Why do a lot of heavy metal music people..

Lawrence1895 · 30-01-2011 07:57PM

Denny M wrote: »

I'm into metal, and I'm also anti-religion. And unless I'm mistaken, Satanism is a form of a religion.

Also; "puberty", cause that's always the reason for anything to ever happen.

Satanism can be a form of religion, at least we have the Church of Satan, which were founded as a religion...but not every Satanist is a member with them or likes them

Brandog · 30-01-2011 08:10PM

Could also be a power thing with some people.Adds a bit to their rep in their minds,all dark and scary.Was a time the christian right tried to associate metal with psycopaths and homicidal maniacs until they dug deeper and found out them freaks tended to come from over zealous moralistic god bothering families.Metal is what it is and won't appeal to all.Hail Satan!!!!!

Nodin · 30-01-2011 08:21PM

The American 'Christian' Right would be a leading cause of Satanism, I'd say.

bnt · 30-01-2011 08:52PM

There's a bit of musicology here too: Black Sabbath defined the early Metal sound, and they took their name from an early song they wrote. Bassist Geezer Butler was reading about witchcraft and the song came from a strange dream he had. The main riff uses a musical "tritone", something that sounds so "horrible" that it was shunned by classical composers and called "diabolus in musica": the "Devil in Music". So, the link between Metal and "satanism" was established early on: it could hardly get more "counterculture" than that in the 60s... :cool:

Tar.Aldarion · 30-01-2011 08:53PM

loved metal since a child, first album roots by sepultura at 8ish. Same as my sister, although she started off on acdc. None of my friends or I would ever be into something like that, or have anything in common belief wise, they just like metal too. Maybe it's black metal people you know in norway

PeterIanStaker · 30-01-2011 09:52PM

Long time metal fan here, my Dad gave me his Black Sabbath tapes when I was 11/12. Honestly some of the devil stuff I think - is done tongue in cheek and some of the gore lyrics - Death, Cannibal Corpse etc, is for shock value, it is easy to shock the American right after all.

--LOS-- · 30-01-2011 10:31PM

never known anyone who was into metal that was also into that

seanybiker · 30-01-2011 10:35PM

Never really noticed it meself either. I have known people over the years thinking they where devil worshippers just so people would think they where cool or something like that but never seen any of me metal friends sacrifice a goat or anything like that.

Splendour · 30-01-2011 10:58PM

NeedaNewName wrote: »

get into the whole Devil worship thing?

Seen it happen to a few friends Is it a puberty thing or what?

A lot of metal bands make reference to Aleister Crowley teachings who was into the occult and black magic. He was given the title 'The worlds most evil man' by the press but preferred his self given title of 'The Great Beast 666'. Teenagers as we know are prone to latching on to anything which is not mainstream-hence their interest in some heavy metal music.

Brandog · 30-01-2011 11:47PM

bnt wrote: »

There's a bit of musicology here too: Black Sabbath defined the early Metal sound, and they took their name from an early song they wrote. Bassist Geezer Butler was reading about witchcraft and the song came from a strange dream he had. The main riff uses a musical "tritone", something that sounds so "horrible" that it was shunned by classical composers and called "diabolus in musica": the "Devil in Music". So, the link between Metal and "satanism" was established early on: it could hardly get more "counterculture" than that in the 60s... :cool:

Spot on and to take it a step further.The tritone was banned by the vatican hence the avoidance of most classical composers as it was deemed to be of the lower nature hence of Satan.Rock n'roll and especially blues began to use it in the early years and all the kids noticed their lower nature was very nice and led to boyfriends/girlfriends etc and on into the 60's when the lads showed up dressed in black playing music of the libido.
Funny thing about Crowley is that he devised his "Magick" as a means to aid society.He had a nasty coke and heroine habit that near finished him until he figured out his formulae and incantations that evoked the lower nature or primal consciousness.He wanted society to use them as he believed it cured his addictions.Of course Page and Plant took it to a new level with the inflatable shark!!!!!

Amber Lamps · 30-01-2011 11:50PM

a far cry from having to disect a tape and turn the reels around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8GRwCSof8c

and in all its glory

Splendour · 30-01-2011 11:55PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

loved metal since a child, first album roots by sepultura at 8ish. Same as my sister, although she started off on acdc. None of my friends or I would ever be into something like that, or have anything in common belief wise, they just like metal too. Maybe it's black metal people you know in norway

Ahhh...the memories... I remember seeing ACDC in concert many moons ago when I was pregers with my first child. Angus left the stage to join his followers in the audience and I subsequently got buried underneath a ton of his followers-scary stuff...

Cianos · 31-01-2011 12:18AM

Why do a lot of heavy metal music people..hate all music that isn't metal

fyp

messymess · 31-01-2011 12:31AM

The funny thing is to worship the devil, you also have to acknowledge that there's a god, heaven, angels etc, the whole deal. They are as deluded as their god loving counterparts.

messymess · 31-01-2011 12:40AM

Why do a lot of heavy metal music people..hate all music that isn't metal

Because these people never discovered mdma and the power a good dance

Proxy · 31-01-2011 01:14AM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

The Devil was actually the nickname of a heavy metal guitar player named Xavi Honderich. He was into all sorts of sick stuff and used to behead and mutilate animals during performances. In 1979 he was found dead in his home by suicide. After searching the house police found several suspected pedophile priests who had been missing for over a year, all murdered with evidence of extreme torture. Snuff videos were also found with the filming of each of the priests final moments but were never released and later destroyed by an unknown 3rd party. Also something that was never resolved by the police was the identity of the 2nd suspected murderer who could be heard talking behind the camera while filming the last priests final moments. The most notable thing the man, presumed to be German or German decent said was,
"Der Herr wird nie steigen während ich die Erde wandeln."
Police never discovered the identity of the man and gave up on the case in 1981.
Ever since Metal bands have often associated themselves with the devil while rocking out.

I've just looked this up and I don't find anything about it. Do you have a ref for it?

30txsbzmcu2k9w · 31-01-2011 01:49AM

Quote:
Why do a lot of heavy metal music people..hate all music that isn't metal

fyp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfB7vF7nCdA

Degag · 31-01-2011 01:49AM

I think what confuses people alot is that they think that just because a band sings about War, Murder, Nazism etc that they support it. A bit like Slayer and "Angel of Death" There was huge controversy when it was released and the band were accused of being Nazi Supporters etc, but in actual fact, it was just a subject that interested them.

Kick ass song though!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL6-7SR6KPM

TeddyTedson · 01-02-2011 12:52PM

Proxy wrote: »

I've just looked this up and I don't find anything about it. Do you have a ref for it?

Your innocence is magnificent

Stay out of politics, your pure mind will be corrupted

Nea · 01-02-2011 01:24PM

Not one of my buddies would be remotely interested in Satanism and going back through the years I think some of them used an ouija board and had the ****e frightened out of them...where did they run... to the Catholic Church to be blessed.

As mentioned before the Church of Satan is a religion but doesnt support worship or have a belief in the devil.

Varg Vikernes is an Odinist not a Satanist but also is a bellend of the highest order with very racist views. Love his music tho.

May I ask how your buddies participate in Devil Worship?

onlyrocknroll · 01-02-2011 01:30PM

I have a better question.

Why aren't fans of the X Factor into Devil worship?

If you've already embraced evil, it seems like the next logical step to me.

Irish Halo · 01-02-2011 01:35PM

Wow there are some real experts on metal in AH, the insight into the genre is amazing, why aren't you posting in Rock & Metal?</sarcasm>

Just so I know, can people please explain how much you know about metal, have you actually heard a real metal song? Or even talked to someone who listens to metal or just looked disapprovingly at people you assume fit your stereotype sitting outside the central bank?

Also to help with the debate I have some stereotypes* to sling around:

People who slag metal are actually cloth-eared morons whose entire CD "collection" is from the big 4 major labels and the only bought them cause they like that one song. These people are unlikely to understand any non-popular genre, or its fans, not just metal.
For most people music is aural wallpaper and think the proof that a song has any merit is that it did well in the charts and the radio only plays the choicest selections of songs the world has to offer.
People who listen to dance music and believe it is enhanced by the taking of illicit substances (to be fair it couldn't get any worse) are actually to busy chewing the face off themselves on said illicit substances to notice that the dull repetitive tunes being played are banal and lack creativity.
Whiny indie kids who hang out in Whelan's listen to the worst shoe gazing drivel which is the perfect soundtrack to wet the bed to (which is useful as this is one of their hobbies).
People who only go to one gig** a year to see "that band" play "that song from the ad/TV show/radio" are ****ing tosspots and should leave well enough alone and not just go to a gig to get off their face on drink, make a tit of themselves and annoy anyone who actually came to hear the band play.

*These are all tongue in cheek (well some of them are)

** X-Factor Live, Britney Spears, Madonna, most pop acts, are not gigs they are a show which seems like a subtle difference but a show is missing some vital ingredients; genuine talent and the ability to sing/play live

onlyrocknroll · 01-02-2011 01:55PM

I'm so tired of all these offensive stereotypes. People make these stupid lazy assumptions based on some ridiculous association between two things that have nothing in common, they don't take the time to meet any of the people concerned, and they don't care how hurtful or offensive their remarks are to those whom they are besmirching with their thoughtless accusations.

For the last time, just because I worship the devil, doesn't mean that I listen to that f**King metal s***e.
:pac:

Dravokivich · 01-02-2011 02:26PM

onlyrocknroll wrote: »

I'm so tired of all these offensive stereotypes.

but... but... but... without stereotypes... what would be left in AH?

Duggy747 · 01-02-2011 02:30PM

MEEEEEEEEEETTTTTAAAAAAALLLLLLIIIIIICCCCCCCAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Into most genres of music meself (definitely not the weepy, moany acoustic dribble) but metal always gets me in the best form........bar Queen, Thin Lizzy & M.Jackson, of course :pac:

Never followed the metal fashion / attitude scene at all (dark clothes, band hoodies, dark moods / spirits, etc), brother didn't either and he's more into the death / speed metal. Suppose it gives some people a nice shock when they ask me what bands I like :P:

Girl: I really like this tone and mood of the song this singer emotes with.
Me: Eh, suppose he's alright.........*cough*
Girl: What you into, yourself?
Me: Fùckin' Slayer, baby!
Girl: ....................get away from me.........

Proxy · 01-02-2011 02:57PM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Your innocence is magnificent
Stay out of politics, your pure mind will be corrupted

.....DAMMIT!

:P

Irish Halo · 01-02-2011 02:57PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

MEEEEEEEEEETTTTTAAAAAAALLLLLLIIIIIICCCCCCCAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Sorry I thought the conversation was about metal, not a bunch of 80s has-beens resting on their 25 year old laurels

fakearms123 · 01-02-2011 03:01PM

Metallergy wrote: »

actual devil worship? i remember me n maher up in the forest in kingswood held a ritual to summon, wait for it, "Jakomiah" the weather demon. Jakomiah... make it raiiiiiin.. it fúckin rained :eek: we were only jerkin about and with a few cans of scrumpy ffs.. but he gave us the attention we did seek!

you summoned the demon Jamiroquai!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Thats insanity!! Virtual Insanity in fact!!

Duggy747 · 01-02-2011 03:09PM

Irish Halo wrote: »

Sorry I thought the conversation was about metal, not a bunch of 80s has-beens resting on their 25 year old laurels

Yea, I don't like most of their stuff from Load onwards but, dammit, I love their early stuff up to the Black album.

I don't really like today's "metal" anyways; Thundering riff, scream, shout, whiney chorus, scream, shout, whiney chorus, generic solo........repeat.

80's all the way...........even the excellently cheesy pop stuff fomr that magical decade fashion and sense forgot about! :pac:

GrizzlyMan · 01-02-2011 03:34PM

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

Like everything,a very small few like Varg Vikernes for example take it extreme levels,the rest are just posers trying to be cool.

Agreed!!

Why do a lot of heavy metal music people..

Comments