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German porn actress dies after breast enlargement.

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  • #122
    jackiebaron
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    prinz wrote: »
    I never tried to "paint" any such thing. She died on the operating table. What I said is that IMO as things stand it's her career in porn that led to her being on that operating table on that day.

    If you want to go on claiming working in porn is as harmless to everyone as playing football go ahead.


    Nobody is stating that working in porn is harmless. Stop putting words into people's mouths. You made the staggeringly ludicrous assertion that the porn industry is responsible for this woman's death. I mentioned that she could have died from the heart attack that she suffered whilst having a wisdom tooth removed (or any other routine procedure) and you gave me the childish "but she didn't did she?" response.

    This woman sustained a heart attack whilst under anaesthetic and you blame the porn industry for her death because she wes getting another boob job. That is, quite frankly, pathetic. By the same logic you would say that the music industry killed a heavy metal guitarist because he contracted HIV or hepatitis while getting another tattoo. By your logic that rock star was pressured into getting a tattoo because that's "the look" for rock guitarists and the music industry is responsible.

    Please!


  • #123
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I get what you are saying, but you don't think that if she had a pre-existing heart condition, what would it matter whether she was in surgery or whether she was grocery shopping? Either way, porn didn't kill her.

    Of course. Her getting enlargement after enlargement had absolutely nothing to do with being a porn acrtess/star/whatever.
    MrStuffins wrote: »
    So are you going to show me where porn kills more than football then?

    I don't see what this has to do with anything since I already made clear that his career in football probably didn't help Foe, just as her career in porn probably didn't help Cora.
    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Speak for yourself.

    I know :( My local only has lounge boys. :pac:


  • #124
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    jackiebaron wrote: »
    I mentioned that she could have died from the heart attack that she suffered whilst having a wisdom tooth removed (or any other routine procedure) and you gave me the childish "but she didn't did she?" response.

    It's not childish response, it's an irrelevant point. She could have been hit by a bus.


  • #125
    testicle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    thebigbiffo wrote: »
    well that operation went tits up.

    and why the f'cuk could she only get to 75 BJ's? like, tbf, it's not exactly like putting in a 16 hour day down yer local salt mine :confused:

    There's only so much cum you can swallow, I'm led to believe...


  • #126
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    steve06 wrote: »
    Do you think this was related to her job prinz?

    What was her job?


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  • #127
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,434 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Prinz, you do realise that people outside of the porn industry get plastic surgery too right? How do you know she wasn't doing it to increase her self esteem?


  • #128
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Prinz, you do realise that people outside of the porn industry get plastic surgery too right? How do you know she wasn't doing it to increase her self esteem?

    I do believe I have already referred to that. I find it sad that's all, whether it's this girl dying getting her breasts enlarged or cyclists ruining themselves by doping etc. Of course if it was a cyclist dead while doping, it would be perfectly fine to refer to his profession, I doubt there'd be so many on to draw a distinction and claim that perhaps he just liked doping for the fun of it or because he had esteem issues, nothing at all to do with cycling.

    There was another example just the other night that I was appalled at. A contestant in America's Next Top Model, during the make-over show ( usually hair and make-up), being told they were going to widen the gap between her two front teeth, which they got a dentist to do with a dental saw. Don't know about anyone else but when I see a girl of about 20 being told she has to significantly and irreversibly alter her appearance just because judges on some shíte show decide it's the "in look" for the season it makes me sick.


  • #129
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    What if she was grocery shopping for a bannana or cucumber for a fetish shoot and she dropped dead of a heart attack, would that mean porn still killed her?


  • #130
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,434 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    prinz wrote: »
    I do believe I have already referred to that.

    well nowhere at all does it say that she was undergoing surgery to enhance her career. So your whole arguement is based on conjecture!


  • #131
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    prinz wrote: »
    Of course. Her getting enlargement after enlargement had absolutely nothing to do with being a porn acrtess/star/whatever.
    As mentioned, implants need to be replaced after a few years. She could have had them before she was a porn star and would have needed them replaced as maintenance.
    prinz wrote: »
    What was her job?
    Does it really matter? She died while in surgery!


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  • #132
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    prinz - come on. surely you can see that nobody was to blame for this womans death except possibly the surgeon and more likely herself. you might as well just blame societies obsession with travelling from A to B quickly with road deaths, or people falling down lift shafts on the price of city centre land leading to high rises - it's patently ridiculous.

    nobody forced this girl to have a tit job - nobody forced me to put my life at risk this morning when i sped up my car passed the speed limit to make my train, but if i died you wouldn't blame the fact i had to work. the list is endless - it's a silly position to take. any woman has a right to film herself having sex and profiting from it and if she makes the decision herself a tit job = more profit then so be it. saying 'pressures of the industry' lead to her death is like saying aircraft passengers are to blame for an air traffic controllers stress induced stroke...it's bloody siilly!


  • #133
    28064212
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    Prinz, what's your point? Your first post was "And still some people consider it a great line of work". What does that have to do with anything? Is football a horrific line of work too?

    Since then, your point seems to revolve around "bad things can happen in porn", and an implication that some people deny that. Has anyone, anywhere on boards said that porn is a perfect industry?

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  • #134
    jackiebaron
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    prinz wrote: »
    It's not childish response, it's an irrelevant point. She could have been hit by a bus.

    But it's NOT an irrelevant pont. You stated that the porn industry is responsible for this woman's death because she happened to be getting a boob job when she suffered a heart attack.
    It's very relevant for me to ask you if the mainstream film industry would be responsible for her death because she had a heart attack during facial or dental cosmetic work in order to enhance her appearance for the cameras.
    You made this preposterous assertion and instead of taking responsibilty for its stupidity you simply try to move the goalposts or deflect the issue.


  • #135
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    well nowhere at all does it say that she was undergoing surgery to enhance her career. So your whole arguement is based on conjecture!

    Nowhere does it say she had a pre-existing heart condition either, apparently that's fine though.


  • #136
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,434 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    prinz wrote: »
    Nowhere does it say she had a pre-existing heart condition either.

    Indeed.

    But nowhere did I say a pre-existing heart condition killed her.

    You, however, are saying that porn killed her.


  • #137
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    prinz wrote: »
    Nowhere does it say she had a pre-existing heart condition either, apparently that's fine though.
    Come on, there's been plenty of examples of why this might have happened, yet you can not take your mind off the fact she was a porn star, and you're still blaming the porn industry!


  • #138
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    You, however, are saying that porn killed her.

    Actually I didn't. All I said was IMO it's her career that led her to so many breast operations. Apparently that's too much for some folk to even consider and the lengths they'll go to to deny any sort of link is baffling.


  • #139
    jackiebaron
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Indeed.

    But nowhere did I say a pre-existing heart condition killed her.

    You, however, are saying that porn killed her.

    The guy can't defend his assertion that the porn industry is responsible for her death so expect more side-stepping, obfuscation and prevarication.


  • #140
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    jackiebaron wrote: »
    ...expect more side-stepping, obfuscation and prevarication.

    The irony.


  • #141
    28064212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    prinz wrote: »
    Actually I didn't. All I said was IMO it's her career that led her to so many breast operations and therefore her career is bad. Apparently that's too much for some folk to even consider.
    Inserted the missing part of the post. That's what you've implied, hinted at and baldly stated. However, you have not produced anything to back that assertion up, just talked around it and refused to state your position

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  • #142
    MrStuffins
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    prinz wrote: »
    Actually I didn't. All I said was IMO it's her career that led her to so many breast operations. Apparently that's too much for some folk to even consider and the lengths they'll go to to deny any sort of link is baffling.

    Er, yes you did! You've been saying it all along. Just look at what you said after "actually I didn't". You are saying it was porn that killed her.

    Don't think just because you didn't say the words "porn killed her" that this is not what you are saying. People here are smart enough to be able to read between the lines.

    Either stick to your guns or don't. But don't claim you are not trying to say porn killed her.


  • #143
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,443 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    prinz wrote: »
    Actually I didn't. All I said was IMO it's her career that led her to so many breast operations..

    thats really her choice not anybody elses, people like Sasha Grey and marie mccray are much bigger names in the industry and they didn't have one operation


  • #144
    jackiebaron
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    prinz wrote: »
    Actually I didn't. All I said was IMO it's her career that led her to so many breast operations. Apparently that's too much for some folk to even consider and the lengths they'll go to to deny any sort of link is baffling.


    Actually, you DID.

    Here's a quote of yours:

    "Indirectly yes the porn industry was to blame....and there are people who love to view the porn and sex industry in general through rose tinted glasses. Perhaps this unfortunate death might give people a cause to pause and consider the negative aspects of the industry. "

    Here you state that the porn industry is to blame for her death.
    I have searched back and cannot find anywhere where you stated that "in your opinion" the porn industry is responsible for her getting so many boob jobs.


  • #145
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Er, yes you did! You've been saying it all along. Just look at what you said after "actually I didn't". You are saying it was porn that killed her..

    I said her career choice indirectly led to her death. Just like someone competing to be a top cyclist and dying because of doping, their career choice indirectly led to their death.


  • #146
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,434 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    prinz wrote: »
    I said her career choice indirectly led to her death.

    Thank you


  • #147
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    prinz wrote: »
    I said her career choice indirectly led to her death.

    Now, try and back that up with a fact.


  • #148
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Thank you

    Your welcome. You are also welcome to sit back and say there is no link whatsoever between the two.


  • #149
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,434 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    prinz wrote: »
    I said her career choice indirectly led to her death. Just like someone competing to be a top cyclist and dying because of doping, their career choice indirectly led to their death.

    ah, nice ninja edit!

    well, if a cyclist was doping, it would to enhance performance. I don't see how her having breasts made of plastic would allow her to perform better.

    but this is not the point, it is YOU who are saying she was having the operation as a direct result of being a porn star. This is conjecture!


  • #150
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,434 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    prinz wrote: »
    Your welcome. You are also welcome to sit back and say there is no link whatsoever between the two.

    Why would i do that? That would be conjecture. I don't know there is a direct link between her surgery and her career! I'm not the one making claims are to why she died, you are!


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  • #151
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    well, if a cyclist was doping, it would to enhance performance. I don't see how her having breasts made of plastic would allow her to perform better.

    If you are going to go down this route continuing on is pointless. Are you going to argue that Pamela Anderson's 'assets' had no bearing on her career either?


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