BBC One HD not currently available on Irish EPG

the corpo · 08-01-2011 09:08AM

got sky+hd installed yesterday. bbc3, bbc4 and cbeebies were part of the epg, today they are missing. any idea why?

dolallyoh · 08-01-2011 09:36AM

the corpo wrote: »

got sky+hd installed yesterday. bbc3, bbc4 and cbeebies were part of the epg, today they are missing. any idea why?

Because today your card is working ! Take card out and reboot the box and they return, but that defeats the purpose. Welcome to Sky Ireland

Edited to add, you can still add these channels into the "off the epg" area in other channels but no epg and no recording.

dolallyoh · 08-01-2011 09:37AM

Aidan! wrote: »

Well, Hello.
My name is Aidan and I live in an extremely rural area in the ROI, I have a freesat SD receiver and I get
BBC1 NI
BBC2 NI
BBC1 Scotland
BBC2 Scotland
BBC ALBA
BBC1 Wales
BBC2 Wales
BBC1 England
BBC 2 England
BBC London, Yorkshire, Oxford etc.
BBC Three
BBC Four
BBC News Channel
BBC Parliament
CBeebies!
CBBC and so on...
That's only some BBC channels.
Also I would like to add freesat is growing all the time , adding more channels. Also I think it's adding more HD channels aswell.
I would like to add that the quality of these channels are superb for SD.
I have a SD box you will get all the other HD channels with the HD box. I shall be purshing a HD freesat receiver soon because I will be able to get new HD channels when they add them! Also with the HD receiver you can also use BBC iPlayer.
Aidan!.

There are already 3 HD channels. I am 99% sure you can't use iplayer unless you hve a uk ip address or are using a complicated vpn solution that provides one.

the corpo · 08-01-2011 10:36AM

dolallyoh wrote: »

Because today your card is working ! Take card out and reboot the box and they return, but that defeats the purpose. Welcome to Sky Ireland

Edited to add, you can still add these channels into the "off the epg" area in other channels but no epg and no recording.

argh! that's infuriating! i was with smart telecoms tv service, and it was appalling, but i already miss the channels i was taking for granted. not even itv/utv is available on the epg?

Minstrel27 · 08-01-2011 12:03PM

the corpo wrote: »

not even itv/utv is available on the epg?

No. They need to be tuned into Other Channels along with five.

the corpo · 08-01-2011 12:20PM

bah
is there any shortcut to get to 'other channels'?
pretty long winded as is

watty · 08-01-2011 01:55PM

no
unless you use a 3rd party remote with Macro

baileyjackson · 08-01-2011 03:51PM

How does UPC have all these channels?
They have BBC 3-4 NEWS 24, WORLD NEWS, CBEEBIES, CBBC
UTV ITV2-4 CITV
CITY ??

I just dont get it....

If TV3 dont want ITV in Ireland, why are they on UPC who arguably have a bigger market share in areas like Dublin?

Minstrel27 · 08-01-2011 06:29PM

UPC have them because they negotiated carriage deals with the various channels. Nothing to stop Sky doing similar. Sky don't need to do this as Irish people continue to pay them regardless.

STB · 08-01-2011 10:16PM

baileyjackson wrote: »

How does UPC have all these channels?
They have BBC 3-4 NEWS 24, WORLD NEWS, CBEEBIES, CBBC
UTV ITV2-4 CITV
CITY ??

I just dont get it....

If TV3 dont want ITV in Ireland, why are they on UPC who arguably have a bigger market share in areas like Dublin?

Bar City Channel all the rest are free to air on the same satellite, without subscription.

dolallyoh · 09-01-2011 11:54AM

the corpo wrote: »

bah
is there any shortcut to get to 'other channels'?
pretty long winded as is

I was a sky subscriber for 5 years. When bbc hd moved off the epg the camel's back was well and truly broken. Its not the difficulty of accessing those channels, its the fact you can't record them.

So in Dec I got a humax foxsat dual tuner for 224stg in Belfast to replace my sky hd box. Its slightly sluggish but everything is on the epg and everyone is happy.

I made sure I told sky why I was cancelling and they agreed they couldn't (wouldn't) do anything. If they were a smarter company they could have put me on to a uk package at no cost to them.

Minstrel27 · 09-01-2011 01:55PM

dolallyoh wrote: »

If they were a smarter company they could have put me on to a uk package at no cost to them.

I am sure that the phone people aren't allowed to do that. You would be paying less afterall.

John mac · 09-01-2011 10:03PM

the corpo wrote: »

bah
is there any shortcut to get to 'other channels'?
pretty long winded as is

services,9,5,select.

John mac · 09-01-2011 10:06PM

dolallyoh wrote: »

I was a sky subscriber for 5 years. When bbc hd moved off the epg the camel's back was well and truly broken. Its not the difficulty of accessing those channels, its the fact you can't record them.

.

BBCHD is on channel 143 without a hd sub.

dolallyoh · 10-01-2011 11:40AM

John mac wrote: »

BBCHD is on channel 143 without a hd sub.

Thanks, i didn't type that out right. I mean when bbc one hd was introduced off the epg.

donalfo · 11-01-2011 12:13AM

Oh, just got bbc one hd on my combo box. Just have to wait on channel 4 hd to go freesat next. Who needs Sky?

mossym · 11-01-2011 04:01AM

donalfo wrote: »

Who needs Sky?

anyone who wants sports, history channel, discovery channel, NG, or a ton of other channels who aren't available free. if you don't need them saves you a packet, but people do tend to have different tastes and the tv available on freesat doesn't always appeal to everyone

watty · 11-01-2011 10:02AM

However in reality though people are convinced that they want all these channels the novelty wears off and people watch normally about 10 channels. Sky1 is the most popular pay channel and only has 2% viewing time.

PayTV is very poor value.
See http://www.saortv.info/channels/uk-televison/

Cantona's Collars · 11-01-2011 11:03AM

The majority of my viewing is the documentary channels,I find a huge portion of the free to air channels are filled with soaps and reality tv,hours and hours of the stuff:( The best fta channels are Ch4,More4. At least theres some decent stuff on there at night.
I wonder what % of people watch fta simply for soaps/dancing/karaoke shows.The only thing on ITV of interest for the whole week was the football on Sunday and Jim Beglin managed to ruin that.Even so it is crazy that BBConeHD isn't on the Irish EPG.But even the missus has gotten used to a couple of button presses to get it in 'other channels' (Eastenders is still miserable in HD)

cartman51773 · 11-01-2011 01:12PM

your dead right. sky is a bit expensive but on freeview or freesat you cant get any discovery channels or history channels so its no good to me either.

Minstrel27 · 11-01-2011 03:10PM

I get the documentary channels from Poland. Most have English audio so happy days. Much cheaper than Sky too.

cartman51773 · 11-01-2011 06:16PM

yes but is that on a different satellite to the uk channels.

watty · 11-01-2011 06:30PM

So?
Not hard.
you can easily get 20 different Satellites in Ireland.
You can easily have 4 on one dish.

This would get Polish and UK http://www.techtir.ie/saortv/freesat

Minstrel27 · 11-01-2011 07:37PM

cartman51773 wrote: »

yes but is that on a different satellite to the uk channels.

I was pointing out that documentary channels can be gotten cheaply if wanted.

lukeeman · 11-01-2011 08:26PM

I am trying to tune in bbc1hd to my sky box, its an old grundig box
but i keep getting no channels available, am i doing something wrong.

Pat Gleeson · 11-01-2011 08:27PM

zerks wrote: »

(Eastenders is still miserable in HD)

Eastenders is miserable.
The way it's shot anyway (predominanty grey pallette) lends itself to a dour look which would be magnified in HD - perish the thought.

dolallyoh · 11-01-2011 09:43PM

lukeeman wrote: »

I am trying to tune in bbc1hd to my sky box, its an old grundig box
but i keep getting no channels available, am i doing something wrong.

What details are you putting in.

Frequency: 10.84700 GHz
V
22
FEC 5/6

enfant terrible · 11-01-2011 10:14PM

lukeeman wrote: »

I am trying to tune in bbc1hd to my sky box, its an old grundig box
but i keep getting no channels available, am i doing something wrong.

You need a HD box to view the HD channels.

mossym · 17-01-2011 09:53AM

watty wrote: »

However in reality though people are convinced that they want all these channels the novelty wears off and people watch normally about 10 channels. Sky1 is the most popular pay channel and only has 2% viewing time.

PayTV is very poor value.
See http://www.saortv.info/channels/uk-televison/

i had a look at my viewing over the last week on sky box. also looked at recordings that have been made over the past few months, what was left on teh box anyway

you're right about the 10 channels, maybe even less

mine were the 4 sky sports channels, discovery, nat geog, history, military and film 4(only fta channel with any use in the last few weeks)
even on my htpc in another room, where i don't have a sky box, use of sky player outweighed fta viewing by 4 or 5 to 1.

my wife on the other hand probably evens out those stats, but the view that i've seen posted on these boards a lot(not pointing this at you watty) that all everyone really watches is fta channels and sky are a complete waste, well personally i think it's a load of rubbish.

watty · 17-01-2011 10:55AM

I think about 50% of families really watch pay TV much. But 80% of families have pay Tv.

So as you say it's not true "all everyone really watches is fta channels and sky are a complete waste"

But it is true that over 90% of viewing is FTA (But people really want the other 10%) and that for historical reasons maybe 20% to 30% (maybe even 1/3rd) are paying for a service they would not miss if they only had Irish TV + FTA UK Tv.

I've done a lot of real research on this. Real figures are out there. So Pay TV is not "rubbish" People do want to watch it. But not as many as are actually paying, so on my web sites and posts I'm just trying to educate people about their choices. Then they choose in an informed way.

BBC One HD not currently available on Irish EPG

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