Would you vote Sinn Fein for the election?

NeedaNewName wrote: »

Well? Would you?

A lot of political parities have murky past like FG and FF but we have to move on and as the world is moving ever faster, maybe 50 years isn't needed to forget?

Maybe 10 or so in these modern infoteclogical times?

I'm thinking of swining in that direction. Would you?

So you think SF doesn't have murky past (and present)?

meh.

I wouldn't vote for them, I don't like where they stand on The Issues. :pac:

Never mind the past, sinn fein are far too radical and idealistic to do a good job of running the country.
I can't think of anything off had but I, generally disagree with their ideas for reform

No. I would not.

Not because of all the "Nationalist" or "IRA" related baggage but simply because I don't believe in any political movement that lives in fairy land thinking that everything will just sort itself out (no need for cuts etc...) and their constant... The rich need to pay more blah blah blah bullcrap.

While the bank bail out needs considerable scrutiny a viable alternative is not this (whatever this actually is):

The money exists in the National Pension Reserve Fund and in Exchequer funding to fund the state for this year.

“The focus for the next twelve months must be on protecting and creating jobs, growing the economy through a stimulus package and returning to the bond markets in 2012 to negotiate funds at an acceptable rate"

http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/19954

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Maybe when the party isnt run by the actual people responsible for huge atrocities

You clearly have evidence to make such a claim, so by actually withholding this evidence you are committing a criminal offence.

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

You clearly have evidence to make such a claim, so by actually withholding this evidence you are committing a criminal offence.

You're kidding right?

Yes i would, and lets remember, their original aim was (and as such still is) for a 32 county Ireland. That's something i'd love to see, although logical thinking would say that i won't see it in my lifetime. In any case, they have had controvercies but every party has had. What matters now is their political stance today - and alot of it makes sence - some of it doesn't either though, but like the rest of the opposition, it feels like they don't go against the government, just because they are the opposition. i think they have legitimate policies where FG and Labour don't at times.

I doubt I will, but I wouldn't be so down on anyone who is considering it either. Over the last few months SF have been the only ones to show their worth as an opposition party. They are the only ones against the rushing through of the finance bill while the other parties sit on their hands and ignore people's concerns just so that they won't be held responsible for passing the bill once they are in power.

imho, SF have some of the freshest candidates in the country, it's just a pity that they decided to aim so far to the left when getting into politics. As for Gerry, well he's Gerry.. I'd say the party as a whole would be better off without him or any of the other old-hats, but they'd never sacrifice the 'hardliner' vote by having them step down.

Degag wrote: »

Yes i would, and lets remember, their original aim was (and as such still is) for a 32 county Ireland. That's something i'd love to see, although logical thinking would say that i won't see it in my lifetime. In any case, they have had controvercies but every party has had. What matters now is their political stance today - and alot of it makes sence - some of it doesn't either though, but like the rest of the opposition, it feels like they don't go against the government, just because they are the opposition. i think they have legitimate policies where FG and Labour don't at times.

Putting aside all the "they are our counties" stuff and focusing on the parts that actually affect us. The north costs the British exchequer huge sums every year. Where do you propose we find the money to subsidise it? consdering the 26 counties we already have are running at a huge loss as it is. Just the actual changeover from British to Irish rule would cost Billions on day 1, never mind when we actually have to pay for stuff to make the place run.

Degag wrote: »

Yes i would, and lets remember, their original aim was (and as such still is) for a 32 county Ireland.

And their method of trying to achieve that was to murder anybody who stood in their way, be they man, woman or child.

Degag wrote: »

What matters now is their political stance today - and alot of it makes sence - some of it doesn't either though, but like the rest of the opposition, it feels like they don't go against the government, just because they are the opposition. i think they have legitimate policies where FG and Labour don't at times.

OK, now this makes absolutely no sense. All they do is "go against the government". They had to be thrown out of all-party talks the other day because Doherty didn't understand the concept of intelligent dialogue, preferring instead to act like a spoilt 5 year old who didn't get his way. And they by no means have legitimate policies. That is what everybody is laughing about. They haven't a clue! I mean, Labour are pretty poor on the policy front, but compared to Sinn Fein, they look like the most intelligent, coherent intellects ever. If you were to hand Sinn Fein complete control of the country tomorrow, by the weekend, the entire country would collapse.

P.S. What also matters now is their continued attitude to murder, violence, theft and intimidation. Despite "offically" declaring a cease-fire, they are still very much involved in criminal/terrorist activity.

Anita Blow wrote: »

After jurry Adams embarrassing interview today you'd have to be retarded to vote for them. Could not answer any question straight and suggested we renege on the IMF deal and then go to the markets. Is he for real? We'd be crucified.
He then switched to "oh we'll negotiate with the IMF" and then back to reneging.

Then he suggested we leave Anglo and Nationwide fail. Yea that would've been a fair idea 2 years ago but it isn't now. When asked what about all the people with savings in those banks after letting it fail, he had no answer.

Embarrassment of a party

Gerry Adams. I have to say Adams could be the Achilles heel of the entire Sinn Féin campaign if his inability to answer Varadkar's point this morning is anything to go by. And I say this as somebody who remains wholly unconvinced that Fine Gael will be any different from Fianna Fáil if they get into power. I find the notion delusional in the extreme.

It's utterly unforgivable that Adams has not learnt his lesson since 2007 and he is insulting the intelligence of us all by refusing to tackle economic points and instead offering something populist. It fools nobody. Sinn Féin should either stop letting him talk about economic issues or, more preferably, bring in the relevant advisers to give him an intensive course on economic matters so that Adams can give serious alternatives to Fine Gael and Labour. Very many people are looking for those alternatives, make no mistake about that.

The interview, for those who missed it, was on Morning Ireland. It can be listened to here

To be honest, after the way Fianna Fail have acted, given spinelessness of Fine Gael and Labour I'd be highly tempted to vote for Sinn Fein. As bad as they are at least they give a **** about the low income earners and welfare recipients. And after Pearse's statement following the budget, I'm more inclined now than before.