anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

MagicMarker · 29-01-2011 01:57PM

No.

29-01-2011 07:36PM

Seriously, yellow cards have been handed out already. Keep to the topic at hand, which is, "anyone here going to vote sinn féin?". People will start receiving holidays from this forum if they keep going off topic with history lessons

ismiseuisce · 29-01-2011 07:48PM

No.

moceri · 29-01-2011 08:03PM

Used to Vote FG, But I somehow doubt they have the BALLS to take on Barosso & Co. who do not want the subordinate Bondholders burnt.

I don't care if the likes of Abramovich, Rothschilds, and Goldman Sachs were foolish enough to advance funds to Anglo Irish Bank, they were paid a premium for the gamble and they lost. I was never asked as a Taxpayer to underwrite their losses.

I say we go the Icelandic route and cut them clear and let Anglo and AIB fail.

I am voting SF.

sollar · 29-01-2011 08:10PM

I'm voting sinn fein because i want to give the message to barosso and co that alot of people in this country feel they've been had and have no interest in paying private bankers debt. These guys will be looking closely at our election and it would do our cause no harm at all if a party that may play chicken with them does well.

I also think doherty will be good locally.

RustyNut · 29-01-2011 08:36PM

Im voting sf this time round just to p1ss off the ffers. If they are beaten by the shinners they will be sick as parrots. Thats the best use of my vote, the imf will be making all the big decisions from now on so it makes no real difference who we vote for.

COYW · 29-01-2011 09:49PM

I have spoken to my local SF candidate now and as a private sector worker in a multi-national company, I will not be voting for SF. I would be truely stupid to do so. Under their policies, I would get taxed even more, whilst those on the dole will be getting boom time benefits.

Also, as long as Gerry Adams has any connection with SF, I will never vote for them unless he finally tells the public about his role within the IRA. I always laugh when SF politicians talk about openness, honesty and transparency for the public when the head of their own party continuously dodges this very basic question. I asked the candidate why he wont answer this question and the candidate gave me the 'not relevant in modern day Ireland' yarn.

FG #1, IND #2 for me now, I think.

Irish Fire · 29-01-2011 10:06PM

RustyNut wrote: »

Im voting sf this time round just to p1ss off the ffers. If they are beaten by the shinners they will be sick as parrots. Thats the best use of my vote, the imf will be making all the big decisions from now on so it makes no real difference who we vote for.

That's a bloody stupid reason to vote for another party. If S.F. get in it'll be on sympathy votes!!!! To be honest they will win a few extra seats but nothing to make any difference and don't forget folks F.F. will be back in on the term after this because Irish people have a short memory.......

thetonynator · 29-01-2011 10:09PM

highlandseoghan wrote: »

I will be voting sf because they are the only party to care for the poor and unemployed. No other party will do anything for the less well off. I will also be voting for 2 independents.

Sf will work hard for the irish people I dont think any other party will work as hard.

Not much good looking after the poor and jobless if they haven't got a cent to give to them because no one will loan to us and because their only financial policy is to spend the pension reserve fund, and default on our debt.

UDAWINNER · 29-01-2011 10:14PM

yes

RightHalfBack · 29-01-2011 10:19PM

Yes I will or would, but may be out of the country depending on the day.

I think many of us (myself included) should pay more tax, the only problem i have is paying more tax and seeing no benefit to our Society. This is what i see happening now with the Universal Social Charge,

Witcher · 30-01-2011 01:47AM

I don't intend voting for Sinn Fein in this election nor any election as long as I live.

Their crap about being a changed party and having moved away from being associated with Republican paramilitary groups doesn't convince me when this can be bought on their website.

This is just my opinion and of course everyone is free to vote for who they want be it SF or otherwise but I'd ask them to note that this is what the party is like behind all their rabbling.

sharkie66 · 30-01-2011 01:06PM

Yes, I will vote for Sinn Fein.

Many in the media and the media say that SF's economic policies are downright crazy but top world economists would beg to differ! The private investors should be left to the rules of the market. Taking risks involves losing as well! These investors know the rules so why are the Irish people expected to pay for their bad choices.

Like it or not all the parties will have to come to SF's stance on this as the country simply cannot afford to take on this debt! It would appear that SF got out of the blocks first with the correct solution to the problem and all mainstream parties cannot accept this and have all decided to label SF as losers. The mainstream parties really need to look at each other's policies and figure out what needs to be done for the easing of the misery thousands of hardworking people are experiencing throughout the island of Ireland.

Lets hope all those who intend to vote in this election ask the pertinent questions when the politicians knock on their doors!

mariebeth · 30-01-2011 01:52PM

I'd vote for FF before I'd vote for SF.

Yes, they're promising great things in order to get votes, but I can't see what benefit to the country their promises will be. It's going to be a tough few years ahead of us, but if SF get their way I honestly believe they'd make things a lot worse.

lugha · 30-01-2011 01:57PM

sharkie66 wrote: »

Yes, I will vote for Sinn Fein.

Many in the media and the media say that SF's economic policies are downright crazy but top world economists would beg to differ! The private investors should be left to the rules of the market. Taking risks involves losing as well! These investors know the rules so why are the Irish people expected to pay for their bad choices.

Like it or not all the parties will have to come to SF's stance on this as the country simply cannot afford to take on this debt! It would appear that SF got out of the blocks first with the correct solution to the problem and all mainstream parties cannot accept this and have all decided to label SF as losers. The mainstream parties really need to look at each other's policies and figure out what needs to be done for the easing of the misery thousands of hardworking people are experiencing throughout the island of Ireland.

Lets hope all those who intend to vote in this election ask the pertinent questions when the politicians knock on their doors!

It may well go that way. There may be some attempt to revisit the debt problem at some time in the future. The other opposition parties would share this aspiration.
What sets Sinn Fein apart is their populist rhetoric suggesting that we can simply tell the IMF and the EU to sod off. It totally ignores the extent to which we are depending on these strangers, even if they are not terribly kind.

Playing hardball is feasible if you have decent hand (or a party who know they won't be in power and thus have to implement their ideas) but we don't even have a decent card. The parties who matter (i.e. the ones who will be in power and thus will be trying to work through this mess after the election) will bring a bit of realism to bear and accept that persuasion rather than dictation holds a better prospect for improving our arrangement.

30-01-2011 02:20PM

The wizzard Gerry is on news at one now,it's comical stuff.

crebel81 · 30-01-2011 02:31PM

Blay wrote: »

I don't intend voting for Sinn Fein in this election nor any election as long as I live.

Their crap about being a changed party and having moved away from being associated with Republican paramilitary groups doesn't convince me when this can be bought on their website..

I will be voting Sinn Fein. Yes their history with the PIRA is no secret, but lets remind all of those in the 26 counties of the injustices that occured in the 6 counties. Interned without trial, bloody sunday, collusion, etc... Occupied illegally by british forces, nationalists and republicans had very little options open to them.

I am a republican and I will be voting Sinn Fein, the party that will focus on those who are less well off in society.

sharkie66 · 30-01-2011 02:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The wizzard Gerry is on news at one now,it's comical stuff.

I don't find it comical but in fact rather serious stuff indeed! It is time for people to come to their senses and put their dislike of the person or personality aside and actually take onboard what Mr Adams and his party have to say. You might not like it but dissing a person who puts forward a view held by the world's top economists seems a tad silly! One thing for sure is that we as a nation of people will have to suffer a lot longer if we don't tell the private gamblers to feck off and suffer the consequences for bad investments! It is imperative that we do not pay for private investors bad fortune!

As for the consequences of SF's plan well just look at what Iceland did and where they are today. The market is lending money to Iceland once again so what part of the plan do you disagree with?

As for voting for F Fail I would be very surprised if anyone could justify a vote for that party taking into account what they have just done to the country. Mr Martin contributed to the mess and changing masks still leaves us with the beast underneath. They and their crony ill advised friends need to be kicked so hard that they never return to Irish politics.

I think that the Irish people will see that Fg and Lab are very very close to the old FF stance and vote SF

Wait and see!;)

30-01-2011 03:10PM

You want to be like iceland where their central bank interest rate is around 7% ?
I know what would happen here if that was the case.

Max Power1 · 30-01-2011 03:12PM

lucyfur09 wrote: »

yes,if theres one running in my area(kildare south)

There hasnt been up to now.

Ive been a staunch SF supporter until fairly recently, when their ridiculous leftist (OTT) financial policies turned me off them. I would class myself as a republican, however it is the rest of their party policies and ideals that I couldnt vote for. The links to the "troubles" would be the least of my worries if SF were to be in coalition. Especially with similar left-wing socialst parties like Labour.

sharkie66 · 31-01-2011 12:06AM

Now, now, now, Leo Varadker from FG is jumping on the SF wagon. He has just said on 'The Week in Politics' that the Irish cannot pay off the debt as it now stands......sounds like default talk to me! SF have crazy economic policy but FG don't! WOW.

31-01-2011 12:15AM

sorry are you watching the same programme?
FG have always said renegotiate not default.
Big difference.

PeterIanStaker · 31-01-2011 12:16AM

Not a hope.

jbkenn · 31-01-2011 01:53AM

As a Republican, I will never vote for a U.K. based political party.

andrewire · 31-01-2011 01:57AM

SF are a bunch of clueless demagogues. Their economic policies would destroy this country in one week. First, we wouldn't even have money to pay our current liabilities, including civil servants' wages. Second, they don't seem to understand that we are already in this mess and even if the common Irish person didn't cause it, we need a strategy to get out of it. Spending has to be cut to bring deficit under control, etc. but they don't understand this. The only SF policy is saying NO to everything.

sharkie66 · 31-01-2011 02:05AM

Deleted User wrote: »

sorry are you watching the same programme?
FG have always said renegotiate not default.
Big difference.

Sorry but I heard him say....." If the deal stays as it stands and the banking policy remains as it is, the truth is we are not going to be able to repay this money....not alone will we be in a position that we cannot honour the debts to the banks ......we may not be able to honour our sovereign debt either ...so if the IMF and the EU want to get their money back, if they want to insure that European banks don't have to take massive losses they're going to have to renegotiate this deal....

Sean O' Rourke then challenged him regarding the implicit threat of not paying the debt, so it wasn't just me not getting what Leo said!
Vadradker went on to say that FG would "present them i.e. IMF/EU with the reality that a country with a massive national debt and a stagnant economy cannot afford to borrow this kind of money with this kind of interest"

Well maybe you could tell me the difference between SF's stance and FG's stance on this one. OKay I understand it like this, FG want to renegotiate the debt question with the IMF/EU using 'Reality' and the implicit threat that we the Irish cannot pay back the banker and sovereign debt at 6%.

Sinn Fein are merely pointing out that the Irish people should not have to pay a red cent to bail out the losses made by private individuals/bond holders for their bad investments. It seems to me that SF and FG have at least this point in common! The penny is dropping in Europe and IMG quarters about the realities of the situation here in Ireland so it seems to me that SF are prepared to play hardball now with the IMF/EU while FG are just doing the same thing only maybe a little softer and of course they will wait to get into power before clearly stating their position on the matter! The end result will be the same i.e. some sort of a default sooner or later!

Sinn Fein started the ball rolling and all the Main Stream parties are trying desperately to get on the same wagon while at the same time bad mouthing SF. Seems madness to me when the country is in the state it is and all those in FG and Labour just want to play politics so as to score points off each other.

Maybe I have got it all wrong but surely we all need the best heads from all parties to come to some agreement to sort out the whole bloody mess left behind by FF the Republican Party.

musiknonstop · 31-01-2011 02:30AM

Definately not voting SF, I will not vote for terrorists.

sharkie66 · 31-01-2011 02:32AM

jbkenn wrote: »

As a Republican, I will never vote for a U.K. based political party.

Great to hear that! Maybe you could consider Sinn Fein. Its headquarters is in Dublin up Parnell square way if I can remember correctly.

Whatever you end up doing, do think carefully before you vote as many other Republicans in the past voted in the disaster of a government we have at the moment. Some even went along with the other disaster of a party called the PDs which are every bit as guilty for the mess we find ourselves in today.

Wish you the best with your Republican choices

jbkenn · 31-01-2011 02:38AM

It's H.Q. may be in Dublin, but, it's leadership is in the U.K.

sharkie66 · 31-01-2011 02:49AM

jbkenn wrote: »

It's H.Q. may be in Dublin, but, it's leadership is in the U.K.

You are having a laugh! But joking aside, does that mean you won't be voting for the only 32 county Republican Party in the next election then?

Wish you the best with the limited Republican choices to vote for in the election.

anyone here going to vote sinn féin?

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