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deluded and sick person?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭cazzak79


    sorry people i just think if it was my sister that was killed in this way id hate to hear anything like this been said
    we get alot of stories about english murders here including the joanna yeates at christmas
    i hope people would just leave her family and her in peace


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    phasers wrote: »
    Why do they bang on about her being Protestant? I thought NI had moved on from all that crap, or at least the media had.

    it stirs it up far more than if a catholic had said it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    hondasam wrote: »
    problem with that as well.

    Nope. I am of the opinion that anyone who thinks this...
    What is it they say about what goes around comes around or karma or what ever u wanna call it! or as my mum would say your sins will always find u out hehe
    they haven't got a valid opinion, but a serious chip on their shoulder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    cazzak79 wrote: »
    sorry people i just think if it was my sister that was killed in this way id hate to hear anything like this been said

    so would anyone im sure, which begs the question why the newspaper decided it would be a good idea to print it

    the girl is entitled to her opinions, christ knows id probably agree with her if i was back home and having to listen to the same story over and over again, and shes entitled to post whatever she likes on her facebook

    if she loses her job over it its a disgrace, whether or not you approve of what she said or how she said it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    Well, I can answer it for her. People have no interest in the individual stories of soldiers dying since they have no real concept of war. Being on your honeymoon is easier to relate to. And also the fact that she was the daughter of an Irish celebrity helps.

    Now it didn't take me much to work this out, but similarly I wouldn't feel the need to go on FB to cry on about it.

    It was the same as when Princess Diana died and Mother Teresa died a week later. Guess which got the most coverage? That the way the media and public's hunger for celebrity works.
    I understand why people empathise more with this story, but that still doesn't mean their priorities aren't upside-down.

    People and papers going on about how the nation had been "brought to its knees" by the murder. It's sad, but God forbid people might really, seriously consider the widespread human-rights violations, hunger, torture and killings that happen wholesale every day of the year.

    Yes, I know it's possible to care about both wider social issues and individual tragedies, but in reality I think way too many people are far more concerned with the latter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    ascanbe wrote: »
    What about the other ones about 'karma'?
    Inappropriate, maybe, but it's coming from a nobody's Facebook page.

    "Vile," "Sickening -" I've heard people say the Independant is not as bottom-rung as the Sindo, but ham-fisted usage of power words like these scream red-top rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Inappropriate, maybe, but it's coming from a nobody's Facebook page.

    "Vile," "Sickening -" I've heard people say the Independant is not as bottom-rung as the Sindo, but ham-fisted usage of power words like these scream red-top rubbish.

    I'd consider the Independent to be much the same as the Sunday Indepedent; just with less celebrity stuff.
    I'd have more respect for red-top's; at least they aren't pretending to be something they aren't.
    Anyway, my take on it is that it could be construed as newsworthy as this woman apparently works for another paper; with that in mind, you'd think she would have the cop-on not to putting stuff like that on her facebook page.
    If she loses her job it will be her own fault.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Horrible little bitch maybe, but deluded and sick? Doubtful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭imitation


    Certainly shows the dangers of setting your profile to public and being none too bright. I was thinking today if privacy laws will once again change due to people being moronic on the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭cazzak79


    sorry should have thought a better title


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    A controversial but not necessarily sick and deluded opinion. Turning this into a story and a moral witch-hunt is arguably more disrespectful than the original opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    She was making the point that this tragedy received OTT media attention, resulting in the neglect of other tragedies - I don't think that's an unfair view to hold. The way she expressed it though was horrible - the "karma" stuff. But, her Facebook page, and a cheap, cheap tactic by the newspaper which pounced on it. No doubt there are plenty of other Facebook pages with as bad, and worse.

    Plus, despite the "concern" for the family, that paper still went and "revealed" this, which it never had to do in the first place and which the family never had to know about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭cml387


    My word,what a lot of mature and reasoned responses.
    Is AH getting "respectable"?
    BTW
    I agree with the odiousness of the Indo reporting of what is an unfortunate facebook entry (also see Una Healy thread).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I don't get how what she said is sectarian. Also where does it say she's protstant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    If you haven't got anything nice to say....etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Piste wrote: »
    Also where does it say she's protstant?

    She supports Rangers and Linfield and she's from Rathfriland... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Xivilai


    She has a point but she delivered it in the wrong way, the bitch.. Also what did your wan do for Morrison to start talking about Karma?


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tbh the amount of press coverage over the murder is beyond a joke. The daughter of someone famous in GAA circles is really not worthy of front page news for over a week. Yes, it's a tragedy but at the same time there are far more newsworthy stories to report on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    A lot of the sectarian crew werent fond of her I believe. I dont care really it bothers me as much as people hating obama because hes black. Backward people shouldnt be given time of day. the belfast telegraph were being assh*les by printing it tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Piste wrote: »
    I don't get how what she said is sectarian. Also where does it say she's protstant?

    Sorry to go all Captain Obvious on ye but:
    On her Facebook site Susanne Morrison describes one of her activities as “being Protestant”.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Some amount of shite being posted on this thread.

    Michaela was well known in Ireland, especially in GAA circles (which is pretty much the majority of the country) and she was a contestant in the Rose of Tralee and had become famous in her own right off the back of that. A guest on the Late Late and many other shows.

    She gets married at 26 years old, goes on honeymoon and is murdered.

    The whole country is talking about this and maybe the papers have been selling newspapers on the back of it, but that is what they do with every thing, not just this story - it's the nature of the beast.

    All this bull**** (to put it mildly) that soldiers die every day, horrible sickness etc etc etc is just that, BULLSHIT! Soldiers are at WAR, people who die of illnesses (like members of my own family) are NOT FAMOUS! Why would they be newsworthy exactly

    Some sour fuckers around, I swear to jaysus and this so called photographer is most certainly one of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    phasers wrote: »
    Why do they bang on about her being Protestant? I thought NI had moved on from all that crap, or at least the media had.

    No, they haven't. And I've reason to believe that's why people in the rest of Ireland want nothing to do with those retards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Thomas828 wrote: »
    No, they haven't. And I've reason to believe that's why people in the rest of Ireland want nothing to do with those retards.

    What a ****in ignorant post!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Dudess wrote: »

    Plus, despite the "concern" for the family, that paper still went and "revealed" this, which it never had to do in the first place and which the family never had to know about.

    Aye - and they have the cheek to act oh so appalled by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    She's entitled to her views undoubtedly, but she's missing the point. It's not very often something so tragic resonates so strongly with people. This case did that, it's the first thing I thought about. To bury your bride days after the wedding, it just made my blood run cold. Comparing her to professional soldiers is absolutely ridiculous. Soldiers take on their duties in the full knowledge of the risks associated with them. A bride is expected to return from her honeymoon alive. Her cold blooded senseless murder and for it to occur during the happiest days of her short life, is what really horrified people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Some amount of shite being posted on this thread.

    Michaela was well known in Ireland, especially in GAA circles (which is pretty much the majority of the country) and she was a contestant in the Rose of Tralee and had become famous in her own right off the back of that. A guest on the Late Late and many other shows.

    She gets married at 26 years old, goes on honeymoon and is murdered.

    The whole country is talking about this and maybe the papers have been selling newspapers on the back of it, but that is what they do with every thing, not just this story - it's the nature of the beast.

    All this bull**** (to put it mildly) that soldiers die every day, horrible sickness etc etc etc is just that, BULLSHIT! Soldiers are at WAR, people who die of illnesses (like members of my own family) are NOT FAMOUS! Why would they be newsworthy exactly

    Some sour fuckers around, I swear to jaysus and this so called photographer is most certainly one of them.

    eh they should be new worthy but I would understand why the media dont feel the same


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    What a ****in ignorant post!

    The island is bursting at the seems with ignorance, it explains the state of our economy/political system..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    What a ****in ignorant post!

    The retards I'm talking about are sectarians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Thomas828 wrote: »
    The retards I'm talking about are sectarians.

    Well then you should have specified as such in your post since the post you replied to referred to NI.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭stevejr


    IMO this just rubs salt into the wounds of the Harte family. This woman is a media professional who full well knows that her words, considering her employers, would inevitably carry some weight.

    If she's not a bigot then surely she is immature and niave in the extreme.

    The strawman argument that other people die everyday with little or no coverage carries no weight, Michaela Harte died tragically and her death was given the coverage that was deemed appropriate by the media, including this woman paper.

    I think she was just quite niave.

    What's the reason for being reasonable?

    Is that an unreasonable question?



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