Electric cars (bewbs inside)

Jesus Wept · 01-01-2011 08:31PM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

bewbs will appear here if someone can tell me how to insert a picture into my post, not a link.

No worries, Windsock is planning to share.

TeddyTedson · 01-01-2011 09:10PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

No worries, Windsock is planning to share.

feck.
Oh well, as promised though, here we are;

Bewbs

OctavarIan · 01-01-2011 10:04PM

Electric cars are a great idea but they'd want to get the infrastructure down first.

Jev/N · 01-01-2011 10:33PM

jd007 wrote: »

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Stop looking at my hands!

WindSock · 01-01-2011 11:06PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

No worries, Windsock is planning to share.

I only have 2, not sharing. Go find your own.

Guy:Incognito · 01-01-2011 11:36PM

stimpson wrote: »

Might work for a city commute but useless for anything else. 300 km range means you couldn't do Dublin-Cork-Dublin in a single day. If you run out of electrons you can't just fill up at the nearest socket.
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I think it was the Head of Renault Ireland or Uk that I heard talking about this. What they see as being the best system for this is a petrol station type system.

You pull in and stop in a bay, the station swaps your wasted battery for a charged one automatically from underneath. Should take the sametime as filling with petrol.

stovelid · 01-01-2011 11:37PM

Utter paucity of boobs alert.

Strongly-worded trade descriptions complaint to follow.

stimpson · 02-01-2011 12:57AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I think it was the Head of Renault Ireland or Uk that I heard talking about this. What they see as being the best system for this is a petrol station type system.

You pull in and stop in a bay, the station swaps your wasted battery for a charged one automatically from underneath. Should take the sametime as filling with petrol.

The glaring problem with that is the memory effect of rechargeable batteries. You could be swapping a new battery set for an old set that has half the capacity which could leave you stranded at the side of the road.

The other big problem with electric only cars is the weight of the batteries. For the same amount of energy they are multiple times the weight of fossil fuels. Weight is the enemy of efficiency, speed and handling.

old_aussie · 02-01-2011 01:21AM

Very soon electric cars will have a "fast charge" cycle that will provide 80% charge capacity in 30 mins.

Mitsubishi are soon to release the fast charge version of their (i-MiEV)car in Australia.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/60591/mitsubishi-i-miev-preview-electric-cars-land-in-australia/

The sooner we get away from oil burning cars the better.

TeddyTedson · 02-01-2011 01:24AM

old_aussie wrote: »

Very soon electric cars will have a "fast charge" cycle that will provide 80% charge capacity in 30 mins.

Mitsubishi are soon to release the fast charge version of their (i-MiEV)car in Australia.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/60591/mitsubishi-i-miev-preview-electric-cars-land-in-australia/

The sooner we get away from oil burning cars the better.

This would be great for ringing into work late saying you need to charge the car because the power went last night or something.

stimpson · 02-01-2011 01:34AM

old_aussie wrote: »

Very soon electric cars will have a "fast charge" cycle that will provide 80% charge capacity in 30 mins.

Mitsubishi are soon to release the fast charge version of their (i-MiEV)car in Australia.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/60591/mitsubishi-i-miev-preview-electric-cars-land-in-australia/

The sooner we get away from oil burning cars the better.

That car has a range of 160 km. You'd have to stop twice on the way to Cork which would add an hour to your journey.

My oil burner has 5 times that range and I can charge it to 100% in 3 minutes.

Overheal · 02-01-2011 07:16PM

stimpson wrote: »

I visit the inlaws on a more regular basis though and that's a 150 mile round trip which would be far more limiting. As for savings, my diesel does almost 70 mpg outside city driving. Hiring a similar size car for a weekend would cost nearly 300 quid.

It will take time before you can buy h2 on every forecourt but it will happen. Honda can provide solar panels that will crack water into hydrogen and oxygen if you live somewhere sunny. They are looking at a commercial launch as soon as 2018.

What are you driving, exactly

Donny5 · 02-01-2011 08:03PM

stimpson wrote: »

The glaring problem with that is the memory effect of rechargeable batteries. You could be swapping a new battery set for an old set that has half the capacity which could leave you stranded at the side of the road.

The other big problem with electric only cars is the weight of the batteries. For the same amount of energy they are multiple times the weight of fossil fuels. Weight is the enemy of efficiency, speed and handling.

The memory effect is specific to nickel cadmium batteries, which are not contenders in the EV world.

Your second point is, for now, very true, and will be the limiting factor for some time to come.

Ali Babba · 02-01-2011 08:11PM

It's been proved time and time again that electric cars are a waste of time as a daily driver, you'll need duel power to get you home. It takes too long to charge them and the range is too small. But as usual with anything green they'll keep pouring billions into development and keep the crackpots in jobs. Most of these green looneys should either be locked up or terminated when they showed signs of greenness.

stimpson · 02-01-2011 08:12PM

Overheal wrote: »

What are you driving, exactly

Avensis 2.0 D4D

Donny5 · 02-01-2011 08:20PM

stimpson wrote: »

Avensis 2.0 D4D

I'm calling bull**** on your 70 mpg claim, unless you drive like Alan Philips.

stimpson · 02-01-2011 08:45PM

I did Dublin to Drogheda last week and reset the trip computer. At 100kmh she returned 4.3 l/100km

Donny5 · 02-01-2011 08:55PM

stimpson wrote: »

I did Dublin to Drogheda last week and reset the trip computer. At 100kmh she returned 4.3 l/100km

That, while very impressive, is not nor close to 3.36L/100km, which is what you claimed earlier. Either way, that's a hell of a fuel economy from what is at all a light or compact car.

Overheal · 02-01-2011 09:06PM

^ Fish-tale BUSTED :pac:

Ali Babba wrote: »

It's been proved time and time again that electric cars are a waste of time as a daily driver, you'll need duel power to get you home. It takes too long to charge them and the range is too small. But as usual with anything green they'll keep pouring billions into development and keep the crackpots in jobs. Most of these green looneys should either be locked up or terminated when they showed signs of greenness.

The thing of it is that Batteries aren't going anywhere, last decade we entered the dawn of what I lovingly referred to as the Wireless Age. Laptops, Phones, Cars, Space Stations, iPads, Flashlights, Gameboys, power tools, Wiimotes, networking, charging mats*, mice, keyboards, headsets, you name it and we want it wireless. And we're getting very good at it.

It's not just cars, cars are merely benefiting from battery advances already being made. The good news however is that if the auto industry also puts its force behind researching better batteries, in unison with the tech industries, you're going to see much smarter batteries and much faster charging times with vastly extended ranges, and hybrids that use fuel cells rather than the gasoline generators seen on the Voltec Powertrain used by Chevy.

The electric that might not get you round trip to Cork today, will do so some years from now, perhaps sooner than you might expect. In the meantime the Electric is there and available for those that can make use of it. Sure, the laptop and the Cell Phone were around for decades before they were common household items but that didn't stop them from being sold and developed and used by those consumers that could see or take the advantage in it.

*The charging mat idea itself seems like wasted effort, but I've since seen the concept transfer over to electric razors and toothbrushes, a smart place not to have exposed electrical contacts.

stimpson · 02-01-2011 09:08PM

Donny5 wrote: »

That, while very impressive, is not nor close to 3.36L/100km, which is what you claimed earlier. Either way, that's a hell of a fuel economy from what is at all a light or compact car.

Works out at 66 imperial mpg.

There was an Eco race in the uk last year and an Avensis came second with 74.3 mpg.

Chardee MacDennis · 02-01-2011 09:11PM

whatever about electric cars, thats the most pretentious ad I have ever seen!

Overheal · 03-01-2011 12:51AM

stimpson wrote: »

Works out at 66 imperial mpg.

There was an Eco race in the uk last year and an Avensis came second with 74.3 mpg.

75 imperial mpg was the record for the car: http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews/car-and-driving/toyota-avensis-d-4d-range-1004264.html

Your 66 works out to roughly 55 US mpg. slightly less fantasmic than first thought.

stimpson · 03-01-2011 11:03AM

Overheal wrote: »

75 imperial mpg was the record for the car: http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews/car-and-driving/toyota-avensis-d-4d-range-1004264.html

Your 66 works out to roughly 55 US mpg. slightly less fantasmic than first thought.

Seeing as we're not in the US, most sane people would be talking imperial measurements. I could work it out in nautical miles if you like.

maninasia · 03-01-2011 12:34PM

Electric/hybrid cars will be very cheap to run compared to petrol/diesel, that's whats going to make them very popular. They are coming down the line quite quickly, almost every major car company is launching at least one this year or next year.
People are not thinking about this, many families have at least two cars, usually at least one is compact and used for daily use like city shopping or picking up the kids or daily work commute. It makes sense that at least one car of two will be an electric/hybrid as it will save big bucks in the long-run.

Overheal · 03-01-2011 02:29PM

stimpson wrote: »

Seeing as we're not in the US, most sane people would be talking imperial measurements. I could work it out in nautical miles if you like.

if you dont mind

stimpson · 03-01-2011 03:30PM

Overheal wrote: »

if you dont mind

57.3524 nmpg

Wetbench4 · 03-01-2011 06:06PM

i wouldn't buy a thing off bill cullen

Overflow · 03-01-2011 06:11PM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Saw this ad on the box. Seem to be making a big push for this year towards electric cars.
Might be worth getting if your buying a new car this year.
Save mega monies on petrol and I think the engines only have around two moving parts whereas petrol cars have hundreds, so they should be really reliable.

I assume they have an abundant and clean source of electricity to charge up all these cars, emm i think not !

FreudianSlippers · 03-01-2011 06:16PM

My Scirocco 2.0TDI gets 4.3 l/100km usually. The worst I've ever seen it go is around 6 l/100km but that's rare.

Overheal · 06-01-2011 08:54PM

Overheal wrote: »

*The charging mat idea itself seems like wasted effort, but I've since seen the concept transfer over to electric razors and toothbrushes, a smart place not to have exposed electrical contacts.

Another wild wireless-power idea: http://gizmodo.com/5726168/this-soup-is-cookingin-its-packaging

Glowing cereal boxes, Self-cooking cans of soup.

Electric cars (bewbs inside)

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