Fianna Fáil Leadership Challenge Underway

Bob_the_dog · 18-01-2011 09:37PM

th3 s1aught3r wrote: »

I hope they get anihilated

I think they will!

_Kaiser_ · 18-01-2011 09:38PM

Why are we listening to Daven-Power again while Martin answers questions... typically biased RTE coverage!

naughto · 18-01-2011 09:39PM

could he go indepenent??

are they not a lot worse of with martin gone??

efb · 18-01-2011 09:39PM

Hope Hanifan gets slaughtered

SeaFields · 18-01-2011 09:44PM

naughto wrote: »

could he go indepenent??

are they not a lot worse of with martin gone??

Resigned as minister....not from the party.

supersean1999 · 18-01-2011 09:44PM

efb wrote: »

Hope Hanifan gets slaughtered

she really is a spineless chicken, one of the only one not to announce her vote i think, well not before the meeting, lenny the liar will never get elected leader now , anyway all of us who wants ff smashed got a good result

KerranJast · 18-01-2011 09:44PM

naughto wrote: »

could he go indepenent??

are they not a lot worse of with martin gone??

He'll go back to Cork and ensure he gets reelected. There's a very good chance Hanafin will lose out in Dun Laoighre and Lenihan looks like a Judas after his double talk today.
If Martin is returned I expect him to be the next FF leader.

murchadh · 18-01-2011 09:59PM

Big Mouth wrote: »

Now I'm apolitical but one thing that does annoy me is this useless oaf talk. NO ONE who has been appointed Foreign Affairs, Finance and Prime Minister of a nation is a fool, very far from it, I would say you would be a lot more foolish to think that.

I don't want to get into policy talk but it does bug me, funny thing is it was you and the people of Ireland who voted for him:rolleyes:

As it's obvious that you know nothing about the situation, it's probably best to read up a little on the subject before you comment.

Rolleyes...

Balmed Out · 18-01-2011 10:22PM

Think even without the events of last weak theres no doubt of michael martin not getting reelected. In cork south central hes always been very popular.

NewHillel · 18-01-2011 10:26PM

supersean1999 wrote: »

i agree he is the only one who came out of this good, hanafin and lenny are a disgrace

Brian L played a blinder, as always. He hadn't a hope of being elected right now. After the general election it'll be an entirely different story. Don't rule him out as a future Taoiseach, either.

(Oh, and its Mr Linehan, to you. Only friends are allowed call him Lenny. :P)

Mr.Micro · 18-01-2011 10:26PM

Any news on the vote numbers or are they to be kept secret?

Mr.Micro · 18-01-2011 10:28PM

NewHillel wrote: »

Brian L played a blinder, as always. He hadn't a hope of being elected right now. After the general election it'll be an entirely different story. Don't rule him out as a future Taoiseach, either.

(Oh, and its Mr Linehan, to you. Only friends are allowed call him Lenny. :P)

He would fit right in then as FF leader spineless, gutless and deceitful and did I mention delusional.

supersean1999 · 18-01-2011 10:32PM

NewHillel wrote: »

Brian L played a blinder, as always. He hadn't a hope of being elected right now. After the general election it'll be an entirely different story. Don't rule him out as a future Taoiseach, either.

(Oh, and its Mr Linehan, to you. Only friends are allowed call him Lenny. :P)

in your view he played a blinder , but its not the popular view on these forums and the tv, as for him being taoiseach hahahaha thats all i say,,,,, ps its lenny the liar now:)

gandalf · 18-01-2011 10:36PM

Well despite looking like he had ruined his chances Michael Martin has come out of this insipid affair the most intact. Cowen may have won the vote but it doesn't change the fact he is a lame duck Taoiseach almost universally hated by the public. The two other main players in the post Cowen leadership race have been shown up as spineless and in Brian Lenihans case he has stabbed a lot of backbenchers in the back and that will not be forgotten. His chances of being leader are now gone.

Based on leaders questions earlier today I fear that we will not have our election until April but when it comes it will be bloody for a lot of established members of the Developers party. That is of course if there isn't another story waiting to be released by the media (remember the Daily Mail had a story stopped by an injunction apparently).

Flimbos · 18-01-2011 11:21PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Any news on the vote numbers or are they to be kept secret?

Secret ballot so we won't know for sure, but according to someone on Politics.ie (a source supposedly), it's 42 - 29.

Fitzerb · 18-01-2011 11:22PM

Flimbos wrote: »

Secret ballot so we won't know for sure, but according to someone on Politics.ie (a source supposedly), it's 42 - 29.

There are only two people who know. The tellers who counted the vote.

Sierra Oscar · 18-01-2011 11:26PM

Fitzerb wrote: »

There are only two people who know. The tellers who counted the vote.

Exactly.

You are going to hear a whole lot of know it all's try and tell you what way the vote exactly fell . . . but at the end of the day only two people know and they are silent on the issue.

Alongside that, the ballot papers were destroyed immediately after the count.

Flimbos · 18-01-2011 11:32PM

True enough. Most likely it's hearsay.

Fitzerb · 18-01-2011 11:33PM

Flimbos wrote: »

True enough. Most likely it's hearsay.

Or the daily "rag" mail

Byron85 · 19-01-2011 09:40AM

Flimbos wrote: »

True enough. Most likely it's hearsay.

Interestingly enough...

maryorourketd Mary O'Rourke
So now the fuss is over - vote was 2-1 in favour of Brian Cowen... secret of course!!

That woman is an unadulterated snake. I'm now of the belief that the whole thing was a set up by Lenihan and her to get Martin out of the way.

gandalf · 19-01-2011 09:46AM

Byron85 wrote: »

That woman is an unadulterated snake. I'm now of the belief that the whole thing was a set up by Lenihan and her to get Martin out of the way.

Judging from pundits and peoples reactions in general if this was her plan it has blown up in her face and Brian Lenihan is the most tainted from this whole episode. If he is going to mount a leadership challenge he better hope that all those backbenchers he mislead don't get re-elected.

Byron85 · 19-01-2011 10:54AM

Apparently it's Labour's fault for the state the country is in.

Brian Cowen accuses Eamon Gilmore of bringing the country down with negative rhetoric

http://twitter.com/#!/thejournal_ie/status/27679161912926208

gandalf · 19-01-2011 10:59AM

Byron85 wrote: »

Apparently it's Labour's fault for the state the country is in.

http://twitter.com/#!/thejournal_ie/status/27679161912926208

Jesus some of the tripe he comes out with sounds like it was written by the creators of Father Ted!

Fianna Fail just do not do responsibility. Apparently it is everyone elses fault except theirs !!!

DoesNotCompute · 19-01-2011 11:00AM

Byron85 wrote: »

Apparently it's Labour's fault for the state the country is in.

http://twitter.com/#!/thejournal_ie/status/27679161912926208

hilarious, is this gobsh*te delusional? Is he even living in the same reality as the rest of us??

Flimbos · 19-01-2011 11:40AM

Brian Cowen accuses Eamon Gilmore of bringing the country down with negative rhetoric

Reminds me of his predecessor... "...cribbin' and moaning..."

jmayo · 19-01-2011 11:41AM

gandalf wrote: »

Jesus some of the tripe he comes out with sounds like it was written by the creators of Father Ted!

Fianna Fail just do not do responsibility. Apparently it is everyone elses fault except theirs !!!

Bingo.

supersean1999 wrote: »

worst hair in europe

Leave him alone, that is all his own hair, he bought and paid for it.
Maybe it was money out of his senate expenses or the money he got from fleecing people going through Dublin airport ?

efb wrote: »

Hope Hanifan gets slaughtered

She might not if all the religious nutjobs continue to vote for her.

NewHillel wrote: »

Brian L played a blinder, as always. He hadn't a hope of being elected right now. After the general election it'll be an entirely different story. Don't rule him out as a future Taoiseach, either.

(Oh, and its Mr Linehan, to you. Only friends are allowed call him Lenny. :P)

Well he has all the ff credentials for the leadership job.
I find it discouraging and dishearting that anyone wants the man that tied us to the world biggest lossmaker of 2009 and made us responsible for all their debts as our future taoiseach. :mad:

Byron85 wrote: »

Apparently it's Labour's fault for the state the country is in.

http://twitter.com/#!/thejournal_ie/status/27679161912926208

Why do I think all ffers went to some conference where some eejit managed to convince them about the power of positive thinking ?
I suppose they might have gone to the property developers/investors guru Robert Kiyosaki and his Rich Dad Poor Dad hogwash. :rolleyes:

Jaysoose · 19-01-2011 01:10PM

amacachi wrote: »

Really? Only source I can find says that Cowen got more votes than Bertie in the last election.

When's the result likely to come out? Delighted if Cowen stays.

Who was Taoiseach and leader of the part going into the 2007 election? are we honestly trying to say that people voted for the charismatic minister for finance in the hope he took over.

Jeboa Safari · 19-01-2011 02:01PM

Jaysoose wrote: »

Who was Taoiseach and leader of the part going into the 2007 election? are we honestly trying to say that people voted for the charismatic minister for finance in the hope he took over.

I'd say a lot did actually, it was on the cards too at the time, but thats not the point and its not how the system works. All the cabinet positions aren't held by FF either, does that mean its not democratic?

hotmail.com · 20-01-2011 02:59PM

Newstalk reporting that FF backbenchers want Cowen out by tonight

FF backbenchers calling on remaining Ministers to meet & take Bruan Cowen out tonight. Still a bit left in this day - Chris #ge11

outandabout · 20-01-2011 03:02PM

Rumours also that the Greens could pull the plug?

Whatever happened to the slick party machine that Fianna Fail used boast about.

The leadership issue and resignations have been handled shambolically.

Fianna Fáil Leadership Challenge Underway

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