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Held Hostage in Filling station for 25 Euro!

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  • #32
    bonerjams03
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭bonerjams03


    super_furry wrote: »
    Why would you put petrol in your car without making sure you could pay for it? It's like going to a restaurant and eating dinner without knowing if you had your wallet with you.

    What if, as often happens, the ATM was out of cash?

    He would have used Laser, which he said he had in the post, just without his PIN as the bank had issued him a new one without telling him.


  • #33
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,722 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Similar happened to me before. I filled the car with €60 petrol (around that figure!) and went to pay with my credit card. Machine couldnt read the card. I had only used it about 15 minutes beforehand. Had no money in my bank account at the time for the ATM. Cue lots of "you need to pay, you need to pay" me replying "I am trying to, but your machine doesnt want to let me", "thats not our fault" etc. So, I bought some straws for €2, handed them to the person behind the counter and said, "fair enough. You can take your petrol back". :D


  • #34
    finnegan2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭finnegan2010


    close the thread now if ya like :) at least i let off my steam:cool:.


  • #35
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    antodeco wrote: »
    Similar happened to me before. I filled the car with €60 petrol (around that figure!) and went to pay with my credit card. Machine couldnt read the card. I had only used it about 15 minutes beforehand. Had no money in my bank account at the time for the ATM. Cue lots of "you need to pay, you need to pay" me replying "I am trying to, but your machine doesnt want to let me", "thats not our fault" etc. So, I bought some straws for €2, handed them to the person behind the counter and said, "fair enough. You can take your petrol back". :D
    That's totally different. That is actually their fault


  • #36
    user1842
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭user1842


    This thing of checking to see if your card works in an ATM before you try it in a shop is a total joke. What the hell is the point of the card then. Im baffled by this


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  • #37
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Silly stone age country. Just install card readers on the pumps so you can pay before you fill up. No need to go anywhere near the oiks at the desk then.


  • #38
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,722 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    OisinT wrote: »
    That's totally different. That is actually their fault

    True, but Im just linking it in to the whole thing that even though it was there fault, they were being extremley unreasonable!


  • #39
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    antodeco wrote: »
    True, but Im just linking it in to the whole thing that even though it was there fault, they were being extremley unreasonable!
    You should have thrown down. That's what I'd have done :o


  • #40
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    You're at fault OP, before I got a laser card I never put petrol in a car without having the cash in my hand, I always went to the ATM first just in case it didn't work, which has happened on numerous occasions.

    While I think the guys in the shop could have been a little understanding, it's not really their problem, is it?


  • #41
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    dmclean1842 wrote: »
    This thing of checking to see if your card works in an ATM before you try it in a shop is a total joke. What the hell is the point of the card then. Im baffled by this
    It's not checking to see if the card works, it's checking to see if there's money in the atm/making sure the ATM works.

    Do you think there are tunnels of cash running from the bank to each individual ATM` or something?


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  • #42
    giant_midget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭giant_midget


    antodeco wrote: »
    Similar happened to me before. I filled the car with €60 petrol (around that figure!) and went to pay with my credit card. Machine couldnt read the card. I had only used it about 15 minutes beforehand. Had no money in my bank account at the time for the ATM. Cue lots of "you need to pay, you need to pay" me replying "I am trying to, but your machine doesnt want to let me", "thats not our fault" etc. So, I bought some straws for €2, handed them to the person behind the counter and said, "fair enough. You can take your petrol back". :D

    Lies...this never happened..


  • #43
    Kimono-Girl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    dmclean1842 wrote: »
    This thing of checking to see if your card works in an ATM before you try it in a shop is a total joke. What the hell is the point of the card then. Im baffled by this


    the point is you don't have to go to the nearest bank with your bank book just to withdraw cash....


    at ths stage most people would know stand alone ATMs (esp in petrol stations) can be emptied by people taking €50's quite easily (they do not put much cash in for fear of robbery) and so may not be working..its always best to check first and it only takes 2 minutes.


  • #44
    Spudmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    JohnathanM wrote: »
    They can't hold you, unless they were intending to call the Gardai and make things more fun. You made a reasonable offer so they should have accepted it, or just let you leave. Myself, I would have walked out and called the Gardai to report the incident when I got to a phone. Then, after that, I would have returned to pay when I knew the manager would be around. These things happen; no need for people to be arses about it.

    When I was working in a petrol station I had 50 quid take off me for drives offs, my girlfriend had about 200. This was written into our contract so it was within the owners rights to do this. Frankly it is no fun working a day for nothing.


  • #45
    user1842
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭user1842


    Kimono-Girl wrote: »
    the point is you don't have to go to the nearest bank with your bank book just to withdraw cash....


    at ths stage most people would know stand alone ATMs (esp in petrol stations) can be emptied by people taking €50's quite easily (they do not put much cash in for fear of robbery) and so may not be working..its always best to check first and it only takes 2 minutes.

    What I meant by my statement was that your paying by Laser but are checking your balance at an ATM before hand. Your not taking money out.


  • #46
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Spudmonkey wrote: »
    When I was working in a petrol station I had 50 quid take off me for drives offs, my girlfriend had about 200. This was written into our contract so it was within the owners rights to do this. Frankly it is no fun working a day for nothing.

    Is that legal? If someone fills up and then drives off without even coming into the shop how is it your fault?


  • #47
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    OP, why didn't you just walk out and drive home for the money? It wasn't like you were chained to the radiator.


  • #48
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Spudmonkey wrote: »
    When I was working in a petrol station I had 50 quid take off me for drives offs, my girlfriend had about 200. This was written into our contract so it was within the owners rights to do this. Frankly it is no fun working a day for nothing.

    thats nuts... used to work in 1 myself and they had expected drive offs, but werent going to deduct wages...

    ...you wouldnt be deducted for shoplifters robbing the place.

    when someone didnt have the money, we took their phone, contact details and reg.

    you cant take the drivers lisence or passport from them at all anyway.


  • #49
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    This was discussed on Joe Duffy. He asked what a "drive off" was


  • #50
    JohnathanM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    This was discussed on Joe Duffy. He asked what a "drive off" was

    F'ck me, but I cant stand Joe Duffy.


  • #51
    Brenireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Brenireland


    Joe Duffy: Finnegan what happened tell us,what happened..

    Finnegan: Joe I am bewildered...

    Joe: Wow,Really?

    Finn:Yes

    Joe: What happened Finn?

    Finn: Long story Joe?

    Joe:That's okay Finn.

    Finn: I was Held ransom in a Filling station because the bank had insufficient funds...

    Joe:Really

    Finn: Yes,Im in shock.

    Joe: Thats okay we'll send you on 25 Euro,have you enough money for food.


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  • #52
    Paparazzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Spudmonkey wrote: »
    When I was working in a petrol station I had 50 quid take off me for drives offs, my girlfriend had about 200. This was written into our contract so it was within the owners rights to do this. Frankly it is no fun working a day for nothing.

    I know a contract is void if some thing illegal is written in. Is this legal? I doubt it.


  • #53
    Jumpy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    You cant legally be held.

    Just leave. Get the money, then come back.

    If they physically restrain you then happily sue.

    If you leave and dont come back though, then you are a dorty thief.


  • #54
    xE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭xE


    Although it was extreme, I suppose prevention is better than cure for them.


  • #55
    finnegan2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭finnegan2010


    :p
    Kimono-Girl wrote: »
    *jumps off horse* :D

    i wasn't referring to the actions of the staff,

    i was refering to the fact the op said in his post he tried to use a card which the banks have issued many warnings and publications of, that stopped working last year,

    ***** Answered this I DIDNT ! And had no knowledge of it********

    he also didn't know his laser pin, i havent worked in retail for over 2 years and before i left we were issued with a warning from our bank that if a card has a chip you HAVE to use the pin, no more signing for things,

    ****When did i say i didnt know my pin number? I asked could he put it through without the pin to see if it would make a difference i KNEW the pin. So get back on that high horse lol :p ****

    the op was a fault for these reasons,





    sorry op i thought you were using a regular bank card pre-chip, and had your new laser on you.

    but yeah its always a good idea to check the atm first, and remember your pin! :D


  • #56
    Spudmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Is that legal? If someone fills up and then drives off without even coming into the shop how is it your fault?

    We went to the citizens information board, didn't really know who else to go to, and they said if it was part of your contract then it was.

    At the start they used use it more as a threat than anything else but after a spate of incidents, they started taking it from wages.

    There was an unusual system in place in that shop, there were three tills, all with access to the main petrol till, however it was the person on "top" till who had responsibility. Even though anyone could release the pump.

    Maybe we had a case but we didn't chase it any further.


  • #57
    Kimono-Girl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    finnegan2010 wrote: »
    The bank recently WITHOUT advising me cancelled my old ATM card, To replace it with a new style one.


    see i saw this ^ as the old pre-chip ATM bank cards (you said old like :P)

    finnegan2010 wrote: »
    asked could he put Laser through without using the pin. He tried wouldnt work.

    and this usually when people ask for the pin not to be used its because they don't know it. i took it that your card wasn't working,and you didn't know your new cards pin, not that they replaced your pin! :o
    finnegan2010 wrote: »
    :p


    yes i assumed and made an ass out of myself, but sure whats new....thats just me! :D


  • #58
    kiddums
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭kiddums


    You should have started crying OP.
    No one knows how to deal with a crying adult.
    /problem


  • #59
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    What kind of a buffoon fills up their car with petrol when they don't actually possess any actual physical currency?

    Could you not have used your head and tried to withdraw cash from the ATM before you put petrol in the car, OP?


  • #60
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    What kind of a buffoon fills up their car with petrol when they don't actually possess any actual physical currency?

    Could you not have used your head and tried to withdraw cash from the ATM before you put petrol in the car, OP?
    Nobody should have to do this in 2011.


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  • #61
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,722 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    jesusinaglanza wrote: »
    Lies...this never happened..

    Can you provide evidence that it didnt?

    I can... I was there. It was me.


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