Liverpool's Ryan Babel faces FA probe for Twitter blast at Howard Webb

Revolution9 · 09-01-2011 11:39PM

adox wrote: »

I can't understand why the Howard Webb is corrupt brigade were so up in arms earlier on the match thread when he gave that peno. He was only acting according to type by their deluded conspiracy theory reckoning.

I find it hard to believe you can't understand the anger of fans that lost an important match to a controversial goal.
Being morally outraged by twitter comments is another bag of jelly beans all together

adox · 09-01-2011 11:40PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

These sort off outbursts are a refreshing change from the usual PC sh!te trotted by everyman and his dog each week.

But it doesn't have to be one or the other. He went way over the top when posting that picture.

The fact that I hold that view doesn't necessarily follow that I hold "the usual PC ****e" views either.

Revolution9 · 09-01-2011 11:44PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

These sort off outbursts are a refreshing change from the usual PC sh!te trotted by everyman and his dog each week.

+1

adox · 09-01-2011 11:44PM

Revolution9 wrote: »

I find it hard to believe you can't understand the anger of fans that lost an important match to a controversial goal.
Being morally outraged by twitter comments is another bag of jelly beans all together

Look it was a retort to your reply, but with some truth to it too. Of course I can understand Liverpool fans being upset losing to what was a controversial penalty. Having said that, I was aiming that post at plenty some Liverpool supporters posting on here saying that Webb is corrupt etc.

Mister men · 09-01-2011 11:46PM

The Muppet wrote: »

I didn't say that at all, but you know that , hence no quotes.

You intrepreted the picture the same as I did and I'd imagine the same as The FA will.

Have a good night.

Here's the quote from yourself.

"A player publically accusing a ref of being corrupt is not a smart move. He'll be in big trouble over that, they'll want to stamp that nonsense out straight away. They'll make an example of Mr Babel for sure"

Once again Muppet where did Babel accuse Webb of being corrupt?

citytillidie · 09-01-2011 11:49PM

adox wrote: »

But they went further than saying they thought he was **** at his job.
Posting pictures of him with a United jersey on straight after the match and the ****e that Dalgliis jar spouted. I'm sure he could sue for defamation of character or something similar.

Also lol at the comments that Babel was only being honest. Do you really think he thinks Webb goes out of his way to favour United, when he thinks about it in the cold light of day.

He acted like a child having a tantrum who couldn't keep his emotions in check. Bringing the game into disrepute IMO.

Then he should look for the person who first created the image as its been online for a while today is not the 1st day its been seen

tommyhaas · 09-01-2011 11:51PM

adox wrote: »

I can't understand why the Howard Webb is corrupt brigade were so up in arms earlier on the match thread when he gave that peno. He was only acting according to type by their deluded conspiracy theory reckoning.

What? So should you be annoyed if someone burgles your house? I mean after all, the burgler is only acting according to type

adox wrote: »

But it doesn't have to be one or the other. He went way over the top when posting that picture.

The fact that I hold that view doesn't necessarily follow that I hold "the usual PC ****e" views either.

Yes and Babel may have another view. He is entitled to tweet what he wants, and regardless of whether it's right or wrong, it's opinion and he is entitled to that

The Muppet · 09-01-2011 11:53PM

Mister men wrote: »

You said BABEL said Webb was corrupt.

Mister men wrote: »

Here's the quote from yourself.

"A player publically accusing a ref of being corrupt is not a smart move. He'll be in big trouble over that, they'll want to stamp that nonsense out straight away. They'll make an example of Mr Babel for sure"

Once again Muppet where did Babel accuse Webb of being corrupt?

Theres no quote from Babel in that post . Will you quote where I said what you say I said, If not, Why are you making up things and accusing me of saying them?

Revolution9 · 09-01-2011 11:54PM

citytillidie wrote: »

Then he should look for the person who first created the image as its been online for a while today is not the 1st day its been seen

Spurs fans made it after the 5-2 defeat at OT a few seasons back. Spurs were 2-0, Carrick ran in to the box, Gomes won the ball yet Webb blew for a penalty and Spurs fans blamed Webb for the 5-2 defeat.

Although don't tell BERBA coz he thinks only Liverpool fans blame referees

adox · 09-01-2011 11:56PM

tommyhaas wrote: »

What? So should you be annoyed if someone burgles your house? I mean after all, the burgler is only acting according to type

Well if I knew a burgler was in my house for 90 minutes Id expect something to be knicked.

tommyhaas wrote: »

Yes and Babel may have another view. He is entitled to tweet what he wants, and regardless of whether it's right or wrong, it's opinion and he is entitled to that

And face the consequences for his actions.

09-01-2011 11:57PM

So who'll be making the thread next time Liverpool get a decision in their favour?

Revolution9 · 10-01-2011 12:00AM

Liam O wrote: »

So who'll be making the thread next time Liverpool get a decision in their favour?

Or the next time one goes against Man U

tommyhaas · 10-01-2011 12:01AM

Revolution9 wrote: »

Spurs fans made it after the 5-2 defeat at OT a few seasons back. Spurs were 2-0, Carrick ran in to the box, Gomes won the ball yet Webb blew for a penalty and Spurs fans blamed Webb for the 5-2 defeat.

Although don't tell BERBA coz he thinks only Liverpool fans blame referees

They always get done up there

Hope Roy Carroll wont sue over this now

Mr. Presentable · 10-01-2011 12:14AM

Ordinary man wrote: »

Every team gets bad decisions- united got knocked out of cl last season with a joke sending off, chelsea got a blatently offside goal to decide the league last year, liverpool won the cl in 2005 with a debatable penalty, the list goes on.

If a ref is accused of bias by players and managers after every game, they won't do the job. How is webb supposed to decide if babel dived or if its a penalty after his outburst. I'd love to see video brought in

Where is there a pic of a ref in a shirt other than Man U? Now I don't know whether Webb is compromised or not, and I don't think his decisions today were all in favour of one side, but there is an old saying regarding smoke and fire.

In Italy Juventus were always alleged to have the ref in their pocket, and the familiar defences "you can't concede a penalty if you are in the opposition half for most of the game", "Of course we get more penalties, we are attacking more" and the like were trotted out.

We all know how that panned out, and ironically some of the greatest schadenfreude was exhibited by the group of fans here defending Webb.

This nice piece of satire appeared in timely fashion and illustrates nicely the commonly held belief among the public that some clubs are favoured by officialdom. Well, in this case, one in particular.

monkey9 · 10-01-2011 12:17AM

Ah here, this Webb is corrupt nonsense is just....well, nonsense.

He's not corrupt. He's just sh!t.

adox · 10-01-2011 12:19AM

monkey9 wrote: »

Ah here, this Webb is corrupt nonsense is just....well, nonsense.

He's not corrupt. He's just sh!t.

At last something back in the realms of reality.

Revolution9 · 10-01-2011 12:20AM

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

Where is there a pic of a ref in a shirt other than Man U? Now I don't know whether Webb is compromised or not, and I don't think his decisions today were all in favour of one side, but there is an old saying regarding smoke and fire.

In Italy Juventus were always alleged to have the ref in their pocket, and the familiar defences "you can't concede a penalty if you are in the opposition half for most of the game", "Of course we get more penalties, we are attacking more" and the like were trotted out.

We all know how that panned out, and ironically some of the greatest schadenfreude was exhibited by the group of fans here defending Webb.

This nice piece of satire appeared in timely fashion and illustrates nicely the commonly held belief among the public that some clubs are favoured by officialdom. Well, in this case, one in particular.

That article was posted on the 31th of December for anyone thinking it was a reaction after todays game.

markesmith · 10-01-2011 12:34AM

The infrastructure of EPL football is set up so that big teams get the big decisions their way, especially at home.

A dog with a hammer up his *rse knows that

parker kent · 10-01-2011 12:45AM

tommyhaas wrote: »

Yes and Babel may have another view. He is entitled to tweet what he wants, and regardless of whether it's right or wrong, it's opinion and he is entitled to that

A professional footballer is not entitled to tweet what he wants (nor is anybody for that matter). Can you not see how a player at a major team tweeting a picture of referee in a photo shopped picture wearing the jersey of a major rival is wrong? Can you not see how that is bringing the game into disrepute?

Also on a general point, where were the Webb is biased towards United brigade when he has sent off United players or given decisions against them? A few high profile decisions hardly makes him biased. That people even have to spell out something as blatantly obvious as that is ridiculous. 50/50 calls happen in football. Throwing the rattle out of the pram when one goes against you is a little much.

PARKHEAD67 · 10-01-2011 12:47AM

Mister men wrote: »

He's spot on. Webb is as corrupt as they come.

I hate man u but berbatovs legs were clipped.Peno. Gerrard was reckless.Stupid tackle.Had to go.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 10-01-2011 12:48AM

markesmith wrote: »

The infrastructure of EPL football is set up so that big teams get the big decisions their way, especially at home.

A dog with a hammer up his *rse knows that

I honestly dont know if you're being sarcastic or not, but if you're serious, would yeh elaborate please?

Revolution9 · 10-01-2011 12:51AM

parker kent wrote: »

A professional footballer is not entitled to tweet what he wants (nor is anybody for that matter). Can you not see how a player at a major team tweeting a picture of referee in a photo shopped picture wearing the jersey of a major rival is wrong? Can you not see how that is bringing the game into disrepute?

Howard Webb instructing Blackpool players to dive more often is more disruptive than Babel letting off some steam on his social network page.
Yet Babel will get the hefty fine, Webb will get to officiate all the high profile Premier League games.

10-01-2011 01:13AM

Fair play to Babbel its about time a big deal was made out of webb's major bias towards united maybe all the publicity from this might make him think twice the next time is about to rule in favour of his beloved united.

LOL @ the people who think he is not completely biased, you dont see mock ups of any other refs in united jerseys or hear fans constantly pointing out the continued favoritism of other refs towards united so there is obviously cause for it

tommyhaas · 10-01-2011 01:38AM

parker kent wrote: »

A professional footballer is not entitled to tweet what he wants (nor is anybody for that matter). Can you not see how a player at a major team tweeting a picture of referee in a photo shopped picture wearing the jersey of a major rival is wrong? Can you not see how that is bringing the game into disrepute?

Also on a general point, where were the Webb is biased towards United brigade when he has sent off United players or given decisions against them? A few high profile decisions hardly makes him biased. That people even have to spell out something as blatantly obvious as that is ridiculous. 50/50 calls happen in football. Throwing the rattle out of the pram when one goes against you is a little much.

Firstly, I think Webb had a poor game, not that he's biased or corrupt. I do however think that refs can be intimedated at Old Trafford. Im not saying everything will go Utds way, just that they can have an advantage where there is a tight decision. This however largly applies to home teams everywhere

Wrt Babel and the picture, Im not holding Babel up as any kind of Martyr, just stating I admire that fact he had the balls to come out and be honest in his opinion. Yes maybe he took things too far with the picture, but his reaction to the decisions after the game is typical of many fans reactions, and I believe he deserves credit for being honest

I think the picture itself however was tounge in cheek. Babel dosent strike me as the smartest, so I dont believe it was his way of implying corruption with out stating it, meerly it was a picture he found funny which suited the topic

Bring the game int disrepute? Yea I can see there's a case to be made alright, however I dont believe there should be

v3ttel · 10-01-2011 01:43AM

monkey9 wrote: »

Ah here, this Webb is corrupt nonsense is just....well, nonsense.

He's not corrupt. He's just sh!t.

Penalty decision? Wrong.
Sending off? Correct.
Not giving a penalty when Evans was having his shirt pulled off him in the box? Wrong.

He's just sh!te.

argosy2006 · 10-01-2011 01:53AM

Webb clearly had money on Man u , and on a sending off

eagle eye · 10-01-2011 01:58AM

It was very immature from Babel. He is a professional footballer and has to understand that he will get in trouble over something like this.

flahavaj · 10-01-2011 02:02AM

Analia Eager Show-off wrote: »

Fair play to Babbel its about time a big deal was made out of webb's major bias towards united maybe all the publicity from this might make him think twice the next time is about to rule in favour of his beloved united.

LOL @ the people who think he is not completely biased, you dont see mock ups of any other refs in united jerseys or hear fans constantly pointing out the continued favoritism of other refs towards united so there is obviously cause for it

So it must be true because everyone says it? Give me a break.

Mr.Nice Guy · 10-01-2011 04:23AM

Have to laugh at the Liverpool fan's outrage alleging that referees have favouritism towards United. Short memories or what?

Mark Clattenburg - Merseyside derby incident

Clattenburg came under heavy criticism following his controversial officiating of the local derby match between Everton and Liverpool on 20 October 2007. During the match, he made a number of questionable decisions. His first was the award of a debatable penalty and red card for an incident involving Tony Hibbert and Steven Gerrard. He appeared to have been influenced by Gerrard in his decision to send off Hibbert as he initially took the yellow card out to book the defender, but after an interaction, albeit brief, with Gerrard, Clattenburg changed his mind and sent off Hibbert. He later failed to send off Dirk Kuyt for a waist-high lunge at Phil Neville. And the final controversy arose when he declined Everton's appeals for a penalty in the third minute of added time, with the score at 1–2, when Jamie Carragher pulled down Everton's Joleon Lescott in the Liverpool six yard box. Following the match, he was suspended from officiating the following weekend's Premier League matches and has never been given an Everton game to referee since.

I think Webb is a great referee and did an admirable job in near impossible circumstances during the World Cup Final. Yes he got one big decision wrong in the United/Liverpool match - not awarding United a penalty for the foul on Evans - but the best team still won in the end.

Jazzy · 10-01-2011 08:05AM

who is dalglish junior ?

Liverpool's Ryan Babel faces FA probe for Twitter blast at Howard Webb

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