I told children that there was no such thing as Santa.

Jimmy Garlic · 27-12-2010 05:42AM #1

Basically I told my sisters children that santa didn't exist and the red and white Santa character was created by coca cola marketers in the early 1930s. I never lied to my 3 children, if they ask me a question I will answer it truthfully, I never led them to believe that santa existed.. We constantly tell our children not to lie, if you lead your children to believe that santa exists then you are a liar and a hypocrite.

Local-womanizer · 27-12-2010 05:52AM

I agree,thats what happened Hitler.He believed in Santa till the day he shot himself.

Patri · 27-12-2010 05:56AM

Does your sister know this? Pretty scab on the children like! kinda ruins christmas in their eyes! Being a hypocrite is one thing but being a dick is another!

AlmightyCushion · 27-12-2010 05:56AM

Looks like you lied to your kids. Coca cola had nothing to do with santa being red.

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/santa/cocacola.asp

Who cares if telling kids santa is real is technically lying. Personally, I feel sorry for your kids and your sisters kids for having the magic of santa being robbed from them at such an early age. I remember one of my nieces years ago went to see santa. She was so excited and went absolutely bat shít crazy over it. Sure it's all a lie but it's not hurting anyone and it keeps them happy so who gives a rats ass.

mikemac · 27-12-2010 05:59AM

I'd say your sister and her children won't be visiting you any time soon

starbelgrade · 27-12-2010 06:02AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

if you lead your children to believe that santa exists then you are a liar and a hypocrite.

And if you don't, then you are evil.

I'd rather be a liar & a hypocrite any day. After all, we're all liars & hypocrites.

And prison is reserved for the evil.

smiley girl · 27-12-2010 06:15AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Basically I told my sisters children that santa didn't exist and the red and white Santa character was created by coca cola marketers in the early 1930s. I never lied to my 3 children, if they ask me a question I will answer it truthfully, I never led them to believe that santa existed.. We constantly tell our children not to lie, if you lead your children to believe that santa exists then you are a liar and a hypocrite.

Liar and a hyprocrite..... you are cruel. Those children believed in exactly what you were allowed to believe in. It's a sad day when an 'adult' ruins chrisrtmas for an innocent child. There is a huge difference between lying and the magic of santa.

DonJose · 27-12-2010 06:20AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I never lied to my 3 children, if they ask me a question I will answer it truthfully.

"Daddy, why are you such a prick?"

Opens bag of popcorn

bonerm · 27-12-2010 06:26AM

Local-womanizer wrote: »

I agree,thats what happened Hitler.He believed in Santa till the day he shot himself.

Of course in Germany he's known as jährlicher Geschenkmann.

Kepti · 27-12-2010 06:36AM

You're free to tell your own children about the boring reality of Christmas, but I think it crosses a line to tell it to your sisters children. It's alright to lie to children and even adults sometimes. I'd be amazed to hear that you have never lied in any form.

You had a choice to make between letting some children enjoy Christmas, and making a moral stand by exposing the lie and then posting about it on the internet. I can't tell if you're expecting respect or just a reaction. Way to go.

Jimmy Garlic · 27-12-2010 06:43AM

They would have found out that it was a lie eventually anyway, I did them a favour. My own children are a lot more mature for their age and balanced, they don't expect to receive things from make believe characters that don't exist, no santa, no easter bunny no tooth fairy..just the truth. My daughter who is 6 recently got in trouble at school for telling her peers that santa didn't exist, the next day i went to have a few words with her teacher. I asked her if she encouraged lying, if she had a problem with the truth and if she had double standards, she was completely stumped, the look of shock on her face was priceless.. not a peep out of her since.

Degag · 27-12-2010 06:46AM

Despicable really. You can tell your own kids what you want (even if idon't agree with it) but it crosses the line when you tell other parents kids things. It's not up to you to make those decisions.

Maldjd23 · 27-12-2010 06:47AM

This has to be a wind up..No Person could be so cruel or so selfish...If it is true i feel sorry for the Op as opposed to the kids..They will get over the fact their Aunt ruined their childhood...The fact is her life is so empty, deprived of love and humanity she will never recover..She is to be pitied really...Very sad..

Degag · 27-12-2010 06:47AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

not a peep out of her since.

And it's not because she agrees or respects your opinion.....trust me.

xoxyx · 27-12-2010 06:48AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

... the next day i went to have a few words with her teacher. I asked her if she encouraged lying, if she had a problem with the truth and if she had double standards, she was completely stumped, the look of shock on her face was priceless.. not a peep out of her since.

I'm sure you dumbfounded her. Like teachers don't come across this kind of behaviour every year. You're not unique in your stance - I can tell you that.

There's a difference between lies meant to harm people, and white lies meant to spare somebody's feelings. It's all in the intent, and your intent seems to be pretty cruel, self rightous and stubborn.

CDfm · 27-12-2010 06:48AM

You should at least get your history eight.

The Vikings had a Santa tradition "Old Man Winter" who was the God Odin.

It is also used by parents to teach children morality.

I reckon you have some sort of an ant-globalisation paranoia.

mikemac · 27-12-2010 06:50AM

Maldjd23 wrote: »

They will get over the fact their Aunt ruined their childhood.

I'd say it's Uncle Jimmy,

The OP is a busybody, it's one thing to raise your own children but another to go interfering with other people's children, even if they are family

And in school we learned the story of St Nicholas, patron saint of travellers. Moral of the story being to help people in need, with the snow this week not a bad moral to teach people

Maldjd23 · 27-12-2010 06:54AM

Hang on..I have just figured it out...You are simply a miserable person...You don't want to spend money on presents...Bah Humbug!!!Merry Christmas my arse i pray god its your last!!!

yankinlk · 27-12-2010 06:56AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

My daughter who is 6 recently got in trouble at school for telling her peers that santa didn't exist, the next day i went to have a few words with her teacher. I asked her if she encouraged lying, if she had a problem with the truth and if she had double standards, she was completely stumped, the look of shock on her face was priceless.. not a peep out of her since.

I would hazard a guess that this reaction is like a high from a drug too you. You are constantly searching for scenarios where you can "get a hit" in life. I would bet your mere appearance (in schools, work, canteen, local shop, church, the video store) actually clears a path.

Jimmy Garlic · 27-12-2010 06:57AM

Maldjd23 wrote: »

This has to be a wind up..No Person could be so cruel or so selfish...If it is true i feel sorry for the Op as opposed to the kids..They will get over the fact their Aunt ruined their childhood...The fact is her life is so empty, deprived of love and humanity she will never recover..She is to be pitied really...Very sad..

I am completely serious. I do not think it is selfish to tell children the truth.
I think it is more damaging to fill a childs mind with nonsense.

xoxyx · 27-12-2010 06:59AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I am completely serious. I do not think it is selfish to tell children the truth.
I think it is more damaging to fill a childs mind with nonsense.

No little Annie, put down that fairy story. Now come sit with me and I'll take you a tale of how Ireland got bailed out of its financial crisis... Or did it??

Degag · 27-12-2010 06:59AM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I am completely serious. I do not think it is selfish to tell children the truth.
I think it is more damaging to fill a childs mind with nonsense.

Ehhh, there are billions of children around the world who grew up with Santa and the Tooth Fairy etc. Are we all "damaged?"

Degag · 27-12-2010 07:04AM

BTW, does your missus agree with all this nonsense?

Jimmy Garlic · 27-12-2010 07:12AM

Degag wrote: »

BTW, does your missus agree with all this nonsense?

It is not nonsense but yes, we have a very similar way of thinking.

greenprincess · 27-12-2010 07:22AM

I think thats horrible, stealing wonderful memories from your childern.

And its actually quite sad even worrying to have a very mature 6 year old, childern need to have imagination, maturity is for when your old!

Also you have no right to tell you sisters kids there is no santa, that really isnt your place.

Bus77II · 27-12-2010 07:24AM

Ah I don't think it's the end of the world. But the Santa thing isnt just a truth or non-truth. Kids are more than willing to make up their own little worlds and characters ''We are all pirates!'' .ect
I think you should take it easy and maybe apologise to your sister if she's put-out.

raah! · 27-12-2010 07:32AM

What a self righteous and self satisfied fellow you are.

Kepti · 27-12-2010 07:35AM

Maldjd23 wrote: »

Hang on..I have just figured it out...You are simply a miserable person...You don't want to spend money on presents...Bah Humbug!!!Merry Christmas my arse i pray god its your last!!!

If you're praying for the death of others, chances are you don't have as much figured out as you think.

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I am completely serious. I do not think it is selfish to tell children the truth.
I think it is more damaging to fill a childs mind with nonsense.

Have a little faith in the abilities of your children. One lie about santa isn't liable to fill their minds.

How has your sister reacted?

we'llallhavetea_old · 27-12-2010 08:03AM

pfft, if you said that to my child she'd laugh at you, those kids want to believe in santy and any hogwash you come out with won't deter them. besides, their parents will tell them not to mind their uncle, he's full of sh!t and a miserable ould cnut.

Maldjd23 · 27-12-2010 08:14AM

feelingstressed wrote: »

I'd say it's Uncle Jimmy, not sure why you think the OP is an aunt

The OP is a busybody, it's one thing to raise your own children but another to go interfering with other people's children, even if they are family

And in school we learned the story of St Nicholas, patron saint of travellers. Moral of the story being to help people in need, with the snow this week not a bad moral to teach people

Not sure the name Jimmy Garlic confirms it's a he??..(that said i have had a few beers so forgive me if i am wrong, just like i will forgive you for focusing on a mute point)....Am pretty sure a person can choose their username as they wish...Does not matter if they choose Jimmy or Julie now really thou does it??...Their opinion remains the same...I think we agree on the Op's actions...Have to admit i don't remember that tale about St.Nick...To me he was Santa...Nothing more and nothing less...I also remember being thought as a kid you help people in need no matter the season...I don't need a guy in a red hat(or whatever colour the OP likes) to tell me that...

mikemac · 27-12-2010 08:18AM

Maldjd23 wrote: »

(that said i have had a few beers so forgive me if i am wrong, just like i will forgive you for focusing on a mute point)

You certainly have, your post reads like a James Joyce novel

But I'd agree with your point, I see Jimmy and made an assumption, I realy shouldn't make an assumption

I told children that there was no such thing as Santa.

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