Alleged Taxi Race Row

Millicent · 31-12-2010 01:48PM

delancey42 wrote: »

Years of Government largesse has spawned a ' Racism Industry ' in this country - anyone got any ideas how many publically funded organisations spout nonsense about racism ? I can count 5 off the top of my head and doubtless there are more.
I have never seen /witnessed racism in any form in this country , I don't belive it exists - I believe it is a myth peddled by various groups to justify their continued existence and generous taxpayer funding :mad:

Really? You're seriously convinced that there is no racism in Ireland at all and that it is somehow, miraculously, not prone to the same problems of prejudice and small-mindedness that is evident in any other country in the world? What makes Ireland so special that we're all so magnanimous?

drdeadlift · 31-12-2010 01:54PM

Millicent wrote: »

Really? You're seriously convinced that there is no racism in Ireland at all and that it is somehow, miraculously, not prone to the same problems of prejudice and small-mindedness that is evident in any other country in the world? What makes Ireland so special that we're all so magnanimous?

There is a certain amount of racism in every country in the world.We don't have an exceptionally bad amount in Ireland to warrant what delancy mentions.
The anti racist brigade are outnumbering the racists in Ireland,

Millicent · 31-12-2010 01:58PM

drdeadlift wrote: »

There is a certain amount of racism in every country in the world.We don't have an exceptionally bad amount in Ireland to warrant what delancy mentions.
The anti racist brigade are outnumbering the racists in Ireland,

But as someone else mentioned, there is a research paper on the taxi drivers' situation to say otherwise.

I wouldn't say that Ireland is the worst country for racism by any means, but I'm also not so foolhardy to believe that because I don't see much of it, it's not out there.

tommyhaas · 31-12-2010 02:05PM

Millicent wrote: »

Really? You're seriously convinced that there is no racism in Ireland at all and that it is somehow, miraculously, not prone to the same problems of prejudice and small-mindedness that is evident in any other country in the world? What makes Ireland so special that we're all so magnanimous?

What makes Ireland so special in that without different races, racism is not really going to be an issue

Its only really the last 10/15 years that immigrants have come to this country in significant numbers, and that many of the cities have become somewhat multi-cultural. As more immigrants have arrived, the issue of different races arised where it hadent before. Attitudes and prejudices take time to cultivate, and thats what I believe is happening now

The reason racism was not an issue here 20 yrs ago is because there was only one race here. Now that we are a multirace society, racism has become an issue

Adyx · 31-12-2010 02:09PM

drdeadlift wrote: »

There is a certain amount of racism in every country in the world.We don't have an exceptionally bad amount in Ireland to warrant what delancy mentions.
The anti racist brigade are outnumbering the racists in Ireland,

Regardless of the number of ineffectual interest groups, he said racism doesn't exist in this country which is obviously not true. I have witnessed countless acts of racism; from taxi drivers, random strangers, friends and yes, even other "foreigners". On occasion I've even had to step in because things were getting out of hand.

It may not be as bad as some countries, but it is a fact that racism does exist in this country.

Edit: Surely the bolded part is a good thing?

drdeadlift · 31-12-2010 02:23PM

Adyx wrote: »

Regardless of the number of ineffectual interest groups, he said racism doesn't exist in this country which is obviously not true. I have witnessed countless acts of racism; from taxi drivers, random strangers, friends and yes, even other "foreigners". On occasion I've even had to step in because things were getting out of hand.

It may not be as bad as some countries, but it is a fact that racism does exist in this country.

Edit: Surely the bolded part is a good thing?

Sounds like you witnessed an argument,people fight all the time.Racism is just wired into mankind there aint nothing we can do.For the record im not racist its just there isnt changing peoples view on it.

someday2010 · 31-12-2010 02:26PM

Im sick and tired of whingeing taxi drivers especially those who want a moratorium on the number of taxi drivers. Who the hell do they think they are? Tahts would be like the major supermarkets calling for a moratorium on the number of new shops that could open.

Essentially taxi drovering is an unskilled easy job that pretty much anybody can do so I don't see why they should really earn more than the minimum wage.

The solution that comes to mind is what every other business is doing in the recession - drop the price and offer significant discounts. If I went a taxi rank and there was a long queue and the car at the back had a 40% discount sign then Id hop into that car regardless of colour

Adyx · 31-12-2010 02:31PM

drdeadlift wrote: »

Sounds like you witnessed an argument,people fight all the time.Racism is just wired into mankind there aint nothing we can do.For the record im not racist its just there isnt changing peoples view on it.

I did not witness an argument. I witnessed a scumbag abuse several Chinese people who worked in an Abrakebabra, on a street for "taking his job" (doubt he'd ever worked a day in his life & apparently he was just upset because he was being sent to prison for thieving :rolleyes: ). I witnessed a man hurl abuse at a French guy studying here because he was black.

These are just samples by the way. Do they still sound like just arguments?

RichieC · 31-12-2010 02:33PM

delancey42 wrote: »

I have never seen /witnessed racism in any form in this country , I don't belive it exists - I believe it is a myth peddled by various groups to justify their continued existence and generous taxpayer funding :mad:

There are no Gays in Iran!

Hannibal · 31-12-2010 02:39PM

taxi drivers area annoyed in general that theyve to work 60 hours+ per week to get a decent wage, most taxi driver have had to pay for cars, meters etc plus €6500 for a plate since deregulation and prederegulation some paid upto €70000 that I know offor a plate alone. Some of the foreign drivers are somehow passing the test while clearly not knowing the general area and there's a suspicion that theyre passing with a lower pass rate. Also most of them recieving the €6500 off social welfare to pay for their plate and a further €10000 for starting up a small/medium business.
I know of a friend of mine who got into a taxi in the small hours to travel what would normally cost less than €10. She dozed off in the back of the taxi only to wake up to find herself in another part of Dublin with over €40 on the meter, this was with an African driver.
Racism works both ways lets not forget.

Conor Bourke · 31-12-2010 02:45PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

You do realise if you have a prefered route, the taxi driver is oblidged to take it, right?

Precisely. However, we were in the back, yapping away and the driver swung a left at the Huntsman when he should have gone straight on. I immediately asked him where he thought he was going, he began to get flustered and tried to bluff me. He didn't realise that I'd been living in Galway for a year and we were going to my brother's house, he though we were just blow-ins, down for race week and wouldn't notice if he brought us needlessly around Eyre Square, adding God knows how much to the end bill. I'll never forget his face, he was absolutely raging that he'd been caught out. We hopped out at the Sportsground and walked from there to Forster Court but we didn't care. Such greed annoys me so much!

drdeadlift · 31-12-2010 02:46PM

Adyx wrote: »

I did not witness an argument. I witnessed a scumbag abuse several Chinese people who worked in an Abrakebabra people on a street for "taking his job" (doubt he'd ever worked a day in his life & apparently he was just upset because he was being sent to prison for thieving :rolleyes: ). I witnessed a man hurl abuse at a French guy studying here because he was black.

These are just samples by the way. Do they still sound like just arguments?

Well i have witnessed this before,but look at the type of people spouting the ****e,do you think anyone really soaks up what they say?
But if it offends you do something about it.

drdeadlift · 31-12-2010 02:49PM

Dotsey wrote: »

taxi drivers area annoyed in general that theyve to work 60 hours+ per week to get a decent wage, most taxi driver have had to pay for cars, meters etc plus €6500 for a plate since deregulation and prederegulation some paid upto €70000 that I know offor a plate alone. Some of the foreign drivers are somehow passing the test while clearly not knowing the general area and there's a suspicion that theyre passing with a lower pass rate. Also most of them recieving the €6500 off social welfare to pay for their plate and a further €10000 for starting up a small/medium business.
I know of a friend of mine who got into a taxi in the small hours to travel what would normally cost less than €10. She dozed off in the back of the taxi only to wake up to find herself in another part of Dublin with over €40 on the meter, this was with an African driver.
Racism works both ways lets not forget.

I couldn't give a rats ass about their skin color the natives have been given a raw deal.Is there anywhere else in the world like Ireland?

31-12-2010 02:52PM

A lot of Irish taxi drivers are racists.

Hardly a shocker.

Hannibal · 31-12-2010 02:58PM

drdeadlift wrote: »

I couldn't give a rats ass about their skin color the natives have been given a raw deal.Is there anywhere else in the world like Ireland?

I dont think there is. Too many do-gooders in this country trying to appease everyone else rather than looking after whats on front of us first

gbee · 31-12-2010 02:59PM

RichieC wrote: »

I live in Ireland, I don't need a research paper to tell me how much racism there is knocking around, it's a fking disgrace.

No it's not. It's not a disgrace, we Irish are a very racist populous, and always were.

I am proud to be Irish and we succeeded in the USA largely for our views. We will succeed today by keeping our views and not allowing ourselves to become slaves to enforced opinions.

As for Taxiis, I used to pick and choose who and in what car I hired at a rank long before the multitude of immigrants arrived.

I stand by my right to choose!

drdeadlift · 31-12-2010 03:01PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

A lot of Irish taxi drivers are racists.

Hardly a shocker.

And really does anyone give a dam?

Is racism a disease contracted from a steering wheel i wonder

Jumpy · 31-12-2010 03:01PM

old_aussie wrote: »

Is that the same version of freedom (or your own special version), that also gives Mahatma coat the right to his opinion.

Everyone in Australia has the right to his own opinion, whether you like it or not!

We have already established you are not an Aussie.

Aussies dont say stuff like "sando".

Plus whitefellas like Mahatma are few and far between these days.

Nodin · 31-12-2010 03:05PM

digme wrote: »

nah they're afraid of their lives that they would get labelled a racist organisation, so they picked a racist, communist as they're hero,you couldn't make this stuff up,it's hilarious.

MLK a communist racist? Ye learn something new every day. Got anything to back that up?

delancey42 wrote:

have never seen /witnessed racism in any form in this country .

So the kind of posts that pop in threads around various Irish boards come from.....?

gbee wrote:

No it's not. It's not a disgrace, we Irish are a very racist populous, and always were.

I am proud to be Irish and we succeeded in the USA largely for our views.
.

'Well done Paddy, on keeping the gays out of your parade....'

gbee · 31-12-2010 03:09PM

Nodin wrote: »

'Well done Paddy, on keeping the gays out of your parade....'

Yes, we came up with a clever solution for that one, they have their own Gay Pride week. One massive cello and all if forgotten about for the rest of the year.

OH! And if it comes to a presidential vote, and David Norris runs, I'll vote for him, but not because he is gay.

Nodin · 31-12-2010 03:12PM

gbee wrote: »

Yes, we came up with a clever solution for that one, they have their own Gay Pride week. One massive cello and all if forgotten about for the rest of the year.

Yeah.

Haha.

You do realise that if America had followed similar advice to yours about "keeping our views" in regards to catholics generally and the Irish specifically, the community over there would still be in the ghetto...?

gbee · 31-12-2010 03:31PM

Nodin wrote: »

You do realise that if America had followed similar advice to yours about "keeping our views"

History shows we succeed against all the 'odds' we organised ourselves into gangs and took over NY and beat the bejeesus out of everyone.

We organised unions and showed mob bosses how to do business, one Al Capone was especially impressed.

HellFireClub · 31-12-2010 03:40PM

Back in the days when I could afford to get a taxi, the last thing I'd be concerned about would be the skin colour of the driver... It's a typically Irish trait to sit back and moan about your competitor, rather than try to up your game.

For many years, Irish taxi drivers didn't have to worry about competition in a closed market, they ran the show, and we all remember the 4 hour queues for a taxi at ranks in the City Centre before we had any foreign taxi drivers, so Paddy can go f*ck himself now is what I say.

Nodin · 31-12-2010 03:42PM

gbee wrote: »

History shows we succeed against all the 'odds' we organised ourselves into gangs and took over NY and beat the bejeesus out of everyone.

We organised unions and showed mob bosses how to do business, one Al Capone was especially impressed.

The Irish were present all over the east coast of the states, and none of that really responds to my point above now, does it.

whatsamsn · 31-12-2010 03:52PM

There will always be racism.
And its not just the 'irish' - racism can even be on the africans side too.

Death. Taxes. Racism.

31-12-2010 03:54PM

drdeadlift wrote: »

Is racism a disease contracted from a steering wheel i wonder

Yes it wheely is.

Micky Dolenz · 31-12-2010 04:08PM

Mahatma coat banned.

Bowlardo · 31-12-2010 04:35PM

Dotsey wrote: »

Also most of them recieving the €6500 off social welfare to pay for their plate and a further €10000 for starting up a small/medium business.
I.

Is this really true?

Dionysus · 31-12-2010 04:36PM

gbee wrote: »

we Irish are a very racist populous, and always were.

I am proud to be Irish and we succeeded in the USA largely for our views. We will succeed today by keeping our views and not allowing ourselves to become slaves to enforced opinions.

As for Taxiis, I used to pick and choose who and in what car I hired at a rank long before the multitude of immigrants arrived.

I stand by my right to choose!

And this from the same poster who was ranting and raving against Irish in a recent thread, fanatically demanding that the language be removed from every sign and street name in this state. "Irish" indeed.

twinQuins · 31-12-2010 04:49PM

gbee wrote: »

History shows we succeed against all the 'odds' we organised ourselves into gangs and took over NY and beat the bejeesus out of everyone.

Uh-huh? And if foreign nationals were to do just this? No doubt you'd be up in arms at "the cheek of them".

This kind of cognitive dissonance is simply mind-boggling.

Alleged Taxi Race Row

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