New Passat (B7)

moonshadow · 17-01-2011 11:53PM

Tea 1000 wrote: »

I'm not great at mental arithmatic, but €1,500 to fix the injector is significantly less than €23,000 to change the car.

Neither am i,BUT there are 3 other injectors every one is 1500 (part only) If one goes its only starting the ****e:mad:
160k on the clock does not help things;)
trade value of 7k starts to make the alarm bells ring:eek:
Do the sums now,buy someone elses trouble for 15k and keep paying or bite the bullet........sometimes them bullets are not too sour;)

mickdw · 18-01-2011 12:02AM

How the hell can they charge 1500 for an injector?

Surely the independant trade have a cheaper fix than that? Can use ones be fitted?

moonshadow · 18-01-2011 12:07AM

mickdw wrote: »

How the hell can they charge 1500 for an injector?

Surely the independant trade have a cheaper fix than that? Can use ones be fitted?

That is independant trade,you cant buy an injector Bosch /Siemens without giving them the old one,they cant be "serviced" its a fdcker for sure,something to do with the 2l engine hence my reason for the more serviceable 1.6 option.

GTE · 18-01-2011 12:23AM

Maybe I am missing something but the 2.0 PD TDI injectors dont seem too bad price wise, compared to 1500.

http://shop.ebay.ie/i.html?_nkw=2.0+pd+injector&_sacat=0&_dmpt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&_odkw=1.9+pd+injector&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
http://shop.ebay.ie/i.html?_nkw=2.0+tdi+injector&_sacat=0&_odkw=2.0+pd+injecter&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

bazz26 · 18-01-2011 12:33AM

moonshadow wrote: »

Neither am i,BUT there are 3 other injectors every one is 1500 (part only) If one goes its only starting the ****e:mad:
160k on the clock does not help things;)
trade value of 7k starts to make the alarm bells ring:eek:
Do the sums now,buy someone elses trouble for 15k and keep paying or bite the bullet........sometimes them bullets are not too sour;)

How can you even contemplate paying €23k on another Passat after getting burnt on your current one? Buy something else.

mickdw · 18-01-2011 12:45AM

Just looking on vw parts system, im not sure of which part exactly suits yours but for most of the injectors for diesel 06 passat, there are repair kits, seal kits & cleaning solution kits listed. These are genuine items which woud be available through the dealers so there must be a certain amount of serviceability although I do know that injectors are specialist precision items.

Tea 1000 · 18-01-2011 01:16AM

moonshadow wrote: »

Neither am i,BUT there are 3 other injectors every one is 1500 (part only) If one goes its only starting the ****e:mad:
160k on the clock does not help things;)
trade value of 7k starts to make the alarm bells ring:eek:
Do the sums now,buy someone elses trouble for 15k and keep paying or bite the bullet........sometimes them bullets are not too sour;)

1500 seems very high, I'd try a few garages to see if you can find used ones.
7k trade in value is fairly crap. Try VW dealer in Longford, also Portumna. Both of those seem to be giving good deals recently.

Moanin · 18-01-2011 11:06AM

moonshadow wrote: »

Neither am i,BUT there are 3 other injectors every one is 1500 (part only) If one goes its only starting the ****e:mad:
160k on the clock does not help things;)
trade value of 7k starts to make the alarm bells ring:eek:
Do the sums now,buy someone elses trouble for 15k and keep paying or bite the bullet........sometimes them bullets are not too sour;)

Well I gone one done in my 2.0TDI 06 passat in the main dealers in Navan €850 all in which included new injector,wiring loom and labour.

Leonard Hofstadter · 18-01-2011 11:18AM

bazz26 wrote: »

How can you even contemplate paying €23k on another Passat after getting burnt on your current one? Buy something else.

This just shows how much indoctrination there is of certain brands in Ireland.

Between VW and Toyota, there are few buyers/owners that are so blind. It's like devotion to Fianna Fáil or something - absolute madness.

Is it any wonder VW produces such rubbish cars when people have expensive problems with them yet go and buy another one? This lack of effort to make cars reliable is also evident with modern BMWs and Mercs for nearly 15 years (thankfully Mercs are now properly made once again), it never fails to amaze me the power of a badge.

-Corkie- · 18-01-2011 07:50PM

captainspeed wrote: »

This just shows how much indoctrination there is of certain brands in Ireland.

Between VW and Toyota, there are few buyers/owners that are so blind. It's like devotion to Fianna Fáil or something - absolute madness.

Is it any wonder VW produces such rubbish cars when people have expensive problems with them yet go and buy another one? This lack of effort to make cars reliable is also evident with modern BMWs and Mercs for nearly 15 years (thankfully Mercs are now properly made once again), it never fails to amaze me the power of a badge.

You are so right and I must admit I was sucked into that hole aswell. Ill not be buying one again I can guarntee you.

d2ww · 18-01-2011 09:53PM

captainspeed wrote: »

This just shows how much indoctrination there is of certain brands in Ireland.

Between VW and Toyota, there are few buyers/owners that are so blind. It's like devotion to Fianna Fáil or something - absolute madness.

Is it any wonder VW produces such rubbish cars when people have expensive problems with them yet go and buy another one? This lack of effort to make cars reliable is also evident with modern BMWs and Mercs for nearly 15 years (thankfully Mercs are now properly made once again), it never fails to amaze me the power of a badge.

CS, which alternatives would you suggest?

Leonard Hofstadter · 18-01-2011 10:53PM

d2ww wrote: »

CS, which alternatives would you suggest?

The problem with this question is that there is such a list of better alternatives:)!

Ironically I like the Skoda Superb a lot because it is based on a Passat that is better in every way bar looks, and having had the benefit of seeing the "new" Passat today (which of course is exactly the same car as the B6 apart from the looks and a few interior changes) it's uglier than its predcessor so it's not really a better looking car than its Skoda counterpart anymore. It's also meant to be quite a bit more reliable than the VW, now I don't know why or how, but it seems that the Czechs take more pride in their work than their bosses in Germany.

Mondeo, Insignia, Superb are IMO the best cars in the class. The C5 and even the Accord now looks like a decent proposition - I believe that Honda are about to drop the prices across the range which will make the Accord competitive once again. Also worth considering are the Mazda 6 (if you can live with the interior)

The new Peugeot 508 is shaping up to be a decent car too - Autocar were very impressed with it today, especially with how it drives(they're even sticking with hydraulic power steering to improve steering feel - a commendable decision) - one is left with the impression that Peugeot are going back to their 80s heyday when they made cars that were the "drive of your life". Another car that could be very good is the Hyundai i40 - apparently the i30 is a good proposition and they are meant to be on a roll these days.

I'd still have the Passat over the Seat Exeo, the Toyota Avensis (that's some heap of brown stuff - I really dislike the current model Avensis - that really is a car for people who lack the ability to think for themselves), the Hyundai Sonata(if that's still sold) or the outgoing Peugeot 407, which is not a particularly good car.

My problem with the Passat is that while it's not a bad car, it's just that it is not well made and VW makes a car that is better equipped, better made, feels far classier inside, has more space and yet costs less. I also hate the fact that VW are passing this car off as a new one when it is really a facelift.

New Passat (B7)

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