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Gerry Adams is the most popular candidate in Ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭GeorgeCostanza


    kev9100 wrote: »
    Adams is just an economic illiterate.

    Big deal. I wouldn't care if Adams was David McWilliams and John Maynard Keynes all rolled into one. He ordered the slaughter of innocents in the name of "the cause"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    ISAW wrote: »
    So was Ivor Callelly! So you won't mention him again?

    have i ever mentioned him? If I have, please tell me where. If I havent, then what exactly is your point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭COYW


    In fact, Fianna Fail are too left for some of us, can you imagine Sinn Fein? I shudder to think.

    That's the reason I won't vote Sinn Fein - the future, their ideology, their stance; not because of the past.

    Totally agree. I would never vote for them as a result of their past BUT I have also taken time to look at their policies and cant for the life of me figure out why people are going to vote for them. On economics, which is the central issue for me, Adams is woefully inept. If you are a worker in Ireland at the moment and think things are bad now, SFs policies will make things a whole lot tougher.

    If you are on the dole, its happy days. Boom time benefits will be coming back.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,142 ✭✭✭ISAW


    Het-Field wrote: »
    Of course when you remove context historical parallel can be one's best friend.

    Indeed. And when one forgets about principles, like suggesting having ex or active gunmen in a party and praising them is wrong, even the need to supply parallels disappears entirely.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,142 ✭✭✭ISAW


    maccored wrote: »
    have i ever mentioned him? If I have, please tell me where. If I havent, then what exactly is your point?

    Your words: [my clarification in square brackets
    There was a court case about these expenses [parliamentary expenses] and SF were exonerated.

    There was a court case and Ivor was exonerated too! so will you insist people stop dragging up Ivor's expenses just as you insist they stop dragging up SF expenses?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    He doesn't have much competition when it comes to popularity. After all, politicians in Ireland aren't exactly universally adored and lionised by the electorate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,788 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    ISAW wrote: »
    Your words: [my clarification in square brackets


    There was a court case and Ivor was exonerated too! so will you insist people stop dragging up Ivor's expenses just as you insist they stop dragging up SF expenses?

    my god. thats some barrel scraping you're doing there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Fitzerb


    Nehaxak wrote: »
    Argumentum ad nauseam at this stage.

    SF is not the IRA and the IRA are not SF, the IRA are a proscribed and illegal organisation under Irish law and as such, if any SF members are also for some reason a member of the IRA, they would be charged with belonging to an illegal proscribed terrorist group. Unless you for some reason also think the Garda are protecting them ? The very same Garda from the very same force with which you suggest SF members were involved in the murder of in some way ? :rolleyes:

    Who the hell are you trying to fool with your propaganda ffs, it's old, boring, tiring and utterly childish. Whoop de doo, you hate SF, big deal - get over yourself if you think you're going to make any difference on Boards.ie with your anti SF rant - there's only about 2 or 3 Republican posters left on this forum who ever post here anymore, and one of them is a mod. The rest have gone to Politics.ie or elsewhere, where they can democratically debate actual policies and politics in Ireland, in a more adult and grown up environment.
    Go post your rant in the Sinn Fein forum over there and see how long you last, your ramblings will probably be pulled to pieces by others before an actual SF supporter even gets a chance to reply.



    Yawn....
    http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/16460

    Their expenses are and always have been out in the open for all to see, totally and utterly transparent. While you're over at Politics.ie defending your great crusade against SF, feel free to mention that one while you're there.


    Why do I need to go to the SF forum for a MORE adult and grown up environment are you suggesting that the SF posters here are not grown up. ?
    So Ferris did not seek the early release of the murders of Gerry Mc Cabe......... and McGuinness was never a member of the IRA and SF are not nor ever were linked to the IRA.
    The IRA just laid down their arms and bombs because they casually met Gerry in pub for the first time, had a few pints and said "Gerry your right lets disarm....And Pigs will fly And Santa came on Christmas Day, And the three little pigs went to the market. This is fairy tale stuff

    SF are the IRA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Fitzerb wrote: »
    SF are the IRA.

    MOD:

    In your opinion. Because until there is a legal statement which charges all Sinn Fein members with being IRA terrorists, that's exactly all it is, opinion.

    And I'm quite aware that often, popular opinion is the truth, just as I'm aware that it often isn't.

    In this case, for the sake of debate and discussion, if you are going to make such accusations I EXPECT you will link to the actual documented charges and convictions against all individuals.

    I'm quite fed up with the mudslinging on both sides of this particular divide. We will be looking at better ways to moderate these threads.

    In the mean time, those employing hyperbole, rumor or conjecture as fact will be admonished.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,142 ✭✭✭ISAW


    maccored wrote: »
    my god. thats some barrel scraping you're doing there.

    I'm simply pointing out if people claim to subscribe to principles they can't apply them with a double standard depending on to whom they apply them.


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