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Ireland owes the world nearly 2 Trillion Dollars

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    So, basically we owe the world about 444444 euro each? (2 trillion divided by 4.5 million)

    Irish people think they're entitled to a standard of living which is higher than other countries, just because we're Irish.

    http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056104729

    I never took out that loan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    kippy wrote: »
    Thats the debt.
    Barter is where its at.
    Currency aint worth a **** with all the vulture speculators out there.

    FAIL post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,019 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    FAIL post

    In AH,
    You're having a laugh. Literally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    OK, what is Irelands real debt then?

    About -$867bn (82bn government debt + I've added the bank debt since the gov has chosen to take most of that on too) according to this thread from mid 2010. It's worth looking at the last post to put it all in perspective without the sensationalism


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    sensationalism

    With the mess we are in? This is reality....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    yes the "november criminals" have sold us to the IMF, an irish hitler rises from the ashes...

    That would be me :P

    Except I won't grow a crazy mustache.

    I will advocate the following when the time comes (muhahahah):

    • All of Ireland's financial problems were caused by capitalism, foreigners, evil jew-bankers, FF politicians and the EU.
    • Ireland must leave the EU.
    • Ignore the bond holders, they can f*ck off. We will not pay back the 2 trillion.
    • Socialism with a strong national pride is the only was forward.
    • All people on the island who cannot trace at least two of their grandparents' ancestry back to the year 1800 must either be deported to Madagascar (if they don't posses Irish citizenry at present) or will have their citizenship downgraded and will not be considered pure-Irish.
    • Facilities must be put in place so that pure-Irish families can breed a greater number of children to serve the fatherland (I'm wondering if Ireland should be called 'the fatherland', 'the motherland', or just 'Éire' or 'Ireland').
    • The Irish language must be encouraged in order for all Irish people to speak the language as their first language instead of English by 2050.
    • All religions must be discouraged or even outlawed, especially the Abrahamic desert monkey religions. Instead, an emphasis will be put on the Neo-Druidism (derived from the ancient druidic religion of Ireland and other Celtic nations). It must be conveyed however that the emphasis on Neo-Druidism is just to promote national pride and should not be taken so seriously as if it were true fact.
    • Wagner!!
    • Democracy does not work but unfortunately we must use it to get into power. Dictatorship is the only way petty political ravelings, which slow down the process of decision making, can be avoided so that the National Interest can be spearheaded faster and with greater effect.
    • The size and strength of the Irish Army must increase 20 fold. 50 per cent of GNP must be spent on the armament and defense of the state.
    • Northern Ireland must be reclaimed at all cost. After the army is large enough we must reclaim the North with a lightning invasion. The North will fall to the Irish Republic in under 6 days. Massive defense of the eastern Irish coast must ensue to prevent the advance of a likely British/ NATO invasion. An Irish Sea and Atlantic Wall will be build.
    • Meanwhile the North must be cleansed of all loyalists/ unionists. They will be deported to Scotland/ Madagascar.
    • This New Order of the Island of Ireland will be called - "The Irish Third Republic" or just "The Third Republic".
    • Eugenics and over-the-top euthanasia must be incorporated into people's fundamental thinking in order to perfect the Master Race.
    • Huge investment in education, industry and health care.

    (note: most of the above is only for the lulz and not to be taken seriously)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭shuvly


    We are in the top 5 of the worlds most indebted countries... we owe $1,841,000,000,000... :(

    and your point is? think we all know we are ****ed..(prob been said loads of times, but tl dr, meh, any other "couldn't give a **** have heard it all before" thingys...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Sea Sharp wrote: »
    They're feckin eejits for lending it to us in the first place.

    Agreed

    Imagine a bank loan interview going like this ...

    'I earn a euro a day ...'

    "ok we can lend you a million - its ok the rate is 5% fixed for the next ten years"

    'do you think I can pay this?'

    "its ok the economy is growing and we have the government in our pockets - they can't let this go wrong"

    'ok then if you are sure ...'

    "Not a bother lets get yoiu signed up ...."


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    We are in the top 5 of the worlds most indebted countries... we owe $1,841,000,000,000... :(
    Aaa hell, I'll throw in a fiver into the bucket!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Biggins wrote: »
    Aaa hell, I'll throw in a fiver into the bucket!

    I heard Jimmy Devins recently ask us do the same ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 575 ✭✭✭RockinRolla


    yes the "november criminals" have sold us to the IMF, an irish hitler rises from the ashes...

    Joe Higgins?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭Ban Ki Moon


    The global financial system is debt based, if there was no debt money would have no value.Dont worry about it op


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    The global financial system is debt based, if there was no debt money would have no value.Dont worry about it op

    Ummm, I'm not quite sure that's the case Ban.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    well i reckon if we got big sticks and pushed the island of Ireland away from it's present spot, (to somewhere warm - near the canaries) they'd never find us.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Ireland's general government debt as of June 2010 is 80,019 million Euro. Link. Note that the headline figure in this link includes Monetary Financial Institutions, other sectors, and direct investment, for which the Irish tax payer isn't liable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    If we were to get the worlds 1000 wealthiest people and take all their cash and redistribute it how much money would be put back into the worlds economies? I mean, there's probably some sheik out there who has as much money as ireland needs so why not just kill the fukker, take his cash and settle our debts?

    Dont gimme any bull about it being unethical or anything, he probably got his cash from overcharging us for something in the first place or worse, he could be a "Senior Bondholder" who's just using a fukked financial system and wanker politicians to bleed us dry.

    I'd gladly sacrifice 1000 people to make life better for millions of others. TBH, if we could take out the 10,000 wealthiest people we'd probably go a long way towards eradicating poverty and debt worldwide. Anyone got the stats for how much money the worlds 10,000 wealthiest people actually have? I'm not for anarchy or socialism its just that there's probably a good solution to a big problem staring at us and all we need is a bit of collateral damage. Killing might be a bit extreme i suppose, maybe just rob them and let them start over with no money although killing them might be easier and quicker.

    Anyway in the meantime here's these 2 gems again



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    If we were to get the worlds 1000 wealthiest people and take all their cash and redistribute it how much money would be put back into the worlds economies? I mean, there's probably some sheik out there who has as much money as ireland needs so why not just kill the fukker, take his cash and settle our debts?

    Dont gimme any bull about it being unethical or anything, he probably got his cash from overcharging us for something in the first place or worse, he could be a "Senior Bondholder" who's just using a fukked financial system and wanker politicians to bleed us dry.

    I'd gladly sacrifice 1000 people to make life better for millions of others. TBH, if we could take out the 10,000 wealthiest people we'd probably go a long way towards eradicating poverty and debt worldwide. Anyone got the stats for how much money the worlds 10,000 wealthiest people actually have? I'm not for anarchy or socialism its just that there's probably a good solution to a big problem staring at us and all we need is a bit of collateral damage. Killing might be a bit extreme i suppose, maybe just rob them and let them start over with no money although killing them might be easier and quicker.

    Anyway in the meantime here's these 2 gems again

    This is called (or related to) Rawls' Theory of Justice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭Ban Ki Moon


    Einhard wrote: »
    Ummm, I'm not quite sure that's the case Ban.

    yes it is, its just paper. Every country on the planet is in debt! The debt is paid for by workers who actually are the only ones who create wealth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    If we were to get the worlds 1000 wealthiest people and take all their cash and redistribute it how much money would be put back into the worlds economies?


    What about just having the balls to say enough is enough - we can't pay we aren't paying - and no bull**** about us being a small country Iceland did it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭Ban Ki Moon


    sligopark wrote: »
    What about just having the balls to say enough is enough - we can't pay we aren't paying - and no bull**** about us being a small country Iceland did it.

    Iceland will not go scott free, it has massive debts like it or not and they will pay!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    yes it is

    No it's not! head of the UN or not Ban, I don't think you know what you're talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    We are in the top 5 of the worlds most indebted countries... we owe $1,841,000,000,000... :(

    Thats 368,200,000,000 pints.

    That's a sh*tload


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    well i reckon if we got big sticks and pushed the island of Ireland away from it's present spot, (to somewhere warm - near the canaries) they'd never find us.


    I reckon if we had some balls we could self create these sticks and like Iceland tell alll these f_ckers to piss off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    WRT the situation where a significant proportion of our debt being that of 'companies' who are situated in the IFSC, don't rule out us taking that on too :eek:

    All it takes is for our next Taoiseach going for a round of golf with one of their execs...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭Ban Ki Moon


    Einhard wrote: »
    No it's not! head of the UN or not Ban, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

    You just keep saying no, maybe you might divulge more info?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭Mr Trade In


    Odd question to ask but what happens if the Euro does collapse?

    My Theory, We all get to spend the rest of our lives building the great pyramid in Washington when the Masons finally show themselves and clean up this mess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭Ban Ki Moon


    They have a backup currency that will be worth as much as the previous one..paper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    if we really owed nearly $2 trillion can you imagine the interest payments we as a country would be paying on servicing that debt, the us were paying $250 billion A YEAR to service $10 trillion national debt in 2008


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭Ban Ki Moon


    We are in the top 5 of the worlds most indebted countries... we owe $1,841,000,000,000... :(

    Bullssssht, we dont owe 2TN!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 673 ✭✭✭Tubsandtiles


    But who would pay for those big sticks?, we could use that big metal thing in Dublin instead.


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