself is working since messages , peoples ghosts and bloodstaines are all working.

    I imagine this is to do with how late I've gotten the game compared to everyone else who seemed to be playing it back in 2009.

    (I've since read this whole thread after getting the game, seeing posts by people saying they wanna play in offline cause so many people are invading them and I'm like wtf? :confused: )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    Anyone else keep losing connection to Demon's Souls server?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    finally played that boss I kept hearing about that a player takes over its body.

    I beat the guy and was happy that my 1st time fighting the boss I was able to beat him.

    But the fight itself was disappointing. Was really messy and random, mainly due to lag. I'd be getting hit by melee damage even though I had dodged him and I'd be hitting him when he's visually not in range of my sword.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    just got in mail today, was nicely surprised when came back home from work.


    played 2 hours, and it was prety cool. Love the messeges, i love even more to give false ones lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    Completed it on Sunday, delighted to do it as well... what a twat of a game but rare do I feel i have actually accomplished somehting when completing a game... 115 hours to do it in the end... may consider doing it again with a different character, maybe the fella without any armour..

    All in all... BRILLIANT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    mine arrived today, that felt like an age.

    Should have got a spare controller with it, I think I'm going to need it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    ntlbell wrote: »
    mine arrived today, that felt like an age.

    Should have got a spare controller with it, I think I'm going to need it.

    Spare window will come in handy too for when you try to throw the controller through it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    So where's the best place to buy this, is it available in shops or do you have to get it online? The reviews are so good I'm tempted but I've never come across it in a shop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    rickyjb wrote: »
    So where's the best place to buy this, is it available in shops or do you have to get it online? The reviews are so good I'm tempted but I've never come across it in a shop

    you can get it now for like 14GBP on zavvi, bargain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    ntlbell wrote: »
    you can get it now for like 14GBP on zavvi, bargain.

    Just got a rush of blood to the head and went ahead and bought it there, hadn't even heard of the game til an hour ago!:)

    19 euros delivered from zavvi, seems ok to me thanks ntlbell...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,104 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭penev10


    rickyjb wrote: »
    Just got a rush of blood to the head and went ahead and bought it there, hadn't even heard of the game til an hour ago!:)

    19 euros delivered from zavvi, seems ok to me thanks ntlbell...

    To repeat a famous video game quote of old:
    "Welcome to your Doom!!!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    rickyjb wrote: »
    Just got a rush of blood to the head and went ahead and bought it there, hadn't even heard of the game til an hour ago!:)

    19 euros delivered from zavvi, seems ok to me thanks ntlbell...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    rickyjb wrote: »
    So where's the best place to buy this, is it available in shops or do you have to get it online? The reviews are so good I'm tempted but I've never come across it in a shop

    got my one from zavvi, but expect to wait about 2 weaks for delevery m8. ather then that WELL WORTH IT! My misses is not in to gaming, but she loves to watch me play it!

    i got a question to lads here now as i am prety new to game.

    those classes in beggining do make any difference? or is it just preset skill points? lets say i chose knight, but i prefer some ather stuff now, can i just pump up ather stats instead? Or do i get something unique by choosing initial class.

    ather question would be about melee, i love idea of it, but looks like in moust seriuos places, bosses and bigger enemies, magic is the way to go and is more efficieant... is there still point in doing heavy melee class? as at bosses i encounteres so far, only proper option was magic.

    cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭penev10


    The starting character doesn't make any difference in terms of potential growth/abilities etc. Some startign characters are better balanced than others for tackling the first few levels though.

    Some bosses are easier to melee some more susceptible to magic. I've beaten it with both types (athough in fairness there are many types of build, it's more to do with the stats/equipment you use than a straight magic or melee) and couldn't say one was easier than the other. If you do go for melee make sure you get a decent bow as ranged attacks can be essential at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    got my one from zavvi, but expect to wait about 2 weaks for delevery m8. ather then that WELL WORTH IT! My misses is not in to gaming, but she loves to watch me play it!

    cheers

    2 weeks, they said in the confirmation email it should ship within 24 hours!:eek:
    Hopefully it won't be that long.

    Haha, here's hoping my gf will also enjoy watching me play it, I'm not holding out much hope though:)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    rickyjb wrote: »
    2 weeks, they said in the confirmation email it should ship within 24 hours!:eek:
    Hopefully it won't be that long.

    Haha, here's hoping my gf will also enjoy watching me play it, I'm not holding out much hope though:)

    They got stock in. You'll get your game quickly.
    I remember when ShadowHearth ordered his copy, the site had "usually dispatches in a week".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    rickyjb wrote: »
    2 weeks, they said in the confirmation email it should ship within 24 hours!:eek:
    Hopefully it won't be that long.

    Haha, here's hoping my gf will also enjoy watching me play it, I'm not holding out much hope though:)
    Just had a good session. Omg we were bouth screaming, as i killed big bastord spider boss with a spell, had no more arrows no more med herbs, i was one blow away from death! And i killed it!!! You shoud hear as roar lol! She is giving me advices now all the tine lol. Hardcore games ftw!

    On game now, i cleared up to third portal in that first zone, but when i try to continue and enter fog it says somethinh about it being too thick, and that i need to kill archsomething... Any clues?!


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Just had a good session. Omg we were bouth screaming, as i killed big bastord spider boss witj a spell, woth no more arrows no more med herbs, i was one blow away from death! And i killed it!!! You shoud hear as roar lol! She is govibg me advices now all the tine lol. Hardcore games ftw!

    On game now, i cleared up to third portal in that first zone, but when i try to continue and enter fog it says somethinh about it being too thick, and that i need to kill archsomething... Any clues?!

    Let this be your guide, http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    On game now, i cleared up to third portal in that first zone, but when i try to continue and enter fog it says somethinh about it being too thick, and that i need to kill archsomething... Any clues?!

    YOu need to clear another world before you can proceed. 1-3 is a big step up in difficulty and invasion central.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    YOu need to clear another world before you can proceed. 1-3 is a big step up in difficulty and invasion central.

    Ah cheers, sorry for spelling and wrong letters in words. As i typed that from phone, keyboard cam be very nasty sometimes. Ill try to correct all of that at home tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    F1ngers wrote: »
    They got stock in. You'll get your game quickly.
    I remember when ShadowHearth ordered his copy, the site had "usually dispatches in a week".

    Yeah just checked it there and the "estimated dispatch date" is today. Be great if it came tomorrow in time for the weekend...

    So from what I've read you don't tackle the worlds or whatever they are in sequential order, after you finish 1-1 you don't necessarily go to 1-2 is that right?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    rickyjb wrote: »
    So from what I've read you don't tackle the worlds or whatever they are in sequential order, after you finish 1-1 you don't necessarily go to 1-2 is that right?

    Correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Any tips for increasing white world tendency?

    I've only a couple bosses to kill before I complete the game but I wanna get the key to let that guy out of his prision cell (think its 3-1) from what I understand I need full white tendency for a path to open up on 3-2 for me to get the key.

    I'm pretty sure I'm +2 white tendency on the world as it is glowing but obviously I need to go up one more as the path is never open.

    So I'm just kinda standing around like a knob, tried to help people by putting down a stone to be summoned but I keep turning into that boss instead and end up constantly killing people as the boss, have yet to be taken down.

    Can't help but wonder if thats hurting my white tendency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    It shouldn'nt affect your WT. Have you completed world 3, if so, PWWT is next to impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    F1ngers wrote: »
    They got stock in. You'll get your game quickly.
    I remember when ShadowHearth ordered his copy, the site had "usually dispatches in a week".

    Got an email from Zavvi to say "Your order from zavvi has been dispatched and will be with you shortly!"

    Delighted, until I saw this table further down:

    Quantity Title Price Each Estimated Delivery Time 1 Demon's Souls EUR 17.95 10-15 days* * Most items arrive within the estimated delivery time. If you have not received your item in this time, don't worry as delays do occasionally occur. We ask you to wait 10 working days for UK deliveries and 20 working days for overseas deliveries before you contact us to let us know you have not received your item.

    Now I'm not so delighted. Oh well...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,104 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Usually find games from zavvi take a little over a week to arrive. If it's shipped on monday you will get it the following monday or tuesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    rickyjb wrote: »
    Got an email from Zavvi to say "Your order from zavvi has been dispatched and will be with you shortly!"

    Delighted, until I saw this table further down:

    Quantity Title Price Each Estimated Delivery Time 1 Demon's Souls EUR 17.95 10-15 days* * Most items arrive within the estimated delivery time. If you have not received your item in this time, don't worry as delays do occasionally occur. We ask you to wait 10 working days for UK deliveries and 20 working days for overseas deliveries before you contact us to let us know you have not received your item.

    Now I'm not so delighted. Oh well...

    I think they just do that to set expectations. As retr0 said they usually come 4-5 working days after it's dispatached.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Are the demons souls servers generally reliable? I'm having lots of problems trying to connect trying to figure out if it's the ps3 or the servers or what


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    ntlbell wrote: »
    Are the demons souls servers generally reliable? I'm having lots of problems trying to connect trying to figure out if it's the ps3 or the servers or what

    yep, I tend to get logged out after 1 hour or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    I think I seriously underestimated how hard this was! 4 hours in still in the palace :o


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    ntlbell wrote: »
    I think I seriously underestimated how hard this was! 4 hours in still in the palace :o

    Nearly quarter of the way to the first boss...:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    yep, I tend to get logged out after 1 hour or so.
    dont know, i dont get any problems with connection...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    It shouldn'nt affect your WT. Have you completed world 3, if so, PWWT is next to impossible.

    wtf why?

    I'm pretty sure I have beaten it since I beat that boss a player can take control of. (havnt played the game in a week now , don't wanna go any further till I get pure white tendency on that world - dunno wtf to do)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    So it arrived from Zavvi today, pretty quick.

    It's definitely a strange one but maybe not as stupidly hard as I was anticipating. I think I killed a boss, does that mean I'm in 1-2 now? Seemed like the same level but I got a demon's soul so I presumed that means I finished something.

    Tutorial was weird, where is that part of it set? The big ogre thing hit me one serious slap and I died and then ended up in the Nexus place or whatever it's called, how do I get back to fight him again?

    Really annoying the way you lose all your souls when you die, I had loads (well it seemed like loads) and a dragon grabbed me. Should I go back to do another level or something? I think they were locked the last time I was there though. And how do you level up??


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    rickyjb wrote: »
    It's definitely a strange one but maybe not as stupidly hard as I was anticipating. I think I killed a boss, does that mean I'm in 1-2 now? Seemed like the same level but I got a demon's soul so I presumed that means I finished something.

    You beat Phalanx? He had a load of minions crawling on/around him.
    rickyjb wrote: »
    Tutorial was weird, where is that part of it set? The big ogre thing hit me one serious slap and I died and then ended up in the Nexus place or whatever it's called, how do I get back to fight him again?

    You do, in the Shrine of Storms.
    rickyjb wrote: »
    Really annoying the way you lose all your souls when you die, I had loads (well it seemed like loads) and a dragon grabbed me. Should I go back to do another level or something? I think they were locked the last time I was there though. And how do you level up??

    When you die and drop your souls, it's really important that you retrieve them. You use the souls you collect to level up in the Nexus(Maiden in Black).

    You can start to level up when you beat the Phananx and return to the Nexus.

    Here is a guide, very helpful.

    http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Sisko wrote: »
    wtf why?

    I'm pretty sure I have beaten it since I beat that boss a player can take control of. (havnt played the game in a week now , don't wanna go any further till I get pure white tendency on that world - dunno wtf to do)

    Lets says PWWT is 7 points. WT can only be moved 4 ways, beating bosses or invading black phantoms, seeing as you've finished the world you can't kill anymre bosses and phantoms can't invade your world anymore. The 2 remaining are beating the black phantom of that world(WT+3) or the primevil demon(WT+3), however to encounter them you need pure black WT which works out as 0, PWWT is around 7 points from PBWT. Most peope don't get all PWWT on their first go through. Nothing really major on PWWT on world 3 anyways, just some chunks of certain ore and a ring that you will need for a trophy. Always better to setup it up on this run and get PWWT on NG+. Worlds 1,2,4 have the best stuff at PWWT. Better off getting 3 to PBWT, there's a unique weapon and colorless demons soul at PBWT, i'd advise finishing world 5 first, there's a nice item there and it makes the mindflayers much easier with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    F1ngers wrote: »
    You beat Phalanx? He had a load of minions crawling on/around him.

    You do, in the Shrine of Storms.

    When you die and drop your souls, it's really important that you retrieve them. You use the souls you collect to level up in the Nexus(Maiden in Black).

    You can start to level up when you beat the Phananx and return to the Nexus.

    Here is a guide, very helpful.

    http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/home

    Yeah that's the guy, he was easy enough to kill.

    So if I go back to where I died I should get all my souls back? What do you do just touch the bloodstain where you died?

    Ah so if I go back to the Nexus I can start levelling up using the souls I collected, I see.

    Yeah I came across that when I was looking at buying the game but haven't read it yet.

    Thanks for the tips!


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