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  • #482
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    chebonaparte wrote: »
    ok disinformers just take a look over skies over gorey!!!!!

    how you gonna explain these 1s away!?

    right now!!!!


    now if you still deny that your all bunch blind idiots !!!

    oh and pls !n get your local councilors to explain them blatant all over skies across sun now!!!

    worst case chemtrail here yet!

    We don't all live in Gorey so unless you post a pic we have no idea what you are referring to.


  • #483
    chebonaparte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭chebonaparte


    i took pics on my phone.

    there good for a phone.

    but i cant upload them my laptop infared and bluetooth never worked and ive no usb for sony ericson phone..

    1st time i got a warning on boards .ie

    "received warning for calling blind idiots and disinformer agents"

    actualy i never said agents only disinformers.

    am just realy worried concerned and angry outraged to wake up to this chemtrails spraying every morning!

    lots local people are getting sick and ill with sinus problems, nasal, ear infections, tonsilitis, eye problems

    the planes were still flying and spraying few mins ago.

    now the trails today the kriss krossed and more planes maybe 6-8 am not sure bcos they kept circling or back tracking

    ive been busy but took phone cam pics.

    my friend on beach walk yday reckons they are flying coming from wales direction..

    govt claiming ignorance is not good enough they should know whos planes are over irish skies and what theyre spraying and what for


  • #484
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    chebonaparte wrote: »
    i took pics on my phone.

    there good for a phone.

    but i cant upload them my laptop infared and bluetooth never worked and ive no usb for sony ericson phone..

    1st time i got a warning on boards .ie

    ""

    am just realy worried concerned and angry outraged to wake up to this chemtrails spraying every morning!

    lots local people are getting sick and ill with sinus problems, nasal, ear infections, tonsilitis, eye problems

    the planes were still flying and spraying few mins ago.

    now the trails today the kriss krossed and more planes maybe 6-8 am not sure bcos they kept circling or back tracking

    ive been busy but took phone cam pics.

    my friend on beach walk yday reckons they are flying coming from wales direction..

    govt claiming ignorance is not good enough they should know whos planes are over irish skies and what theyre spraying and what for

    Again, how have you come to the conclusion that they are chemtrails and not contrails?


  • #485
    chebonaparte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭chebonaparte


    namloc1980 them pics are interesting and curious

    but what are the planes behind them.

    the contrails are so prevalent almost exaggerated in both pics i wonder are they doctored on photoshop?

    theres alot evidences the military espec usa and britains militaries have

    (see alot declassified material from cia, fbi, and sas releases aswell as u.n documents published -admit to geoengineering and weather modification)

    experimented with weather modification since ww2 espec during 60s
    and in the old series "NAM" books was monthly collectible it showed how they showed b-52 dropping crystals at high altitude could make it rain way back then.

    kingmob them pics u put up recently are also fascinating interesting ive never witnessed such before at any airshows i went to and curious however the cloud /vapour or steam whatever you want to call it off the planes at airshows in them pics do not leave lingering trails liek chemtrails do that later disperse and caused silver grey clouds like outside todays.


  • #486
    chebonaparte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭chebonaparte


    thecommander

    quick-scan over the thread and you will find many links with video documents that pointing towards aluminium / barium toxicity levels increasing and killing nature ie birds, fish, hippies crops on organic farms, they resorted to buying monsanto's (infamous corporate see "food inc." docu )own aluminium resistant geneticaly modified patented crops.

    this thread there is ample proof of the differences between a normal contrail and a chemtrail. just research and study bothsides up. the main differences are obvious to keen eye. contrails disapear within seconds being water vapour and normal exhausts. chemtrails are thicker longer more visible when being sprayed out of planes wings they are more linear horizontal parallel and then kriss krossed. over and after 30mins to hour they disperse fully adn form thin veiled like clouds even appear sinister. adn sadly i look out i see them now and yet another jet spraying as i type.

    i wish they were only just contrails.


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  • #487
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    chebonaparte wrote: »
    kingmob them pics u put up recently are also fascinating interesting ive never witnessed such before at any airshows i went to and curious however the cloud /vapour or steam whatever you want to call it off the planes at airshows in them pics do not leave lingering trails liek chemtrails do that later disperse and caused silver grey clouds like outside todays.
    The altitude that it happens at will probably be a factor in how long it persists - I'd imagine it hangs around longer at higher altitudes.

    Re. the government pleading ignorance regarding the flights - have they done this? I'd be astonished if any planes in our airspace were unidentified. So you can be pretty sure that the identity of all these planes is known.


  • #488
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    chebonaparte wrote: »
    this thread there is ample proof of the differences between a normal contrail and a chemtrail. just research and study bothsides up. the main differences are obvious to keen eye. contrails disapear within seconds being water vapour and normal exhausts. chemtrails are thicker longer more visible when being sprayed out of planes wings they are more linear horizontal parallel and then kriss krossed. over and after 30mins to hour they disperse fully adn form thin veiled like clouds even appear sinister. adn sadly i look out i see them now and yet another jet spraying as i type.

    i wish they were only just contrails.
    Contrails don't disappear within seconds! They hang around possibly for hours. Always have.


  • #489
    chebonaparte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭chebonaparte


    yes monty. i understand altitude and temp can alter appearances. am not disputing that. but chemtrails are painfully more visible. and i never claimed to be an expert i am curious and concerned citizen

    perhaps am not making myself clear.

    i was referring to american senators usa govt claiming ignorance alot senators did and do although evidence contrary to their claims contradicts them. its in docus such as "what in the world are they spraying on us" which is by no means perfect either.

    other docus such as Rosalind Peterson

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJZFyQRLlKM&feature=related


  • #490
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Now you must ask yourself why are the US government spraying Gorey?


  • #491
    chebonaparte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭chebonaparte


    a friend showed me this.

    the headline name is misleading.

    but this will raise few eyebrows!

    lol

    the chinese openly admitting and boasting claiming control of the weather hmmm

    lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpC4Jkbs6I4&feature=related


    hmmmmmmm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNFy2xFPMIo&NR=1


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  • #492
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    chebonaparte wrote: »
    a friend showed me this.

    the headline name is misleading.

    but this will raise few eyebrows!

    lol

    the chinese openly admitting and boasting claiming control of the weather hmmm

    lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpC4Jkbs6I4&feature=related
    They've been seeding for rain since the 30's or 40's I think. They used to use cannons or something to fire the chemicals up there.


  • #493
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    I dont know does 8 or 9 trails over Kildare all planes traveling in same direction one after the other sound right?


  • #494
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    caseyann wrote: »
    I dont know does 8 or 9 trails over Kildare all planes traveling in same direction one after the other sound right?
    Why would it sound wrong? We've discussed the 'roundabout in the sky' concept already, haven't we?

    If you saw 8 or 9 cars follow each other around a roundabout, you wouldn't be that surprised.


  • #495
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Why would it sound wrong? We've discussed the 'roundabout in the sky' concept already, haven't we?

    If you saw 8 or 9 cars follow each other around a roundabout, you wouldn't be that surprised.

    Would you ever look up once in a while :D


  • #496
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    caseyann wrote: »
    I dont know does 8 or 9 trails over Kildare all planes traveling in same direction one after the other sound right?

    Many trans-Atlantic flights to the UK, France, Germany etc. use Irish airspace on their routes to North America. Trans-Atlantic air traffic is very busy as you can imagine so 8 or 9 planes flying over Kildare sounds pretty normal.


  • #497
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    caseyann wrote: »
    Would you ever look up once in a while :D
    But we keep supplying information that indicates that there's nothing wrong, and you aren't poking any holes in that information! So if what we are saying is true (and it is) then why do you persist with the belief that something funny is going on over Gorey/Kildare?


  • #498
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    chebonaparte wrote: »
    namloc1980 them pics are interesting and curious

    but what are the planes behind them.

    the contrails are so prevalent almost exaggerated in both pics i wonder are they doctored on photoshop?

    More contrails from WW2:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo6rgrnY6TU


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfOrez6q7WM


  • #499
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    More contrails from WW2:
    Wow - they had already started covering their tracks in the chemtrail conspiracy during WW2!


  • #500
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    chebonaparte wrote: »
    contrails disapear within seconds being water vapour and normal exhausts. chemtrails are thicker longer more visible when being sprayed out of planes wings they are more linear horizontal parallel and then kriss krossed.

    It's fairly obvious from that statement you haven't a clue about the difference.


  • #501
    chebonaparte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭chebonaparte


    thecommander wrote: »
    It's fairly obvious from that statement you haven't a clue about the difference.

    ok what makes you the expert!?

    teach us oh smart one!

    if ur gona criticise do so constructively.

    its easy to sit on fence n be critical.

    but what do you offer as explanation.

    that the ww2 pics make it ok.

    we know they experimented with chemtrails then too.

    what an arguement - they did it in past so look irs ok normal!?

    is it acceptable for any1 for any reason to spray on public skies ALUMINIUM AND BARIUM?

    OBVIOUSLY NOT. NO. NO. NO.

    so that argument is negligeable.

    i notice not 1of yee denyers has come to counter the volume of vids docus i offered up for debate on this thread! ?

    and believe me i hope im wrong and your right.

    bcos if half of whats out there about chemtrails is even remotley true ...

    MAY GOD HELP US ALL

    ... today more heavy spraying.

    everytime i go out now i feel throat nose run acting up. cpugh.

    i feel ill today severe headaches, nausea and fever.

    the sky was veiled today by chemtrails.

    there is something very wrong if you persist in denying the truth


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  • #502
    *melanie*
    Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭*melanie*


    ok, I posted this in the Kilkenny forum a couple days ago...
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70140307#post70140307

    But seriously, I am not buying the ''this is normal'' thing.

    I always look to the sky, but the increase of air traffic in the last few days is just undeniable, and astounding me.

    In the post you see from that link, that was the info from a fday or two ago. Now Today, it's been even more so.

    This is NOT normal!
    Chemtrails - Contrails, I don't bloody know, but something is definitely going on. No doubt about it.


  • #503
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    chebonaparte wrote: »
    that the ww2 pics make it ok.

    we know they experimented with chemtrails then too.
    They did? Do you have proof? And they did it during dogfights?
    chebonaparte wrote: »
    is it acceptable for any1 for any reason to spray on public skies ALUMINIUM AND BARIUM?
    I know that in drought afflicted areas they seed clouds.
    chebonaparte wrote: »
    i notice not 1of yee denyers has come to counter the volume of vids docus i offered up for debate on this thread! ?
    What's the point? There's a huge volume of videos out there claiming that Obama is a Muslim, it doesn't make it true. A single video with the facts will debunk all of them.
    chebonaparte wrote: »
    and believe me i hope im wrong and your right.
    Me too...
    chebonaparte wrote: »
    bcos if half of whats out there about chemtrails is even remotley true ...

    MAY GOD HELP US ALL
    Don't worry, it's not true.
    chebonaparte wrote: »
    ... today more heavy spraying.
    ...I doubt it...
    chebonaparte wrote: »
    everytime i go out now i feel throat nose run acting up. cpugh.

    i feel ill today severe headaches, nausea and fever.
    I hope your obsession with chemtrails is not affecting your health? You know we are in the middle of 'flu season
    chebonaparte wrote: »
    there is something very wrong if you persist in denying the truth
    But what is the truth? You haven't proved anything. Any 'evidence' you have supplied has been explained or refuted.


  • #504
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    demonspawn wrote: »
    I'm sure you can explain this video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9KLLqEL96Y

    I see some clouds and some aeroplanes


  • #505
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    AhSureTisGrand wrote: »
    I see some clouds and some aeroplanes
    We know they are at the same height because the guy on the ground says so. Any other factors (type of engine, atmospheric conditions etc) are all irrelevant. :rolleyes:


  • #506
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    chebonaparte wrote: »
    ... today more heavy spraying.

    everytime i go out now i feel throat nose run acting up. cpugh.

    i feel ill today severe headaches, nausea and fever.

    the sky was veiled today by chemtrails.

    there is something very wrong if you persist in denying the truth

    What truth?? If you are so concerned and you think this is making you sick, why don't you get a few samples of air tested??? That should conclusively prove that "they" are spraying nasty stuff in Gorey. It really is that simple. There is no restriction on access to the atmosphere - you breath it all day every day.


  • #507
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    I am greatly amused by any grandiose conspiracy theories surrounding the Irish government. To suggest that they are actually capable of anything significant...


  • #508
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    That's all part of their deception.
    Perhaps chebonaparte could start wearing a face mask if he's that worried.
    Why aren't the authorities wearing them?
    But of course he'll get better since it's probably a cold any improvement will simply be regression to the mean.


  • #509
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,225 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I wonder if anyone is recording the variations in diurnal temperatures when contrasted with the number of observed persistent contrals. There is already evidence to show that run-of-the-mill contrails cause changes in these variations. Why are people so preoccupied with fighting straw men when facts like that exist?

    Contrails can and do have an effect on our weather. Is any of it taken into accout when forecasting though? Maybe there's a reason that so many people are noticing these contrails now, as opposed to 10 years ago. It seems bizzare to me that contrails are so difficult to predict, or why virtually no data exists which allows people to do so.


  • #510
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,442 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    This is of course an interesting point. Unfortunately the debate over contrails gets lost in a whole lot of tinfoil hattery with claims of chemicals being used to poison us etc. as can be seen in this thread. The real issue is that when the conditions are right contrails are, in effect, clouds. Do these clouds affect our weather in anyway? Who knows. One thing for sure is that with more and more air traffic in our skies, more and more contrails will become clouds. This of course will continue to fuel the chemtrail hyteria. So until we can come up with a way of powering our aircraft without burning fossil fuel, then this issue is here to stay.


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  • #511
    caseyann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    More contrails from WW2:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo6rgrnY6TU


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfOrez6q7WM

    Are we at war? :confused:


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