Michael Martin to hold a press conference within the hour

Carlow52 · 16-01-2011 08:54PM

Given Cowens intentions to cling to power, should we adopt the change model from Tunis
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12200851 and put Ireland in for Arabs/Tunis corruption/ happiness

nkay1985 · 16-01-2011 08:54PM

Amazed he's going for it. Cowen surely thinks he has the numbers.

Killer Pigeon · 16-01-2011 08:56PM

Apparently Martin is resigning and voting against Cowen.
-politics.ie

EDIT: I think it is pretty much confirmed that he is resigning now.

RoundyMooney · 16-01-2011 08:56PM

He thought he had the numbers before somebody stood up.

What would be even better now would be if Lenny or Hanafin had a go, split the bastards even further

nkay1985 · 16-01-2011 09:05PM

RoundyMooney wrote: »

He thought he had the numbers before somebody stood up.

What would be even better now would be if Lenny or Hanafin had a go, split the bastards even further

Yeah could be it but he said Cowen was aware that he was going public this evening.

chucken1 · 16-01-2011 09:06PM

I wonder will we get another brave skin stepping up tonight?

IvySlayer · 16-01-2011 09:08PM

Why couldn't he have done this a year or 2 ago?

Publicity stunt to get votes, that's all it is.

Killer Pigeon · 16-01-2011 09:10PM

http://www.politics.ie/fianna-fail/148370-live-micheal-martin-press-conference-10.html
http://www.justin.tv/paraicgallagher#/w/767330656

Confirmed: Micheál Martin has offered his resignation to the Taoiseach. He is voting with accordance to his views in the Motion of Confidence in the Taoiseach.

Edit: However Cowen refuses Martin's resignation

16-01-2011 09:11PM

I wish Fianna Fail would resign as a party tbh.

proon4 · 16-01-2011 09:11PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

Why couldn't he have done this a year or 2 ago?

Publicity stunt to get votes, that's all it is.

EXACTLY.... A broken down TD scavanging for votes. But he has his teachers job waiting for him when he loses his seat... Jesus these guys have it all sewn up

RonMexico · 16-01-2011 09:11PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpc5_3B5xdk

orourkeda · 16-01-2011 09:11PM

If there is a god in heaven the decimation of the FF party will be on Michael Martins watch

Leslie91 · 16-01-2011 09:12PM

What a joke and a disgrace. The country is on the floor and these morons are fighting over a bag of crumbs. Fianna Fail is dead. Get the F off the stage and let's have an election right now. I am sick to death of you pontificating about 'putting the interests of the country first', the only interests you bastards have is yourselves. GTFO now!!.

orourkeda · 16-01-2011 09:13PM

RoundyMooney wrote: »

He thought he had the numbers before somebody stood up.

What would be even better now would be if Lenny or Hanafin had a go, split the bastards even further

May not be beyond the bounds of possibility

Flimbos · 16-01-2011 09:19PM

It's being repeated on Sky News now

Dangerous Man · 16-01-2011 09:19PM

orourkeda wrote: »

May not be beyond the bounds of possibility

It would be nice but as long as there are rats who will vote for other rats we're going to be overrun with rats. Someone mentioned in one of the other Biffo threads that giant man-shaped rat Brian Cowen is very popular in Offaly amongst his own rat kind. I hate to say it but I really don't see any hope.

fontanalis · 16-01-2011 09:20PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWtCittJyr0

stateofflux · 16-01-2011 09:25PM

orourkeda wrote: »

If there is a god in heaven the decimation of the FF party will be on Michael Martins watch

agreed...but given the gullibility of a lot of people...the rat will abandon ship and will reappear when the dust has settled....all will be forgiven....the prick

Killer Pigeon · 16-01-2011 09:25PM

Micheál Martin's full statement:

http://www.politics.ie/3391442-post225.html

Throughout my time as a government minister I have always given the Taoiseach my views in an honest and open way. This has been no different over the last week during which we have talked candidly and in private on a number of occasions.

I believe that Fianna Fáil must recognise the reality of the current climate of public opinion. My concern is that we be able to put forward a positive agenda, campaign with energy and engage the public.

I have reluctantly concluded that, in these circumstances, Fianna Fáil should change its leader before the election and I have informed the Taoiseach of this view. Having talked to most members of the Parliamentary Party and many members of the party across the country I believe that this is a widely held view.

I want to be clear that there is no question about who should continue to head the government. The government has a short agenda to complete before the General Election. This involves delivering a number of specific reform commitments and providing for the final implementation of this year’s budget. This work is essential to ensure that there can be more constructive debate during the election and that there is time for the orderly process of government formation.

I welcome the decision of the Taoiseach to table a vote of confidence in himself at next Tuesday’s Parliamentary Party meeting. I will, in accordance with my views, be voting against the motion of confidence.

In these circumstances, I have offered my resignation to the Taoiseach. He has indicated that he believes such a course of action is not necessary.

proon4 · 16-01-2011 09:26PM

Im watching Sky News now.... Its about Tunisia...Im looking at real people showing their power... I despair of myself and the people of Ireland... The comfort of the EC took our balls away years ago and its only now we realise they are gone.. WTF were we scratching for all those years Viva La Tunisia

fontanalis · 16-01-2011 09:30PM

What's the big deal? No one in FF will undo the guarantee.

FreudianSlippers · 16-01-2011 09:34PM

proon4 wrote: »

Im watching Sky News now.... Its about Tunisia...Im looking at real people showing their power... I despair of myself and the people of Ireland... The comfort of the EC took our balls away years ago and its only now we realise they are gone.. WTF were we scratching for all those years Viva La Tunisia

Apples and oranges.

fontanalis · 16-01-2011 09:35PM

OisinT wrote: »

Apples and oranges.

No, rioting is cool you see and it achieves so much.

proon4 · 16-01-2011 09:40PM

fontanalis wrote: »

No, rioting is cool you see and it achieves so much.

Got rid of a despot Leader in Tunisia and most of his thieving family and friends...Ok so its not the best way , but at times you can only push a people so far..... The song Coward of the county comes to mind.... Our national anthem should be.... Cowards of the Country

fontanalis · 16-01-2011 09:45PM

FF were voted in democratically. What good will running around destroying other peoples property do?

JohnathanM · 16-01-2011 09:48PM

fontanalis wrote: »

No, rioting is cool you see and it achieves so much.

"When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
T Jefferson

Plus, with all the looting going on you're sure to bag a nice new telly, and that PS3 you've been after.

fontanalis · 16-01-2011 09:49PM

JohnathanM wrote: »

"When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
T Jefferson

Plus, with all the looting going on you're sure to bag a nice new telly, and that PS3 you've been after.

At the next election there will be an opportunity to let them fear the people. Like there always has been.

Leslie91 · 16-01-2011 09:54PM

<Ollie> wrote: »

Cowards the lot of them!

Martin - if you had any balls you would have done this six or twelve months ago, not 10 weeks before a bloody general election.

First Bertie jumped ship when/before the inevitable was about to happen. Then we get half the current cabinet resigning after screwing up this country for the years to come - some of the highest paid politicians in the world, but they had to go to Brussels seeking a bailout. They'll leave with their huge pensions though. Absolute cowards!!

Ireland, a highly skilled english speaking workforce, part of the EU, with a population of only 4 million people - where some of the biggest US multinationals came - but we some how managed to fúck it all up. Billions in debt and unemployment at 13%. Incredible really.

That's Fianna Fail for you. Fail by name fail by nature.

JohnathanM · 16-01-2011 09:59PM

fontanalis wrote: »

At the next election there will be an opportunity to let them fear the people. Like there always has been.

That's a lot of faith to be placing in the the "democratic" process. The election is a long time coming. As I recall one reason for this is that there are two by-elections prevented to this point with a third having required court action to bring about. The previous "leader" should be in gaol or at least fighting to stay out of it, and the current - who operates without popular mandate - seems increasingly to be just as dirty where he previously appeared simply stupid. What exactly do they fear? Early retirement and multiple pensions?

joey54 · 16-01-2011 10:01PM

Lets not forget the Grrens response to all of this.

Green Party reaction to Cowen's statement:

Party anticipates early and definitive resolution

Green Party TDs and senators this evening discussed Brian Cowen's response to the internal Fianna Fail party consultations.

The Green Party has stood back to allow Fianna Fail to order its own affairs. We look forward to an early and definitive resolution.

Please Greens, just pull the plug!!!

Michael Martin to hold a press conference within the hour

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