Alleged Taxi Race Row

RichieC · 31-12-2010 05:16AM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

well, you Presume to know everything about my attitude outlook and opinion from one post, so

sauce for the Goose....

You painted a Picasso, mate.

smokedeels · 31-12-2010 05:18AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

If you think every race is the same well that infact makes you an ignorant racist - Each race has strengths and weaknesses and maybe driving isnt one of the black races strengths!

That school of thought was largely dismissed post-WWII. It's frightening if you believe that stuff.

digme · 31-12-2010 05:18AM

RichieC wrote: »

You painted a Picasso, mate.

what's the taxi situation like in iraq?

J. Marston · 31-12-2010 05:19AM

"Dey tuk irr jiiiibs!"

digme · 31-12-2010 05:19AM

smokedeels wrote: »

That school of thought was largely dismissed post-WWII. It's frightening if you believe that stuff.

wrong

Mahatma coat · 31-12-2010 05:21AM

All are not Equal, anyone who trys to convince themselves that All people are equal and the same hasnt really spent much time inthe real world.
what this also leads to is the fact that a lot of the old national stereotypes are very true to form.

RichieC · 31-12-2010 05:23AM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

All are not Equal, anyone who trys to convince themselves that All people are equal and the same hasnt really spent much time inthe real world.
what this also leads to is the fact that a lot of the old national stereotypes are very true to form.

We might not all be the same, but unfortunately for the bigots we are all equal

Einhard · 31-12-2010 05:27AM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

However you seem to be still blinkered into believing this modern Multicultural sh!t and have convinced yourself that you are a 'Good Person' because you can rationalise your prejudices, Racism Swings both ways, the inclusion and exclusion of people or groups based on your Perceptions of them is Racist, you may say you hate White suprecemacists, thats still Racism against a subset of the White Race

yes because the vast majority of people Really want to be Just like you:rolleyes:

I don't believe in multi-culturalism. And I'm not racist. They're not mutually exclusive.

digme wrote: »

next time you use the phrase redneck try use it in a negative way as you basically called mahatma a legend who doesn't bow to kings or queens. ie someone with a backbone and morals.

I did use it in a negative way.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

All are not Equal, anyone who trys to convince themselves that All people are equal and the same hasnt really spent much time inthe real world.

Not all people are the same. But all people have the potential to achieve the same things. It's circumstances of birth and upbringing that determine a person's character, not the colour of their skin. Hence, you're a an embittered racist and Barack Obama is the most powerful man in the world!

what this also leads to is the fact that a lot of the old national stereotypes are very true to form.

Especially the Australian one unfortunately.

RichieC · 31-12-2010 05:29AM

Einhard wrote: »

Barack Obama is the most powerful man in the world!

just wanna make him read that again

OutlawPete · 31-12-2010 05:29AM

Einhard wrote: »

But it's not personal abuse.

It is and was.

Einhard wrote: »

It's a description of his character as witnessed through his post.

No, for instance: saying some has bigoted views and mornic views are far different than saying someone is a bigot and a moron.

Some people don't see the difference in the two, I am not one of those people.

That does not mean that the person is not a moron and/or a bigot mind you, just that I feel it far different to attack someone's views, than attacking the person themselves.

Einhard wrote: »

A negative comment on someone's character need not always be characterised as personal abuse.

Depends how it is phrased.

Calling someone: "ignorant, crass, hateful, spiteful, dyspeptic, ill-educated, moronic, small-minded, red-necked little man" is personal abuse as it does not address the point of view expressed.

Again, all of the above may very well be true and I understand someone making these comments based on the views expressed, but it is still attacking the poster and not the post.

digme · 31-12-2010 05:36AM

Einhard Martin Luther King is the tea party's hero , any idea why that is?

battries not included · 31-12-2010 05:37AM

Barack Obama is not black.

He is mixed race, his mother is white.

Nite

Mahatma coat · 31-12-2010 05:38AM

Barack Obama is in his Arse the Most Powerful man in the World
the JEWS who Control Obama, now they're powerful,, Obama's just a Dancing Golliwog Puppet Wheeled out to make the AMericans think they are an Inclusive society with the capacity to make 'Daring' choices.

RichieC · 31-12-2010 05:40AM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Barack Obama is in his Arse the Most Powerful man in the World
the JEWS who Control Obama, now they're powerful,, Obama's just a Dancing Golliwog Puppet Wheeled out to make the AMericans think they are an Inclusive society with the capacity to make 'Daring' choices.

Classic

RichieC · 31-12-2010 05:40AM

digme wrote: »

Einhard Martin Luther King is the tea party's hero , any idea why that is?

Because they found out on wikipedia that he was infact a Republican?

Einhard · 31-12-2010 05:41AM

OutlawPete wrote: »

It is and was.

No, for instance: saying some has bigoted views and mornic views are far different than saying someone is a bigot and a moron.

Ummm, not to me. A person is defined by his character. Character is generally defined by views, opinions, and outlook on life. If said views and opinions are ill-informed, moronic and spiteful, then so is the character, and so is the person.

Some people don't see the difference in the two, I am not one of those people.

Well that's because you're only a ....:D

That does not mean that the person is not a moron and/or a bigot mind you, just that I feel it far different to attack someone's views, than attacking the person themselves.

I wasn't attacking anyone! I was offering a description of his character, a description which you don't seem to disagree with. Would you object if I said that Hitler was an anti-semitic, ignorant little man? Or that Fred Phelps was a fundamentalist, hateful lunatic? I really don't see your issue with this. I'm not trying to shut Mahatma up; I'm not attacking him; I'm describing him as he revealed himself in his posts.

Calling someone: "ignorant, crass, hateful, spiteful, dyspeptic, ill-educated, moronic, small-minded, red-necked little man" is personal abuse as it does not address the point of view expressed.

But it describes not only his POV, but his character. Again, description, not an attack.

Again, all of the above may very well be true and I understand someone making these comments based on the views expressed, but it is still attacking the poster and not the post.

It was neither an attack on the person or his comments, but a description of both. I'm sorry, but I find it strange that people should refrain from stating what they find to be negative aspects of others for fear of it being defined as a personal attack.

Einhard · 31-12-2010 05:44AM

digme wrote: »

Einhard Martin Luther King is the tea party's hero , any idea why that is?

Ummm, no he's not the Tea Party's hero. The Tea Party is a fairly disparate group, and he may be revered by some of them, but certainly not all.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Barack Obama is in his Arse the Most Powerful man in the World
the JEWS who Control Obama, now they're powerful,, Obama's just a Dancing Golliwog Puppet Wheeled out to make the AMericans think they are an Inclusive society with the capacity to make 'Daring' choices.

Well, looks like my initial comments have been confounded...

Oranage2 · 31-12-2010 05:44AM

So has anyone bothered reading the original post?

battries not included · 31-12-2010 05:44AM

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Barack Obama is in his Arse the Most Powerful man in the World
the JEWS who Control Obama, now they're powerful,, Obama's just a Dancing Golliwog Puppet Wheeled out to make the AMericans think they are an Inclusive society with the capacity to make 'Daring' choices.

enjoy your holiday

digme · 31-12-2010 05:45AM

RichieC wrote: »

Because they found out on wikipedia that he was infact a Republican?

nah they're afraid of their lives that they would get labelled a racist organisation, so they picked a racist, communist as they're hero,you couldn't make this stuff up,it's hilarious.

RichieC · 31-12-2010 05:46AM

digme wrote: »

nah they're afraid of their lives that they would get labelled a racist organisation, so they picked a racist, communist as they're hero,you couldn't make this stuff up,it's hilarious.

Sounds made up, I prefer my excuse, because he was a republican. besides, Glenn beck pimped some of his sound bites, all the baggers listen to his madness.

digme · 31-12-2010 05:46AM

Einhard wrote: »

Ummm, no he's not the Tea Party's hero. The Tea Party is a fairly disparate group, and he may be revered by some of them, but certainly not all.

Well, looks like my initial comments have been confounded...

well that's what they need the media to believe.

digme · 31-12-2010 05:48AM

RichieC wrote: »

Sounds made up, I prefer my excuse, because he was a republican. besides, Glenn beck pimped some of his sound bites, all the baggers listen to his madness.

glenn becks is on some serious drugs.

RichieC · 31-12-2010 05:49AM

digme wrote: »

glenn becks is on some serious drugs.

He's off the crack and gargles now, on the mormonism..or something, never took it meself

barney4001 · 31-12-2010 05:49AM

ARE THE ALCOHOLICS STILL ROLLING ON GALWAYS STREETS

digme · 31-12-2010 05:50AM

haha ,

Einhard · 31-12-2010 05:54AM

digme wrote: »

well that's what they need the media to believe.

Thank God we have the likes of you and Mahatma here to keep us informed of what's really happening though...

digme · 31-12-2010 06:04AM

Einhard wrote: »

Thank God we have the likes of you and Mahatma here to keep us informed of what's really happening though...

beats talking to uneducated people who slot into a nice little box of fear.

Mahatma coat · 31-12-2010 06:09AM

Einhard wrote: »

Thank God we have the likes of you and Mahatma here to keep us informed of what's really happening though...

theres another group I have an unending supply of contempt for

The Religious,

Keep your Beliefs in Sky Fairys to yourself thanks, they have no place in Rational debate

OutlawPete · 31-12-2010 06:14AM

Einhard wrote: »

Ummm, not to me. A person is defined by his character. Character is generally defined by views, opinions, and outlook on life. If said views and opinions are ill-informed, moronic and spiteful, then so is the character, and so is the person.

None of the above contradicts what I am saying.

Of course a person can SOMETIMES be defined by their character, but on Boards.ie (thankfully) the rules here give users the benefit of the doubt that they are not defined by every single view they express and so we have the stance of attacking the post and not the user.

Einhard wrote: »

I wasn't attacking anyone!

Whether you like it or not, you did.

Einhard wrote: »

.. a description which you don't seem to disagree with.

Please pay very close attention to my posts:

OutlawPete wrote: »

You should have a better argument against such bitter hateful comments, than to resort to personal abuse.

Otherwise, you just become as bad as that which you are complaining about.

OutlawPete wrote: »

That does not mean that the person is not a moron and/or a bigot mind you, just that I feel it far different to attack someone's views, than attacking the person themselves.

Again, all of the above may very well be true and I understand someone making these comments based on the views expressed.

Does that sound like I disagree with your description?

OutlawPete wrote: »

Would you object if I said that Hitler was an anti-semitic, ignorant little man?

Hitler was a mass murderer and there can be no disputing that. As far as I know - the user you abused is not.

OutlawPete wrote: »

I really don't see your issue with this.

I just don't see the point in name calling when someone's views are better attacked.

OutlawPete wrote: »

Again, description, not an attack.

Yours was, this ..

".. ignorant, crass, hateful, spiteful, dyspeptic, ill-educated, moronic, small-minded, red-necked little man!!"

.. is all personal abuse.

His comments were crass, hateful, spiteful, ill-educated, small minded and moronic - but to suggest that these words are WHAT he is, is personal abuse.

OutlawPete wrote: »

It was neither an attack on the person or his comments, but a description of both.

Oh please, you called him a "Red-necked little man"

OutlawPete wrote: »

He's comments are racist, without question but he doesn't deny that.

Exactly and how could he.

OutlawPete wrote: »

I'm sorry, but I find it strange that people should refrain from stating what they find to be negative aspects of others for fear of it being defined as a personal attack.

Attack the post, not the poster.

If you think your way is better, go and have a browse around YouTube and see if you find any healthy debates.

Alleged Taxi Race Row

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