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Are there any warm countries with good governments?

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    #92
    Fremen
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    PeakOutput wrote: »
    you already asked me that and i already answered it

    Yep, his uncle's a pornographer.


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    #93
    Notorious
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    Venezuela - flood your house and Hugo Chavez will let you live in his presidential palace. Also, there's a free national health care system and being a native english speaker will help you get a decent job. There's a bit of a high crime rate at the moment, but they're working on that.


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    #94
    IamtheWalrus
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    Ghandee wrote: »
    Cuba

    Run down shite hole. Was there last year.


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    #95
    jackiebaron
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    Notorious wrote: »
    Venezuela - flood your house and Hugo Chavez will let you live in his presidential palace. Also, there's a free national health care system and being a native english speaker will help you get a decent job. There's a bit of a high crime rate at the moment, but they're working on that.

    Plus, if the supermarket tries to jack up the price of beer, Hugo just comes in and takes them over and drops the price again.


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    #96
    Sulmac
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    How about one of those Dutch territories in the Caribbean? Some have self-rule (1, 2, 3), while some are actually 'part' of the Netherlands proper.


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    #97
    pickarooney
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    Sint-Maarten is an absolute kip, a prime example of what happens when you let Dutch people interfere with natural beauty.

    Aruba could be cool though, just saying the name reminds me of Captain Pillowcase.


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    #98
    fakearms123
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    Might I suggest Belize, on the Caribbean and English is the main language.


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    #99
    hal9000
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    I wonder how easy it would be to get a job on some of the more obscure islands mentioned here?


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    #100
    pickarooney
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    fakearms123 wrote: »
    Might I suggest Belize, on the Caribbean and English is the main language.

    And it was founded by pirates. Worth an extra 50 points surely.

    Just don't mention the hurricane.


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    #101
    Xavi6
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    Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »
    Australia is great, but house prices, food prices will knock you back a lot.

    Disagree on the house prices bit, for Perth anyway. It's all relative to your earnings and as a 25 year old earning a slightly above average salary, the prices don't scare me one bit (I'd be buying with a second income though).

    Liah, you seem a tad picky tbh. If you can find so much fault with first world countries then I'm not sure what it will take to satisfy you. Nowhere's perfect afterall.


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    #102
    Red Hand
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Disagree on the house prices bit, for Perth anyway. It's all relative to your earnings and as a 25 year old earning a slightly above average salary, the prices don't scare me one bit (I'd be buying with a second income though).

    Liah, you seem a tad picky tbh. If you can find so much fault with first world countries then I'm not sure what it will take to satisfy you. Nowhere's perfect afterall.

    How bad is censorship in Australia? I wasn't aware of any...thought Aus was like Western Europe in most things.


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    #103
    mprop
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    LighterGuy wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azVqekQBK8g



    :D
    wait you said "decent government" - my bad :(


    Zing. Take that Africa.


    Africa is a continent


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    #104
    AckwelFoley
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    i like the good US of A.


    But if i were to pick another non english speaking nation o would probably have to say the south of france, around toulouse, or up the east near or around the Mont Blonc region


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    #105
    Xavi6
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    Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »
    How bad is censorship in Australia? I wasn't aware of any...thought Aus was like Western Europe in most things.

    Well they wanted to ban female ejaculation from porn last year so maybe that's why Liah's so upset... :pac:

    Nut seriously, I'm not aware of anything really that effects my life. There was some situation back in 08 but it's not relevant to me so I'm not too sure of the details.


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    #106
    Don_Corleone
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    i kinda like the idea of the cayman islands, no tax at all, great weather, no crime and a constant supply of young good looking american tourists!! Mate of mine moved there for a 6month contract, 3 years later hes still there... the bastard :mad:


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    #107
    Einhard
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    liah wrote: »
    and the censorship in OZ is a big thing for me as I'm incredibly anti-censorship, what little there is here in Germany already drives me batty.

    What's all this about censorship in Oz? Never really noticed it when I lived there. Although maybe that's because nobody was allowed to talk about it!:p


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    #108
    goose2005
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    Costa Rica


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    #109
    anto2
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    Chiang Mai Northern Thailand .It works for me anyway .Hope to live out the rest of my life here .Dont care if i never get back to Ireland .:)


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    #110
    pickarooney
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Well they wanted to ban female ejaculation from porn last year so maybe that's why Liah's so upset... :pac:

    Nut seriously, I'm not aware of anything really that effects my life. There was some situation back in 08 but it's not relevant to me so I'm not too sure of the details.

    Are you not a journalist? Surely if there was censorship it would be very relevant to you (unless for some reason you're ruling out being a journalist in the porn industry).


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    #111
    Xavi6
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Are you not a journalist? Surely if there was censorship it would be very relevant to you (unless for some reason you're ruling out being a journalist in the porn industry).

    9-5 I'm a bank worker but yeah I'm also a freelance journalist, however I only do sports and there's zero sensorship in that. In fact sports is quite open in terms of stories that get air time that could very easily be swept under the carpet.

    I've little or no interest in politics, computer games etc so that's why it has no real impact on me.


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    #112
    liah
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Australia


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    #113
    Marcus.Aurelius
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Disagree on the house prices bit, for Perth anyway. It's all relative to your earnings and as a 25 year old earning a slightly above average salary, the prices don't scare me one bit (I'd be buying with a second income though).

    I was thinking more along the lines of Sydney, houses 40 km from the city can rake in $400k to $600k easily. I don't disagree with you, if you have a good job with a decent salary it's manageable, otherwise it's easy to find yourself in a struggle.


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    #114
    coffee_cake
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    Seeing a picture of the president framed and hanging up in the airport in the USA when I landed was enough to scare me :pac:

    I'd suggest catalunya maybe, though it's definitely cold-ish in winter


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    #115
    liah
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    I'm wondering why it's only really countries that have a 'real' winter that are progressive, I can think of quite a few countries I wouldn't mind living in, various places in Europe (Scandinavia, etc), Canada, etc. But they've all got fairly brutal winters.

    Chances are I'll just have to suck it up and pick a country with a winter, but why are there so few, if any, countries that are warm all year round that fit the majority of those criteria?

    An odd correlation, but one I'm curious about.


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    #116
    Red Hand
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Seeing a picture of the president framed and hanging up in the airport in the USA when I landed was enough to scare me :pac:

    Ah, you a Pope John Paul II person, same as me? Maybe with JFK beside him for good measure. :pac:


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    #117
    Earthhorse
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    liah wrote: »
    Decent government meaning, basic human rights, low crime rate, low corruption rate, high quality of life, low poverty, etc., and subjectively (since some people will disagree on these things being 'decent') government-regulated (or at least affordable!) healthcare and education, separation of church and state, and low censorship?
    liah wrote: »
    Chances are I'll just have to suck it up and pick a country with a winter, but why are there so few, if any, countries that are warm all year round that fit the majority of those criteria?

    Can you tell me how France, Spain and Portugal don't fit the majority of those criteria?


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    #118
    El Horseboxo
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    Loads of cool places to live in developing countries where local politics are fine. You're never gonna find an entire country that will tick all the boxes for you.


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    #119
    PeakOutput
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    liah wrote: »
    I'm wondering why it's only really countries that have a 'real' winter that are progressive, I can think of quite a few countries I wouldn't mind living in, various places in Europe (Scandinavia, etc), Canada, etc. But they've all got fairly brutal winters.

    Chances are I'll just have to suck it up and pick a country with a winter, but why are there so few, if any, countries that are warm all year round that fit the majority of those criteria?

    An odd correlation, but one I'm curious about.

    also one that isnt really true at all, your view of what is and isnt progressive is quite skewed and you lump the entire of the united states in as one when there are the equivelant of 50 odd countries in one there, each with their own goverment, laws and political philosophies

    saying that australia is progressive is ridicolous

    it is clear why countries like spain and portugal etc arent quite as succesffull economically and that is because they dont have great agricultural weather so they are playing catch up to the countries who were built on farming

    your views are definitely going to lead you to settle for a place that isnt what you think it is and also dosnt have the winter your looking for


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    #120
    pickarooney
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    liah wrote: »
    I'm wondering why it's only really countries that have a 'real' winter that are progressive, I can think of quite a few countries I wouldn't mind living in, various places in Europe (Scandinavia, etc), Canada, etc. But they've all got fairly brutal winters.

    Chances are I'll just have to suck it up and pick a country with a winter, but why are there so few, if any, countries that are warm all year round that fit the majority of those criteria?

    An odd correlation, but one I'm curious about.

    For it to be a real correlation there would have to be few or no countries with brutal winters and equally brutal governments. Russia and the pack of 'stans would sink that theory. In essence you've got a small handful of countries with a similar cultural background who just happen to have cold winters and tolerable governments.

    And as pointed out there are a number of Mediterranean countries who don't have crackpot dictators running them.


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    #121
    liah
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    Earthhorse wrote: »
    Can you tell me how France, Spain and Portugal don't fit the majority of those criteria?

    Spain could be an option, I've never been. But I'm not sure I would like how religious it seems to be, and the dating culture/how men typically view women doesn't appeal to me at all.. I don't think I would be particularly happy there, I guess. Isn't there a quite seedy underbelly to Spain and relatively high crime? I could just be wildly misinformed.

    I wasn't aware there were parts of France that were warm all year round.. I suppose I already have a base in speaking French. Not that I like the language at all, but I suppose it's an option. Not too sure about the culture there though.

    Portugal I know essentially nothing about.


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