Synthetic Diamonds

Scanlas The 2nd · 20-01-2011 03:02PM #1

Inspired by the engagement ring thread.

Synthetic diamonds are better ( fewer flaws) than natural diamonds as far as I'm aware and are also cheaper yet people still don't by them.

If I ever want to buy diamonds I will buy synthetic ones.

So what's up with all the people buying natural diamonds, are they a bit slow?

Degag · 20-01-2011 03:03PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Inspired by the engagement ring thread.

Synthetic diamonds are better ( fewer flaws) than natural diamonds as far as I'm aware and are also cheaper yet people still don't by them.

If I ever want to buy diamonds I will buy synthetic ones.

So what's up with all the people buying natural diamonds, are they a bit slow?

Because if the wimmins ever found out, there would be war.

red menace · 20-01-2011 03:04PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Inspired by the engagement ring thread.

Synthetic diamonds are better ( fewer flaws) than natural diamonds as far as I'm aware and are also cheaper yet people still don't by them.

If I ever want to buy diamonds I will buy synthetic ones.

So what's up with all the people buying natural diamonds, are they a bit slow?

The real value of Diamond is it's not abundant in supply

FatherLen · 20-01-2011 03:06PM

having a wank is easier and quicker than going out and finding someone who is willing to have sex with you but in no way is it better. the real thing always wins

Joey the lips · 20-01-2011 03:08PM

a good diamond is like a good women.

Very Rare

Very Beautiful(naturally)

and

Very expensive

If you had loads of plastic synthetic ones you could not appreciate there beauty or would end up with a kerry katonia or Katie price.

phill106 · 20-01-2011 03:09PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Inspired by the engagement ring thread.

Synthetic diamonds are better ( fewer flaws) than natural diamonds as far as I'm aware and are also cheaper yet people still don't by them.

If I ever want to buy diamonds I will buy synthetic ones.

So what's up with all the people buying natural diamonds, are they a bit slow?

Do me a favour, if you are a man and about to propose, try out a synthetic diamond in a ring. Let me know how that works out for you!

20-01-2011 03:09PM

Joey the lips wrote: »

a good diamond is like a good women.

Very Rare

Very Beautiful(naturally)

and

Very expensive

If you had loads of plastic synthetic ones you could not appreciate there beauty or would end up with a kerry katonia or Katie price.

They're not plastic, they're all compressed carbon

Scanlas The 2nd · 20-01-2011 03:11PM

Joey the lips wrote: »

a good diamond is like a good women.

Very Rare

Very Beautiful(naturally)

and

Very expensive

If you had loads of plastic synthetic ones you could not appreciate there beauty or would end up with a kerry katonia or Katie price.

The only way to tell the difference between synthetic ones and natural ones is that a synthetic one is more than likely too perfect to be a natural one.

Dravokivich · 20-01-2011 03:16PM

Joey the lips wrote: »

If you had loads of plastic synthetic ones you could not appreciate there beauty or would end up with a kerry katonia or Katie price.

I remember watching a great way to make'em on mythbusters once.

it involved a lot of Dynamite...

FTGFOP · 20-01-2011 03:16PM

I thought synthetic diamonds were more expensive and only made for industrial applications?

Wibbs · 20-01-2011 03:18PM

red menace wrote: »

The real value of Diamond is whatever DeBeers decides it is

FYP Diamonds, except for exceptional(and usually strongly coloured) ones weren't particularly valued before about 100 years ago(rubys, emeralds and sapphires held much more cache. Rubies are still more valued carat for carat than diamonds). Then the hype grew around them. It's all about advertising and keeping deBeers and their cronies in the supply chain in business. It really is one of those conspiracies that's actually true.

They rigidly control the supply. Diamonds are not that rare. Much of this talk of "blood diamonds" is more about them controlling the supply and keeping the price up, than any humanitarian concern. I wouldnt be looking to closely at their official diamond mines on that score. I dont see the locals actually digging them out getting rich.

TBH I always found them bloodless weak looking yokes.

Canis Lupus · 20-01-2011 03:21PM

Joey the lips wrote: »

a good diamond is like a good women.

Very Rare

Very Beautiful(naturally)

and

Very expensive

If you had loads of plastic synthetic ones you could not appreciate there beauty or would end up with a kerry katonia or Katie price.

Synthetic diamonds are identical to the real thing except fewer flaws. They're so good they have to be etched microscopically. Moreover, diamonds aren't rare it's just for years DeBeers created false demand by controlling the market.

What's hilarious about diamonds is they're only expensive because it's what we expect. If diamonds were cheap (which is perfectly possible) no one would want one.

pickarooney · 20-01-2011 03:24PM

Kryptonite engagement ring or GTFO.

listermint · 20-01-2011 03:29PM

phill106 wrote: »

Do me a favour, if you are a man and about to propose, try out a synthetic diamond in a ring. Let me know how that works out for you!

i guarantee you, you or your the moth that you were giving it to couldnt tell the dam difference. :rolleyes:

Jesus Wept · 20-01-2011 03:29PM

They are a bit dull when you think about it.

Crucifix · 20-01-2011 03:31PM

From wikipedia:

Gem-quality diamonds grown in a lab can be chemically, physically and optically identical to naturally occurring ones, although they can be distinguished by spectroscopy in infrared, ultraviolet, or X-ray wavelengths. The DiamondView tester from De Beers uses UV fluorescence to detect trace impurities of nitrogen, nickel or other metals in HPHT or CVD diamonds.[88]

Logical Fallacy · 20-01-2011 03:31PM

Wibbs wrote: »

FYP Diamonds, except for exceptional(and usually strongly coloured) ones weren't particularly valued before about 100 years ago(rubys, emeralds and sapphires held much more cache. Rubies are still more valued carat for carat than diamonds). Then the hype grew around them. It's all about advertising and keeping deBeers and their cronies in the supply chain in business. It really is one of those conspiracies that's actually true.

They rigidly control the supply. Diamonds are not that rare. Much of this talk of "blood diamonds" is more about them controlling the supply and keeping the price up, than any humanitarian concern. I wouldnt be looking to closely at their official diamond mines on that score. I dont see the locals actually digging them out getting rich.

TBH I always found them bloodless weak looking yokes.

1948, that was the year De Deers started the "Diamonds are forever", but the Ad Agency basically paraphrased it from the book "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes".

Basically the whole diamond ring being demanded for an engagement ring is a sign of exactly how gullible society is the impact a strong advertising campaign can have.

Sisko · 20-01-2011 03:37PM

jaysus, learn something new everyday.

Still I imagine bringing this up to a random everyday women who likes jewellery would result in them scoffing at you for being a killjoy nerd and proceeding to continue the love for wrongly expensive rocks.

Tar.Aldarion · 20-01-2011 03:42PM

Nothing is more cultured than a synthetic diamond :pac:

Guill · 20-01-2011 03:44PM

I want a rock that some guy has broke his back to get out of the ground, i want it to have at least the blood of 7 people on it and i always like to know how little the labourers got paid to do this work.

Lumen · 20-01-2011 03:50PM

Where is the information that synthetic diamonds with equivalent properties are cost-effective compared to their natural counterparts?

I googled briefly but got nothing other than a bunch of coloured yokes that look pretty nasty.

Tar.Aldarion · 20-01-2011 04:00PM

Lumen wrote: »

Where is the information that synthetic diamonds with equivalent properties are cost-effective compared to their natural counterparts?

I googled briefly but got nothing other than a bunch of coloured yokes that look pretty nasty.

google shows they sell at 30-50% lower and as for thoe coloured ones, saw one for 23 grand and the synthetic was 7

Dravokivich · 20-01-2011 04:12PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

google shows they sell at 30-50% lower and as for thoe coloured ones, saw one for 23 grand and the synthetic was 7

think they meant manufacturing costs :-P

Tar.Aldarion · 20-01-2011 04:13PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

think they meant manufacturing costs :-P

Well it costs like a billion to make a mine so...

wes · 20-01-2011 04:36PM

Its one of those things I have never understood. We can't make Gold, so I get why thats valuable to a certain degree, but we can make diamonds, so the whole rarity things goes out the Window right away.

Wibbs · 20-01-2011 04:38PM

Crucifix wrote: »

From wikipedia:

Yea and you'll note the name of the monopoly company on the "fake" detector.

Joey the lips wrote: »

a good diamond is like a good women.

Very Rare

Very Beautiful(naturally)

and

Very expensive

Naw I'd say diamonds are like tarted up dangerously blonde dolly birds. Its all about the lighting, they're not rare, they're way overpriced for what you end up with and you really dont wanna see one in the rough.

phill106 wrote: »

Do me a favour, if you are a man and about to propose, try out a synthetic diamond in a ring. Let me know how that works out for you!

90% of women(or men) wouldnt have a clue about the difference. Saying a diamond is the highest quality gem is like saying a Tag Heuer is the highest quality watch. Its all about advertising. I can pretty much guarantee that if you gave the vast majority of people a rhinestone ring they'll not spot it, never mind a synthetic diamond. In any event if I did get engaged and the woman in question turned down say a ruby ring because "diamonds are forever" or some bs, I'd scrape her off as a moron TBH.

prinz · 20-01-2011 04:51PM

Wibbs wrote: »

90% of women(or men) wouldnt have a clue about the difference..

Same goes for most real diamonds, barring say a significant size difference in the stone itself.

The up-selling that goes on in jewellers and the amount of people who fall for it is astonishing.

phasers · 20-01-2011 04:54PM

Does that eliminate the whole "blood diamond" thing? Is there any mining involved like?

I've always had a bit of an ethical issue with diamonds

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 20-01-2011 04:55PM

This thread reminds me of a story called The Diamond Maker by H.G. Wells

A fella decides to make diamonds by putting coal and dynamite in a sealed tube and firing it into a furnace. Great read though if you have time

Joey the lips · 20-01-2011 04:59PM

bluewolf wrote: »

They're not plastic, they're all compressed carbon

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

The only way to tell the difference between synthetic ones and natural ones is that a synthetic one is more than likely too perfect to be a natural one.

Dravokivich wrote: »

I remember watching a great way to make'em on mythbusters once.

it involved a lot of Dynamite...

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Synthetic diamonds are identical to the real thing except fewer flaws. They're so good they have to be etched microscopically. Moreover, diamonds aren't rare it's just for years DeBeers created false demand by controlling the market.

What's hilarious about diamonds is they're only expensive because it's what we expect. If diamonds were cheap (which is perfectly possible) no one would want one.

Wibbs wrote: »

Yea and you'll note the name of the monopoly company on the "fake" detector.

Naw I'd say diamonds are like tarted up dangerously blonde dolly birds. Its all about the lighting, they're not rare, they're way overpriced for what you end up with and you really dont wanna see one in the rough.

90% of women(or men) wouldnt have a clue about the difference. Saying a diamond is the highest quality gem is like saying a Tag Heuer is the highest quality watch. Its all about advertising. I can pretty much guarantee that if you gave the vast majority of people a rhinestone ring they'll not spot it, never mind a synthetic diamond. In any event if I did get engaged and the woman in question turned down say a ruby ring because "diamonds are forever" or some bs, I'd scrape her off as a moron TBH.

Jesus folks. 5 replies to one innocent quote.

Yes diamonds like people are carbon not plastic. Sorry,

They are rare though and will always be,

My quote was a joke to there beauty but hay

give me a cubic zirconian anyday..... Its cheaper on the wallet and hard to tell the difference

curlzy · 20-01-2011 05:01PM

Read that HG Wells story and agree it's very good. With regards the synthetic diamond, tbh I'd rather have one of those, if they're as nice as the real thing and half the price why wouldn't I? TBH though I really like saphires or emeralds, doesn't seem to be fashionable at the moment though so they're more pricey.

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