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CHEMTRAILS

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    you should prob research the science of contrails and their resultant behaviour. conts do not behave in any distinctive paterns as they dissipate very quickly. eg when your kettle boils the water vapour does not hang around for hours at a time. it EVAPORATES. also you should research the activity of real cloud formation over ireland, ie cumulus and stratus cloud formation. also see the discovery channel-chemtrails. its a fact,its been admitted to through several world goverments.sorry to burst your bubble... see http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kqyKXUCZ6j8 very informed guy !!!!! enjoy
    quit with the smug atitude and maybe read the link i posted about how contrails dont disapate instantly(think of clouds)

    http://asd-www.larc.nasa.gov/GLOBE/science.html

    http://contrailscience.com/how-long-do-contrails-last/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 saraskas


    So it's weather modification then? Rather than them trying to poison us?
    You can name whatever you want- like weather modification or geoengineering but the fact is they spraying chemicals like aluminum oxide, barium and strontium according to documentary "What in the world they are spraying".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    saraskas wrote: »
    You can name whatever you want- like weather modification or geoengineering but the fact is they spraying chemicals like aluminum oxide, barium and strontium according to documentary "What in the world they are spraying".
    What sources does that documentary cite? Are the sources credible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,225 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    What sources does that documentary cite? Are the sources credible?

    The study is linked to on this page, it also gives reasons why the study itself was flawed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The scientific methodology used in "What in the World are they Spraying" is very flawed to the point where it is IMHO useless.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The scientific methodology used in "What in the World are they Spraying" is very flawed to the point where it is IMHO useless.

    You seem to have vested interest or fear? In attacking all posts in regards to chemtrails.Do they pay you well :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    caseyann wrote: »
    You seem to have vested interest or fear? In attacking all posts in regards to chemtrails.Do they pay you well :D
    He must be one of them :)

    That, or he actually looks into the validity of the claims before deciding that they are true or false.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    caseyann wrote: »
    You seem to have vested interest or fear? In attacking all posts in regards to chemtrails.Do they pay you well :D

    Can you not discuss the topic without resorting to insults? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Can you not discuss the topic without resorting to insults? :rolleyes:

    How was that an insult it was a joke :) It is a CT forum isnt it?
    And my CT would be that they send people to try discredit this stuff as much as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    caseyann wrote: »
    How was that an insult it was a joke :) It is a CT forum isnt it?
    And my CT would be that they send people to try discredit this stuff as much as possible.
    Or else ordinary people actually check into the claims and find that they don't stack up? Which is more likely? Are the people they send just ordinary folks like your family and friends, or am I typing from the Pentagon or what? :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    caseyann wrote: »
    How was that an insult it was a joke :) It is a CT forum isnt it?
    And my CT would be that they send people to try discredit this stuff as much as possible.

    So if someone doesn't agree with a particular CT then they are automatically assumed to be some sort of paid agent. For all I know you are a paid agent of those people who peddle the "chemtrail" theory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭chebonaparte


    well for all yee doubters in deniers and disinfo .

    look up in the Gorey Wexford skies right now and film or photo whats happening right now and then seriously try n tell us that thats just contrails ! youd want your heads examined!

    chemtrails 4 planes spraying as i speak. my friend says they are cominn form east most mornings. meaning most likely Britain. ?

    it would ne brilliant blue perfect skies today and beaming sun.

    But instead the planes have already created the chemtrail haze which if you watched it over time it disperses eventualy forming artificial chemtrail clouds.

    you can tell them miles away , natural clouds cna be round and fluffy comulus. chemtrail clouds are mostly thin veiled clouds and leave trail marks of exiting trails .

    come on lads wake up and look up over your heads!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    well for all yee doubters in deniers and disinfo .

    look up in the Gorey Wexford skies right now and film or photo whats happening right now and then seriously try n tell us that thats just contrails ! youd want your heads examined!

    chemtrails 4 planes spraying as i speak. my friend says they are cominn form east most mornings. meaning most likely Britain. ?

    it would ne brilliant blue perfect skies today and beaming sun.

    But instead the planes have already created the chemtrail haze which if you watched it over time it disperses eventualy forming artificial chemtrail clouds.

    you can tell them miles away , natural clouds cna be round and fluffy comulus. chemtrail clouds are mostly thin veiled clouds and leave trail marks of exiting trails .

    come on lads wake up and look up over your heads!

    Saw three of them tis morning following each other across the sky from Blessington.Two came from direction of Wicklow and traveled towards Dublin. One came from other direction and when it caught up with the other two changed direction to follow them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    caseyann wrote: »
    Saw three of them tis morning following each other across the sky from Blessington.Two came from direction of Wicklow and traveled towards Dublin. One came from other direction and when it caught up with the other two changed direction to follow them.
    As if it had been diverted onto the same 'aerial roundabout' pattern that the other guys were on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    As if it had been diverted onto the same 'aerial roundabout' pattern that the other guys were on?


    That would be it yes,like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    well for all yee doubters in deniers and disinfo .

    look up in the Gorey Wexford skies right now and film or photo whats happening right now and then seriously try n tell us that thats just contrails ! youd want your heads examined!

    chemtrails 4 planes spraying as i speak. my friend says they are cominn form east most mornings. meaning most likely Britain. ?

    it would ne brilliant blue perfect skies today and beaming sun.

    But instead the planes have already created the chemtrail haze which if you watched it over time it disperses eventualy forming artificial chemtrail clouds.

    you can tell them miles away , natural clouds cna be round and fluffy comulus. chemtrail clouds are mostly thin veiled clouds and leave trail marks of exiting trails .

    come on lads wake up and look up over your heads!

    Contrails......it's contrails. They have been around as long as aircraft have been around, such as these B17s and fighters from WW2:

    1940sBombersWithEscorts.jpg

    Do a simple google search...WW2 contrails and you will get literally hundreds of image results showing all sorts of contrails, from short lived ones to long lived persistent and spreading ones.

    1940chemtrailsomfg-full.jpg

    So unless you can prove that there is actually something in these contrails besides water vapour, CO2 and some CO that shouldn't be there then you have nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Contrails......it's contrails. They have been around as long as aircraft have been around, such as these B17s and fighters from WW2:

    1940sBombersWithEscorts.jpg

    Do a simple google search...WW2 contrails and you will get literally hundreds of image results showing all sorts of contrails, from short lived ones to long lived persistent and spreading ones.

    1940chemtrailsomfg-full.jpg

    So unless you can prove that there is actually something in these contrails besides water vapour, CO2 and some CO that shouldn't be there then you have nothing.

    What planes in Ireland travel at speeds that look like jet fighters or passenger planes that travel all in same direction following eachother? Out of curiosity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    caseyann wrote: »
    What planes in Ireland travel at speeds that look like jet fighters or passenger planes that travel all in same direction following eachother? Out of curiosity.

    What are you talking about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    What are you talking about?

    The ones i described in previous post on the previous page.


    Saw three of them tis morning following each other across the sky from Blessington.Two came from direction of Wicklow and traveled towards Dublin. One came from other direction and when it caught up with the other two changed direction to follow them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    caseyann wrote: »
    The ones i described in previous post on the previous page.


    Saw three of them tis morning following each other across the sky from Blessington.Two came from direction of Wicklow and traveled towards Dublin. One came from other direction and when it caught up with the other two changed direction to follow them.

    Being stacked for a landing in Dublin perhaps? Or following pre determined flight paths. There are imaginary lanes in the sky that aircraft follow and they make turns at pre determined waypoints along their flight paths.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Being stacked for a landing in Dublin perhaps? Or following pre determined flight paths. There are imaginary lanes in the sky that aircraft follow and they make turns at pre determined waypoints along their flight paths.

    And it is usual for those planes to be flying in so close to eachother like they are in convoy coming in for landing and being more or less right behind eachother.


    Like this? nl-ufo-012610.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    caseyann wrote: »
    And it is usual for those planes to be flying in so close to eachother like they are in convoy coming in for landing and being more or less right behind eachother.


    Like this? nl-ufo-012610.jpg

    What is that photo supposed to be? What's your point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    caseyann wrote: »
    And it is usual for those planes to be flying in so close to eachother like they are in convoy coming in for landing and being more or less right behind eachother.


    Like this? nl-ufo-012610.jpg
    Are there two planes there? Can't really see them. But remember that the skyways are 3 dimnensional, so you can have 2 planes on the same route at the same time at the same speed, but one will be 1000 feet above the other one (or possibly more for safety reasons). From the ground it will look like they are right on top of each other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Are there two planes there? Can't really see them. But remember that the skyways are 3 dimnensional, so you can have 2 planes on the same route at the same time at the same speed, but one will be 1000 feet above the other one (or possibly more for safety reasons). From the ground it will look like they are right on top of each other.

    I grew up beside airport and never seen anything like this before.
    It just baffles
    I found this pic, unfortunately there is no video as it was removed because of copyright infringes.
    76a23800e206.jpg

    Anyway i dont know what it is but my eye sight is pretty damn good and can tell when i am seeing a plane or what ever it was change direction purposely to catch up and get in line behind to others and pretty damn fast to.And no they weren't flying in direction of Dublin airport.
    If baldonnel air show was coming up then i would understand what is going on.So much contrails as you call them is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    What might be interesting to do is compare the number of flights that happen over Dublin now with the number that there were 20 years ago. More flights means more contrails, no?

    Add to that the fact that when there are fewer planes, there's less traffic waiting to land at the airports (or no traffic at all) so even the planes that were landing were less likely to have to queue and fly around over the city.

    Also, this is a question for the aviation board, but I'd guess the route for planes circling over the airport will not point at the airport, except perhaps at a couple of points (like a roundabout) where it is safe for a plane to leave the circuit and head in for landing.

    I hope that answers your point re. heading towards the airport?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    What might be interesting to do is compare the number of flights that happen over Dublin now with the number that there were 20 years ago. More flights means more contrails, no?

    Add to that the fact that when there are fewer planes, there's less traffic waiting to land at the airports (or no traffic at all) so even the planes that were landing were less likely to have to queue and fly around over the city.

    Also, this is a question for the aviation board, but I'd guess the route for planes circling over the airport will not point at the airport, except perhaps at a couple of points (like a roundabout) where it is safe for a plane to leave the circuit and head in for landing.


    Where do you live? Dublin? Look up in morning and just tell me it looks normal,I know what you are saying and i thought of that it just looked plain weird.
    Like you would imagine fighter planes doing but not passenger planes.
    I will try get a video of it if i see again and post it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Just found this video footage,not sure if anyone else posted yet.

    Alleged chemtrail spraying.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28dQaaLQGQ


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    caseyann wrote: »
    Just found this video footage,not sure if anyone else posted yet.

    Alleged chemtrail spraying.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28dQaaLQGQ

    That's what's called "pulling vapour" by plane buffs.

    AFAIR it's the low pressure above the wing of the plane while making sharp climbs or turns causing the moisture to condensate and trail off, like what happens when the air is heated up in the jet engine.

    Here's a few pictures of planes doing it at airshows.
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    http://op-for.com/A10.jpg

    87273824.jpg

    1132371.jpg

    Here's a video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJygyeVEi0k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭chebonaparte


    ok disinformers just take a look over skies over gorey!!!!!

    how you gonna explain these 1s away!?

    right now!!!!


    now if you still deny that your all bunch blind idiots !!!

    oh and pls !n get your local councilors to explain them blatant all over skies across sun now!!!

    worst case chemtrail here yet!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    ok disinformers just take a look over skies over gorey!!!!!

    how you gonna explain these 1s away!?

    right now!!!!


    now if you still deny that your all bunch blind idiots !!!

    oh and pls !n get your local councilors to explain them blatant all over skies across sun now!!!

    worst case chemtrail here yet!

    Most people on the internet don't live in Gorey. Can you post a photo?

    In your expert opinion, why are they chemtrails, and not just contrails?


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