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German porn actress dies after breast enlargement.

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  • #182
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Dude, you can't just come along and say "Porn killed her, prove me wrong".

    Dude, it's just as valid as saying her career in porn played no role whatsoever. At least other posters have accepted that possibility.


  • #183
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,431 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    prinz wrote: »
    Dude, it's just as valid as saying her career in porn played no role whatsoever. At least other posters have accepted that possibility.

    I never said it wasn't possible. of course it was possible.

    But you are claiming it as truth, or at least in your opinion.


  • #184
    prinz
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    Amber Lamps wrote: »
    i am livid reading this thread. some of the views been given here are total clap trap. im a porn star myself and we have lost one of our best assets in loosing cora.

    Good to know you can fit it in between the truck driving and the labouring.


  • #185
    28064212
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    prinz wrote: »
    Dude, it's just as valid as saying her career in porn played no role whatsoever. At least other posters have accepted that possibility.
    And again, so what if it did play a role? Her parents played a role, her schooldays played a role, the time she spent in the Big Brother house, her friends, her career, the inventor of the scalpel and a thousand, a million other facets played a role. So what?

    If that is your only point, it's irrelevant. If you have some conclusions about the porn industry to draw based on that point, then do it.

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  • #186
    prinz
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    28064212 wrote: »
    And again, so what if it did play a role? Her parents played a role, her schooldays played a role, the time she spent in the Big Brother house, her friends, her career, the inventor of the scalpel and a thousand, a million other facets played a role. So what?..

    It's called discussion. It's fun.


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  • #187
    28064212
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    prinz wrote: »
    It's called discussion. It's fun.
    If all you have to say is that her porn career may have been a factor in her death, it's not a discussion, it's a statement, and it's not a particularly interesting statement.

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  • #188
    Amber Lamps
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    prinz wrote: »
    Good to know you can fit it in between the truck driving and the labouring.

    like all actors work is not a constant in this industry. seems to me you are just down on the fact that cora made her career in this particular industry and you're just looking for a remote butterfly affect to link this tragedy to to how she made her money.


  • #189
    MrStuffins
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    Amber Lamps wrote: »
    like all actors work is not a constant in this industry. seems to me you are just down on the fact that cora made her career in this particular industry and you're just looking for a remote butterfly affect to link this tragedy to to how she made her money.

    Yeah but........... you're a porn star? You're not serious surely?


  • #190
    Amber Lamps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 282 ✭✭Amber Lamps


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Yeah but........... you're a porn star? You're not serious surely?

    why would i lie about it. it brings in an extra check from time to time. and like was pointed out the guys get paid a lot less than the ladies do. but like i said it keeps me afloat while im in between 'real' jobs


  • #191
    prinz
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    Amber Lamps wrote: »
    like all actors work is not a constant in this industry. seems to me you are just down on the fact that cora made her career in this particular industry and you're just looking for a remote butterfly affect to link this tragedy to to how she made her money.

    Yes, in this instance I have more sympathy with the dead 24 year old girl than with the 'industry'.


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  • #192
    Amber Lamps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 282 ✭✭Amber Lamps


    prinz wrote: »
    Yes, in this instance I have more sympathy with the dead 24 year old girl than with the 'industry'.

    thats cool then. i didn't get that impression from reading your posts


  • #193
    prinz
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    28064212 wrote: »
    If all you have to say is that her porn career may have been a factor in her death, it's not a discussion, it's a statement, and it's not a particularly interesting statement.

    Yes, you're right. This being AH I should have limited myself to asking how 'lightweight bitchez be if they can only fellate 75 men without medical attention' etc.


  • #194
    28064212
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    prinz wrote: »
    Yes, you're right. This being AH I should have limited myself to lightweight bitchez be if they can only fellate 75 men without medical attention etc.
    No, this being a 'discussion' (apparently), you should be capable of actually stating your point. Instead you imply, obfuscate, dance around and ignore direct questions, then complain when other posters do the same

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  • #195
    prinz
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    Amber Lamps wrote: »
    thats cool then. i didn't get that impression from reading your posts

    Unlike many others I haven't been making jokes etc at the poor girl's expense. She was only 24. It's unfortunate how her life ended.


  • #196
    prinz
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    28064212 wrote: »
    No, this being a 'discussion' (apparently), you should be capable of actually stating your point. Instead you imply, obfuscate, dance around and ignore direct questions, then complain when other posters do the same

    If other posters are doing the same what's your point? Sure we're all only dancing and obfuscating then complaining about each other.


  • #197
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,431 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    28064212 wrote: »
    No, this being a 'discussion' (apparently), you should be capable of actually stating your point. Instead you imply, obfuscate, dance around and ignore direct questions, then complain when other posters do the same

    And worst of all, to repeatedly make and try to consolidate your point for an entire thread, and then after 10 pages deny you said it at all :rolleyes:


  • #198
    prinz
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    And worst of all, to repeatedly make and try to consolidate your point for an entire thread, and then after 10 pages deny you said it at all :rolleyes:

    IMO there is a link between her career choice and the surgeries. Thus IMO, her career played a part in her being operated on last week or whenever it was.I never denied that.


  • #199
    TwoShedsJackson
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    As long as Gianna Michaels is still alive. Mind you she's 27 now, she'll be in the MILF category soon, by porn standards.


  • #200
    28064212
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    prinz wrote: »
    IMO there is a link between her career choice and the surgeries. Thus IMO, her career played a part in her being operated on last week or whenever it was.
    No-one has said that her career definitely didn't play a part in her death. That would be a stupid statement.

    An equally stupid statement is one which points out that it's a possibility. Of course it played a part in her death. As did every other facet of her life. Now if you want to make an argument that porn was the major cause of her death, go ahead. If you want to make an argument that porn is responsible for her death, go ahead. If you want to make an argument that porn is 'bad' because this happened, go ahead.

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  • #201
    prinz
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    28064212 wrote: »
    No-one has said that her career definitely didn't play a part in her death. That would be a stupid statement..

    It took another poster 8 pages to state that they accept the possibility. Which is what we were discussing.


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  • #202
    strobe
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    I saw the thread title, then I saw the page count. For a moment I was at a loss as to how such a thread could run to 14 pages. Then I noticed Prinz' name on the first and last page. Ahhh haaaa... it all became clear. It's moral crusade Friday. :pac:


  • #203
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    strobe wrote: »
    It's moral crusade Friday. :pac:

    It's Funny Friday now. I didn't fill the pages on my own ya know :pac:


  • #204
    28064212
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    What I said: no-one has said that her career definitely didn't play a part in her death
    prinz wrote: »
    It took another poster 8 pages to state that they accept the possibility. Which is what we were discussing.
    That is not what they were saying. They were saying that you did not know porn was a cause of her death. They've accepted that possibility all along

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  • #205
    MrStuffins
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    prinz wrote: »
    It took another poster 8 pages to state that they accept the possibility. Which is what we were discussing.
    28064212 wrote: »
    That is not what they were saying. They were saying that you did not know porn was a cause of her death. They've accepted that possibility all along

    Indeed. At least SOMEONE has been reading the posts.


  • #206
    prinz
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    28064212 wrote: »
    What I said: no-one has said that her career definitely didn't play a part in her death

    Porn didn't kill her, I think were the words. No perhaps, maybe, possible, likely, unlikely about that.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70202764&postcount=68

    28064212 wrote: »
    That is not what they were saying. They were saying that you did not know porn was a cause of her death. They've accepted that possibility all along

    Jesus. I said her career choice played a part. I never said 'porn killed her' or anything of the sort. It was another poster who came up with the "porn didn't kill her" line... which had no bearing on what I had said. And it was 8 pages before the same poster actually acknowledged that it may have been a possibility. Now just as I did not know porn was a definite factor (in my opinion though it was) nobody else knew it definitely wasn't a factor, however saying it wasn't apparently is fine. See the contradiction?

    Me: IMO porn played a part Others: Booooooo, you can't say that, it's stupid.

    Others: Porn didn't play a part.................... silence.


  • #207
    MrStuffins
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    prinz wrote: »
    Jesus. I said her career choice played a part. I never said 'porn killed her' or anything of the sort. .
    prinz wrote: »
    Indirectly yes the porn industry was to blame.............

    .


  • #208
    28064212
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    prinz wrote: »
    Porn didn't kill her, I think were the words.




    Jesus. I said her career choice played a part. I never said 'porn killed her' or anything of the sort. It was another poster who came up with the "porn didn't kill her" line... which had no bearing on what I had said. And it was 8 pages before the same poster actually acknowledged that it may have been a possibility.
    Porn didn't kill her. I can guarantee you that 100%. The fact that she is a porn actress may have played a significant role (although that is, at best, debateable), but it certainly didn't kill her. So the "8 pages" appears to have been based on you completely misinterpreting a statement which was correct.

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  • #209
    MrStuffins
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    prinz wrote: »
    Porn didn't kill her, I think were the words. No perhaps, maybe, possible, likely, unlikely about that.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70202764&postcount=68

    Marc Vivien Foe died on the football pitch. he had a heart condition which was probably made worse by the fact that he was a professional footballer.

    But football didn't kill him.


  • #210
    prinz
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    28064212 wrote: »
    Porn didn't kill her. I can guarantee you that 100%. The fact that she is a porn actress may have played a significant role (although that is, at best, debateable), but it certainly didn't kill her. So the "8 pages" appears to have been based on you completely misinterpreting a statement which was correct.

    No, a heart attack killled her. Again I never said porn killed her. What I said was that IMO it was due to the fact she was a porn star that she was in surgery getting operated on. In that way it played a part. Just as I said if she had been doing her shopping and dropped dead I wouldn't be claiming porn played a part.

    If the 8 pages is the issue surely the other poster could simply have clarified the issue, rather than argue in circles only then to say her career may have played a part?


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  • #211
    MrStuffins
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    prinz wrote: »
    No, a heart attack killled her. Again I never said porn killed her. What I said was that IMO it was due to the fact she was a porn star that she was in surgery getting operated on. In that way it played a part. Just as I said if she had been doing her shopping and dropped dead I wouldn't be claiming porn played a part.

    you said the porn industry was to blame. They're your words. No amount of back-tracking now can change that.
    If the 8 pages is the issue surely the other poster could simply have clarified the issue, rather than argue in circles only then to say her career may have played a part?

    there was nothing to clarify. You said porn was to blame, I said it wasn't, Simple!


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