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Micheala Hartes murder, suspects caught

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭GuessWho2009


    r.i.p micheala


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    If the President and/or Brady were friends of the family, I'd have no problem whatsoever. However, I haven't seen anything to suggest that. Fair enough, Mickey Harte is a high-profile person but his daughter isn't.

    I mean, did the two of them go to the funeral of Michael Martin's daughter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    If the President and/or Brady were friends of the family, I'd have no problem whatsoever. However, I haven't seen anything to suggest that. Fair enough, Mickey Harte is a high-profile person but his daughter isn't.

    I mean, did the two of them go to the funeral of Michael Martin's daughter?

    err yes she was, in GAA circles she definitely was and was very recognisable ever since tyrone won their first all ireland in 2003.

    so what? only friends of a family can attend a funeral now?

    your logic, if you can call it that, is so incredibly retarded it doesn't warrant response. i am ashamed of myself for doing so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    That's not what I'm getting at.

    To me, it seems like the politician and the CC are trying to get behind a tragedy for their own publicity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    Oh ffs...just leave it out will you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Alessandra


    That's not what I'm getting at.

    To me, it seems like the politician and the CC are trying to get behind a tragedy for their own publicity.


    That's a rather cynical opinion. Her father is a sporting legend and as such is respected and revered throughout the country. People obviously want to pay their respect to Mickey Harte and in some small way show they care and well done to them .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    I mean, did the two of them go to the funeral of Michael Martin's daughter?

    YES

    Happy now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Because a nation is in mourning, thats why..

    I don't want to sound like a big insensitive jerk here, but no, the nation isn't in mourning. It's sad, but why should we mourn for this poor girl any more than we mourn for the kids murdered by their dad over Christmas, or the mother of 3 kids killed in Limerick last week? I feel sad for the family, but I don't know any of them, and thus I'm not in mourning. And very few of us are. Sometimes when celebrities or well known people die, people feel as if they knew them for whatever reason, and thus it touches a some nerve, but to be honest, grieving over someone one doesn't know, or who doesn't mean anything in a personal way, is something I never really got.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    Ordinarily I'd agree with you that it's unnecessary for the president to attend but in this case she would almost certainly know Mickey Harte personally, at least to some degree. She would have met him a number of times at GAA functions, big games in Croke Park etc. Added to that it's an Irish citizen murdered outside the state and there has been diplomatic involvement, so to be fair I don't think it has that much to do with the girl being 'famous' or anything like that.

    And M.McAleese is from the north.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    I mean, did the two of them go to the funeral of Michael Martin's daughter?

    You can be quite certain that Mary McAleese was at that funeral, how would you even need to ask?

    And M.McAleese is from the north.

    There is that aswell, although as I said she would have met Mickey Harte himself on a number of occasions. So I think it's a bit disingenuous to question her motives for attending this funeral, and it's not often I defend her.

    And Maikikomi, as much as this is a tragic case, to suggest that 'a nation is in mourning' might be going a wee bit overboard don't you think?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Einhard wrote: »
    I don't want to sound like a big insensitive jerk here, but no, the nation isn't in mourning. It's sad, but why should we mourn for this poor girl any more than we mourn for the kids murdered by their dad over Christmas, or the mother of 3 kids killed in Limerick last week? I feel sad for the family, but I don't know any of them, and thus I'm not in mourning. And very few of us are. Sometimes when celebrities or well known people die, people feel as if they knew them for whatever reason, and thus it touches a some nerve, but to be honest, grieving over someone one doesn't know, or who doesn't mean anything in a personal way, is something I never really got.

    Good for you, I get it. And many more like me, who can identify with the family be it as a father, brother, lover or husband/wife.

    You think I don't mourn, or feel some sense of loss at the less high profile murder's over the Christmas?.. You don't read me well so.. I've posted this more than once in recent times..

    'For whom the bell tolls'

    No man is an island,
    Entire of itself.
    Each is a piece of the continent,
    A part of the main.
    If a clod be washed away by the sea,
    Europe is the less.
    As well as if a promontory were.
    As well as if a manor of thine own
    Or of thine friend's were.
    Each man's death diminishes me,
    For I am involved in mankind.
    Therefore, send not to know
    For whom the bell tolls,
    It tolls for thee.

    The murder of Micheala Harte has touched the heart of the country, be a hard arse about it all you want but you know where I'm coming from even if you personally "don't get it".

    So yea, I'm happy that I'm represented at the funeral by our president.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Good for you, I get it. And many more like me, who can identify with the family be it as a father, brother, lover or husband/wife.

    You think I don't mourn, or feel some sense of loss at the less high profile murder's over the Christmas?.. You don't read me well so.. I've posted this more than once in recent times..

    'For whom the bell tolls'

    No man is an island,
    Entire of itself.
    Each is a piece of the continent,
    A part of the main.
    If a clod be washed away by the sea,
    Europe is the less.
    As well as if a promontory were.
    As well as if a manor of thine own
    Or of thine friend's were.
    Each man's death diminishes me,
    For I am involved in mankind.
    Therefore, send not to know
    For whom the bell tolls,
    It tolls for thee.

    The murder of Micheala Harte has touched the heart of the country, be a hard arse about it all you want but you know where I'm coming from even if you personally "don't get it".

    So yea, I'm happy that I'm represented at the funeral by our president.

    well said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Einhard


    You think I don't mourn, or feel some sense of loss at the less high profile murder's over the Christmas?.. You don't read me well so.. I've posted this more than once in recent times..

    I didn't mention you specifically. I was pointing out that people in general tend to overreact when celebrities, or those that are well known, pass away. Diana being a case in point.
    The murder of Micheala Harte has touched the heart of the country, be a hard arse about it all you want but you know where I'm coming from even if you personally "don't get it".

    This is why I hate posting on these threads. If you don't step neatly in line with the prevailing mood, even if you are being respectful in not doing so, you're open to self righteous and personalised responses. I'm not being a hard arse, far from it, and it's a cheap shot to make against someone for merely disagreeing with you. I just don't mourn for people I don't know, or for those who haven't had a personal impact on my life. If it were otherwise, I'd have collapsed long ago through grief. And, looking around me, it's pretty clear that the nation, whilst touched by the tragedy of her death, aren't in mourning for the girl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    Einhard wrote: »
    I just don't mourn for people I don't know, or for those who haven't had a personal impact on my life. If it were otherwise, I'd have collapsed long ago through grief.

    People are allowed to feel sad, to empathise and to be touched by someone's death and expressing that with those around you is the natural reaction in situations like these.
    I'm not a GAA fan, I'm not even in Ireland at the moment but I've been following the story from the other side of the world, I'm quite close in age to Michaela RIP and the utter tragedy and devastation of the whole situation has moved me beyond words.
    Undoubtedly it's not a fraction of what her husband, family and friends are experiencing but it's valid, it's human and it's a sadness that I'm sure will inspire hundreds of strangers to reach out to her family in whatever way they can, to send condolences, to write letters or send flowers. These outpourings could be the hope and love that get them through the day during their darkest moments, to know that Michaela made a difference and impacted on so many lives.

    I can't even begin to imagine how the Harte or McAreavey families or anyone who was close to this poor woman will ever recover from this. My thoughts are with all of them and I hope they can draw strength from their memories of Michaela to get through the dark road ahead. RIP x


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Einhard wrote: »
    This is why I hate posting on these threads. If you don't step neatly in line with the prevailing mood, even if you are being respectful in not doing so, you're open to self righteous and personalised responses. I'm not being a hard arse, far from it, and it's a cheap shot to make against someone for merely disagreeing with you.

    Yup, agreed and withdraw my remarks to you. Of course I know your not a hardarse.

    I'm not sure if you follow sports, but when a county (except Cork, Kerry or Meath) win the Sam I celebrate for them.. I celebrate for the winner of the soccer world cup or the winner of The Grand National..

    By the same token I can mourn the loss of someone who touches the nation's heart.. She didn't die the dirty death of Gerry Ryan or Katie French, she didn't mix with gangland.. She died an innocent abroad, she was any other parents daughter, a brother/sister or partner.. See where I'm coming from?.. She's my daughter when she's out and I'm worried about every bollox out there with designs on her, or my son who was recently beat up in a road rage incident.. So there ya go, I can mourn for her loss, or maybe a better way of saying it is I mourn for her family, because their sorrow touches me and others like me.

    And I'm happy that our President will represent me at her funeral.

    To finish, because I do have the height of respect for you as a poster. I withdraw my remarks re. you being hard arsed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    I don't understand why the President will attend either.
    If this had been an unknown irish citizen murdered in a Dallas robbery or a citizen murdered in Finglas robbery, then she would'nt be going.
    Are some (non-office holder) citizens more important than others?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    snubbleste wrote: »
    I don't understand why the President will attend either.
    If this had been an unknown irish citizen murdered in a Dallas robbery or a citizen murdered in Finglas robbery, then she would'nt be going.
    Are some (non-office holder) citizens more important than others?

    Her ADC represented her office, and the people at the funeral of the young Anthony Campbell murdered in Finglas in 2006.

    He was an ordinary inner city lad, an apprentice plumber.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,006 ✭✭✭Ann22


    I've spoken to loads of people who've said they can't stop thinking about it. It's just tragic. God help her poor husband and family..how must they be feeling?

    Your head would be going silly going over it in your head thinking that simple decision to have a few biscuits signed her death warrant and if her husband had gone up instead, what would've happened? If only she'd run out of the room or if only they'd went for another swim etc... :(

    When I hear sad stories like that I wonder if life is mapped out for us. Many will say I'm talking crap but I wonder if that her time and she was just meant to go? That's the only way I could imagine beginning to come to terms with it. That she was only here on loan, that maybe she was a special spirit and God wanted her home:(.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    Don't think it's got anything to do with being a celeb/daughter of well known manager etc, it's just a sad, tragic story tbh. I never even heard of her before all this happened fwiw.

    But yeah, I can only imagine what's going through the husband's mind at the moment...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 mayhemnow


    Ann22 wrote: »
    I've spoken to loads of people who've said they can't stop thinking about it. It's just tragic. God help her poor husband and family..how must they be feeling?

    Your head would be going silly going over it in your head thinking that simple decision to have a few biscuits signed her death warrant and if her husband had gone up instead, what would've happened? If only she'd run out of the room or if only they'd went for another swim etc... :(

    When I hear sad stories like that I wonder if life is mapped out for us. Many will say I'm talking crap but I wonder if that her time and she was just meant to go? That's the only way I could imagine beginning to come to terms with it. That she was only here on loan, that maybe she was a special spirit and God wanted her home:(.
    How could you possibly think that this was how her life was meant to end? A happy bride on her honeymoon , terrified in her last moments of life. This line of crap is what will no doubt be said to her husband and family over the next while. Wrong place, wrong time, tragically so. How could you believe this was a plan for someone's life, don't get it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭mstan


    snubbleste wrote: »
    I don't understand why the President will attend either.
    If this had been an unknown irish citizen murdered in a Dallas robbery or a citizen murdered in Finglas robbery, then she would'nt be going.
    Are some (non-office holder) citizens more important than others?

    Jesus Christ, some people will moan and complain about anything. Forget the fact that a family are going through a terrible tragedy at the moment.

    Also, the President comes from Co. Down. The same county that Michaela's husband is from. Can you tell me with 100% percent confidence that none of the McAleese family know any of the McAreaveys?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,006 ✭✭✭Ann22


    mayhemnow wrote: »
    How could you possibly think that this was how her life was meant to end? A happy bride on her honeymoon , terrified in her last moments of life. This line of crap is what will no doubt be said to her husband and family over the next while. Wrong place, wrong time, tragically so. How could you believe this was a plan for someone's life, don't get it

    I just said I wondered if it was so. Many believe that we all have a certain time here on earth. That no matter what you do, you're meant to die at a particular time. Of course it feels so wrong that such a lovely young woman should be taken from her family in such a cruel way:(.

    It can be a small comfort to some to feel that maybe it's all out of our hands. A friend of mine lost her son in a tragic accident a few years ago. She nearly went out of her mind with grief and thoughts of how it could've been prevented. When he was only a wee tot she had a disturbing dream one night that someone told her he was an 'old soul'.........then some time later when he died, she thought back to the dream. The idea that maybe he was only here for a certain time gave her some comfort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭pocketvenus


    mstan wrote: »
    Jesus Christ, some people will moan and complain about anything. Forget the fact that a family are going through a terrible tragedy at the moment.

    Also, the President comes from Co. Down. The same county that Michaela's husband is from. Can you tell me with 100% percent confidence that none of the McAleese family know any of the McAreaveys?


    You are right there and I have no issue at all with the president attending. I would be more surprised if she did nor or at least send her aide de comp.

    I am involved in the GAA in my county and so is my family, the hurling side mind you but overall no matter what area of the GAA you are involved in it is a family. Also thorugh this I know that the president does know the Harte family quiet well and would attend the funeral no matter what.

    What I think is disgraceful though is the Irish Times calling her Ms Micheala Harte. That is so disreceptul & bad reporting. She was married to John McAreavey and took his name every other media outlet in Ireland, UK and beyond have reported it right but why the Irish Times feel the need to incorrectly report I do not know.

    I do not buy the excuse I have heard from commentators that people would not know who she was otherwise, all they need to add is the daughter of Mickey Harte and everyone in Ireland knows who the poor girl was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 dietgirl


    Questions are being asked in the tourism hot spot about the unusual haste with which police have brought murder charges against three hotel staff in the Michaela Harte case
    TWO EMOTIONS outstripped others for Mauritians as the Michaela Harte tragedy developed on the tropical Indian Ocean island over the course of last week.
    When members of the public gave their opinion to The Irish Times about the events unfolding before them most displayed genuine sadness that a honeymooning couple from Ireland could have their futures destroyed in such a brutal way on their island home.
    As the week progressed, however, and the international media – predominantly from Ireland and England – arrived to cover the tragedy as it developed, their sorrow was in many cases overtaken by amazement.
    According to taxi driver Baboo Ramnath, most of the people he had talked to about the death as he went about his job had never seen the authorities move so fast to secure admissions of guilt from individuals charged with such a serious crime as murder.
    “People I have talked to were very shocked and saddened by what happened to the Irish couple holidaying with us. Mainly because something like this rarely happens to tourists here – at least I do not remember it happening before at such an exclusive hotel. But also because many people here rely on tourism for their livelihood. Now they are afraid that such a thing will scare tourists away.
    “Life here can be hard for many people, so tourism is very important. We are not the only island in the region known for tourism, and maybe foreigners will now choose the Seychelles over us.
    “We are glad to see that the police have been successful at their investigation, but murder cases often go on for years here. We wonder how the police can be so successful with this case when in many local cases they seem to have greater difficulty.”
    Michaela Harte, the daughter of Tyrone senior football manager Mickey Harte, was on honeymoon with her new husband, John McAreavey, at the exclusive Legends Hotel in Grand Gaube, a fishing village in the north of Mauritius, when she was strangled in her room.
    Room attendant Avinash Treebhoowoon (29) of Plaines des Roches, floor manager Sandip Mooneea (41) of Petit Raffray and cleaner Raj Theekoy (33) of the Cottages have all been charged in connection with her murder. The first two have had a provisional murder charge brought against them, the last a charge of conspiracy to murder. All three were arrested and charged within 48 hours Harte’s body being found. By Thursday morning the police said they had secured confessions from two of the three men.
    WHILE THE authorities’ all-action approach to the case appears impressive, one has to ask if the way they have gone about handling it weaken the prosecution’s case when it comes to the trial.
    The legal system in Mauritius is similar to that of its old colonial master, Britain. Some of the foreign journalists covering the story this week have expressed major reservations about how the authorities have dealt with the accused. Could the amount of evidence given to journalists covering the investigation prejudice the case and lead to claims of trial by media? Also, confusion surrounds which of the accused has allegedly admitted to what in relation to Harte’s death, as conflicting information has been circulated by lawyers for the accused as well as the police.
    In addition, a highly unusual statement was made by the Mauritian head of state, Sir Anerood Jugnanth, on Thursday night. When local press yesterday asked him to comment on the case he said: “Those who killed Michaela Harte do not deserve to live.”
    Journalists’ confusion over how the authorities are dealing with the case is shared by Ravi Rutnah, a barrister representing murder accused Avinash Treebhoowoon.
    Rutnah, who only recently returned to Mauritius to practise law after 13 years working as a barrister in England, said the method of inquiry used by the police to build their case against the three accused is archaic at best. “I have been taken aback . . . Until yesterday I did not know my client was going to confess, but that is what I have been told by journalists. I was surprised to hear my client had confessed in front of me, as this did not happen.”
    Rutnah went on to say that when he met his client in police custody he advised him to exercise his constitutional right to silence. The police found this unacceptable, he said. “For advising my client that he had a right to stay silent I was threatened by the police that I would be put in jail for obstructing the inquiry.”
    Rutnah also pointed out that during the initial court hearing he asked that an independent doctor examine his client, to look for evidence that he had been beaten and tortured while in police custody, a claim his client made. A police doctor was appointed to carry out the task, however, and he found that the accused had not been harmed. “I specially asked for an independent doctor, and even if I did not one should have been appointed. I feel that a lot of things happening with this case are not right. I am now considering whether to approach the government to try and get the system reformed.
    “I am going to take points of law [in relation to the procedures the police have followed] in this case at some point. But I have not made up my mind what strategies I will employ. I have to bear in mind that someone has lost their life, and justice needs to be done.”
    Looking at the value of the tourist industry to the Mauritian government, as well as the jobs it provides to local residents, it is not difficult to conclude that wrapping up this case quickly is of the utmost importance.
    ALONG WITH THE finance, sugar and textile sectors, tourism is one of the pillars of the Mauritian economy, which is recognised as one of the strongest in Africa.
    Despite the impact of the global downturn on western nations, visitor arrivals to Mauritius rose by 6.8 percent between January and November last year from a year earlier, buoyed by an increase in tourists from France and Germany. The ministry of tourism said in a statement at the end of last year that tourist numbers for the period were 819,978 – extremely high when one considers that the volcanic island has a population of just 1.3 million. “France and Germany were our main markets during this period. They progressed by 9.2 percent and 2.3 percent respectively,” the statement said.
    Revenue for 2010 from the tourism sector has been forecast at about 39 billion rupees (€965 million), up 9.3 percent on the 35.6 billion rupees generated in 2009, the central bank said.
    By Thursday evening the publicity had had an extremely negative effect on the price of shares in Naiade Resorts Ltd – the company that owns Legends hotel – on the local stock market, as they dropped 6.2 per cent.
    Has a need to protect the country’s tourism sector prompted the authorities to deviate from acceptable procedure in a bid to secure convictions quickly? Rutnah believes so. “It is my impression the police are acting under lots of pressure from international quarters. In addition, the prime minister’s office is in charge of the police. I feel a lot of sympathy with the family, but the government has not acted responsibly in this case. They have over-reacted.”
    Paper-thin paradises?

    Fionn Davenport explains why many tourist idylls are not what they seem
    Mauritius prizes its tourism business, as was evident this week from the many statements from the authorities following Michaela Harte’s death and the swift response from its security forces. It is one of many relatively poor countries where tourism is a major local industry. In some countries tourism is the only local industry; this isn’t the case in Mauritius. In many tropical paradises there is a sharp contrast between the rich visitors and the poor workers and locals.
    Whether it’s the Caribbean, the Indian Ocean or anywhere else along the tropical belt, what lies beyond the wall of the tourist compound is very different from what lies within it. Inside the wall is perfection: gardens in bloom, golf courses the right shade of green, pool an idyllic 32 degrees.
    Beyond the perimeter fences and the phalanxes of security personnel that patrol them lies the developing world, with all its socio-economic ills: chronic poverty, unemployment, terrible sanitation and non-existent services. Enormous efforts are made to shield tourists from these realities.
    Mauritius is by no means the worst example. Holidaymakers to Dubai will never get a peek inside the compounds where most of the emirate’s imported labour force resides. Visitors to a top-end resort in the Maldives will see only the main international airport, in Malé, before being whisked off by motorboat or aquaplane to their hotel, which often occupies its own atoll. And so they’ll never suspect that many of the 80,000 foreign workers who live in the country, primarily as hotel employees and construction workers, are, according to a US state department report published in 2009, subjected to “fraudulent recruitment practices, confinement, confiscation of identity and travel documents, debt bondage, or general slave-like conditions”.
    This isn’t the case in Mauritius, but many hotels and resorts throughout the tropical belt use staff sourced by recruitment agencies, usually from countries even poorer than the ones they are moving to: Bangladesh, Burma, the Philippines, Haiti, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Guatemala.
    It is common for service-industry workers to work longer hours for less pay than they were originally promised, to be housed in substandard conditions and to incur debt bondage that they will struggle to clear. It is hardly surprising that petty theft, the most common spillover of these injustices, is a fact of everyday life in the tropical belt.
    Paradise devotes a lot of energy to ensuring the tourist never becomes aware of these realities: it’s a matter of economic survival. Local authorities go to great lengths to protect guests from life beyond the perimeter fence – hence the security presence and often a gentle-but- unequivocal suggestion to guests that they need not venture too far off the reservation unless it’s by organised tour. It might be paradise, but not for everybody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Ann22 wrote: »
    That she was only here on loan, that maybe she was a special spirit and God wanted her home:(.

    No offence Ann but this kind of religious claptrap is not at all helpful.
    If 'god wanted her home' as you say, don't you think he might have found a better way of going about it than having her strangled to death on her honeymoon?

    Incidents like this, among countless others, only reinforce the point that there is no god, at least not one that cares much about us anyway. I believe Michaela and John McAreavey were quite religious themselves, and very clean-living people by all accounts, so this was their reward from God? No, this was the world going about its business like it always does, with no foresight, no rhyme, no reason. Just blind uncaring indifference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,006 ✭✭✭Ann22


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    No offence Ann but this kind of religious claptrap is not at all helpful.
    If 'god wanted her home' as you say, don't you think he might have found a better way of going about it than having her strangled to death on her honeymoon?

    QUOTE]

    Good point Aiden. It's hard to know what to be saying in a situation like this. It's just an awful tragedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭juma


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    No offence Ann but this kind of religious claptrap is not at all helpful.
    If 'god wanted her home' as you say, don't you think he might have found a better way of going about it than having her strangled to death on her honeymoon?

    Incidents like this, among countless others, only reinforce the point that there is no god, at least not one that cares much about us anyway. I believe Michaela and John McAreavey were quite religious themselves, and very clean-living people by all accounts, so this was their reward from God? No, this was the world going about its business like it always does, with no foresight, no rhyme, no reason. Just blind uncaring indifference.

    Well Im sure from the family's point of view, its the "claptrap" rubbish that you post which is not helpful at all. Their fate is probably one of the few things helping the Harte/McAreavey families through such a dark time. I just hope none of them are Boards members. Because the amount of nonsense posted in this thread so far is crazy and I just hope grieving relatives dont see it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭macquarie


    juma wrote: »
    Well Im sure from the family's point of view, its the "claptrap" rubbish that you post which is not helpful at all. Their fate is probably one of the few things helping the Harte/McAreavey families through such a dark time. I just hope none of them are Boards members. Because the amount of nonsense posted in this thread so far is crazy and I just hope grieving relatives dont see it.

    The only "nonsense" being posted here is the notion that god wanted her home and thought the best method of doing this was having her strangled to death at age 27.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭juma


    macquarie wrote: »
    The only "nonsense" being posted here is the notion that god wanted her home and thought the best method of doing this was having her strangled to death at age 27.

    Well I never said God wanted her home. But death is a part of life. Something we all have to deal with. And when it happens in such tragic circumstances religion can be one of the few comforts for a family.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    juma wrote: »
    Well Im sure from the family's point of view, its the "claptrap" rubbish that you post which is not helpful at all. Their fate is probably one of the few things helping the Harte/McAreavey families through such a dark time. I just hope none of them are Boards members. Because the amount of nonsense posted in this thread so far is crazy and I just hope grieving relatives dont see it.

    say what you like. All I've said is the truth of the matter.

    And yes I'm aware that the Harte and McAreavey families are of strong religious faith, and that if that's a source of some help and comfort to them then great. They need all the help they can get. We're getting into a whole other issue now though which is not for this thread, so let's say no more on that.


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