Nuclear War... Could humans ultimately survive?

Manic Moran · 23-12-2010 11:35PM

Strangelove: I would not rule out the chance to preserve a nucleus of human specimens. It would be quite easy...heh, heh... at the bottom of ah...some of our deeper mineshafts. Radioactivity would never penetrate a mine some thousands of feet deep, and in a matter of weeks, sufficient improvements in drilling space could easily be provided.
President: How long would you have to stay down there?
Strangelove: ...I would think that uh, possibly uh...one hundred years...It would not be difficult Mein Fuehrer! Nuclear reactors could, heh...I'm sorry, Mr. President. Nuclear reactors could provide power almost indefinitely. Greenhouses could maintain plant life. Animals could be bred and slaughtered. A quick survey would have to be made of all the available mine sites in the country, but I would guess that dwelling space for several hundred thousands of our people could easily be provided.
President: Well, I, I would hate to have to decide...who stays up and...who goes down.
Strangelove: Well, that would not be necessary, Mr. President. It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross-section of necessary skills. Of course, it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition.
Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. Ha, ha. But ah, with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present Gross National Product within say, twenty years.
President:Wouldn't this nucleus of survivors be so grief-stricken and anguished that they'd, well, envy the dead and not want to go on living? Strangelove:When they go down into the mine, everyone would still be alive. There would be no shocking memories, and the prevailing emotion will be one of nostalgia for those left behind, combined with a spirit of bold curiosity for the adventure ahead! Ahhh!
Turgidson: Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?
Strangelove: Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious...service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.
Russian Ambassador: I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.

So there's the plan.

NTM

bobblepuzzle · 23-12-2010 11:58PM

I would imagine Shannon could be a target for a nuke... Dublin, I doubt it, no military or strategic function in attacking Ireland

Dudess · 23-12-2010 11:58PM

Nolanger wrote: »

This one from the 1960s is better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58NmAzQzRjk

Much of Threads is just copied from that. If things did turn out the way they do in Threads though, I'd rather not survive. The conclusion (and a huge amount of scientific research was done for that film) is that humanity would forge ahead - just about, and massively diminished - but it would be horrific.

Terrifying film. The scariest part for me is the feral children 10 years on...

bobblepuzzle · 24-12-2010 12:01AM

Dudess wrote: »

Much of Threads is just copied from that. If things did turn out the way they do in Threads though, I'd rather not survive. The conclusion (and a huge amount of scientific research was done for that film) is that humanity would forge ahead - just about, and massively diminished - but it would be horrific.

Terrifying film. The scariest part for me is the feral children 10 years on...

Threads is one thing, but I think society would be a lot more vicious then what is portrayed, especially about food

Killer Pigeon · 24-12-2010 12:04AM

Lol,

... a thread about threads.

Dudess · 24-12-2010 12:06AM

Yeah, The Day After is the American precursor to Threads, it's not as scary, but it's still terrifying - if anything it has a bleaker outlook overall, and in the closing credits it says something like "The events portrayed in this film are only the tip of the iceberg of what would really happen".

Killer Pigeon · 24-12-2010 01:08AM

It's about time we had a large scale war. A nuclear war is the only way the global population can be decreased. Natural resources are being strained. It'll do the Earth the world of good if about 2-3 billion people died.

krudler · 24-12-2010 01:12AM

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

I would imagine Shannon could be a target for a nuke... Dublin, I doubt it, no military or strategic function in attacking Ireland

Dropping a nuke on Shannon might brighten the place up a bit, ever been there? it looks like something from Cold War

stateofflux · 24-12-2010 01:16AM

theres a guy my da used to know that built a nuclear bomb shelter under his house in the wicklow countryside... i only saw it when it was getting built when i was a kid....i vaguely remember him boasting about the wall thickness & reinforced steel.....

Dudess · 24-12-2010 01:22AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

It's about time we had a large scale war. A nuclear war is the only way the global population can be decreased. Natural resources are being strained. It'll do the Earth the world of good if about 2-3 billion people died.

The radiation sickness/cancer/blindness/lack of medical facilities, clean water, food would be a bit of a bitch for the survivors though...

anothernight · 24-12-2010 01:44AM

Dudess wrote: »

The radiation sickness/cancer/blindness/lack of medical facilities, clean water, food would be a bit of a bitch for the survivors though...

Not to mention the fact that natural resources would be under even more strain than they currently are.

Killer Pigeon · 24-12-2010 01:56AM

Dudess wrote: »

The radiation sickness/cancer/blindness/lack of medical facilities, clean water, food would be a bit of a bitch for the survivors though...

Damn, we'll just have to use conventional mass murder.

*sad face*

cianl1 · 24-12-2010 02:03AM

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

Nuclear War... Could humans ultimately survive?

Yes...

But only if we leave right now!

Bjorn Bored. · 24-12-2010 02:15AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

It's about time we had a large scale war. A nuclear war is the only way the global population can be decreased. Natural resources are being strained. It'll do the Earth the world of good if about 2-3 billion people died.

oh well i dont know about that now, how about an asteroid or a super volcano like that one in yellowstone,or how about a mega tsunami or even an earth crust displacement,not forgetting a good old fashioned solar flare which could wipe out all out electricity and communications for years thus rendering us useless,you see all in all nature has a lot more ways of destroying us than mankind has.

TeddyTedson · 24-12-2010 02:15AM

I doubt everyone would die. The population is nearly at 7 Billin though so we could do with killing off a few. Somewhere big and random should be wiped out like....Africa!

CorkMan · 24-12-2010 02:20AM

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

I would imagine Shannon could be a target for a nuke... Dublin, I doubt it, no military or strategic function in attacking Ireland

London would be bombed the f**k out, if not other parts of Britain. I imagine the remnants of that would be over the skies of Ireland in no time.

Sure remember Chernobyl, that spread all over Europe. I think we would be hit big time if the UK was nuked.

Mr Benevolent · 24-12-2010 02:36AM

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

I would imagine Shannon could be a target for a nuke...

Nope, but Bantry Bay was. The only nuclear target in Ireland.

Riamfada · 24-12-2010 02:41AM

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

Threads is one thing, but I think society would be a lot more vicious then what is portrayed, especially about food

Id kill you all for a ceaser salad right now.

Riamfada · 24-12-2010 02:49AM

Also the film "The Road" was shit

rossie1977 · 24-12-2010 02:57AM

a nuclear war wouldn't come close to wiping out all the people on the planet

now a asteriod only a mile or two wide (hitting the earth with the same force as millions of nukes) probably would wipe out all human life

helimachoptor · 24-12-2010 03:01AM

You can't fire an ICBM at a plane

CorkMan · 24-12-2010 03:03AM

Also, if I survived and the world was rampant with zombies, I have SWATs phone number so I could give Chris Redfield and the rest a call.

I know them, we play pool every Friday night and smoke Cuban cigars. Every saturday night I melt the box of Claire Redfield.

helimachoptor · 24-12-2010 03:03AM

Confab wrote: »

Nope, but Bantry Bay was. The only nuclear target in Ireland.

Explain please

Killer Pigeon · 24-12-2010 03:20AM

Bjorn Bored. wrote: »

oh well i dont know about that now, how about an asteroid or a super volcano like that one in yellowstone,or how about a mega tsunami or even an earth crust displacement,not forgetting a good old fashioned solar flare which could wipe out all out electricity and communications for years thus rendering us useless,you see all in all nature has a lot more ways of destroying us than mankind has.

Yeah, but we can't say for sure if and when those things you mention are going to happen. If the world is in a dire need to reduce the global population in the next week, then the nuclear option is the only opinion that can guarantee a reduction.

david75 · 24-12-2010 04:07AM

radiation would get into all water and food supplies so even if you survived the blast youre gonna have an effin rough time of it lasting very much longer, and the road may have been ****(i liked it) its a pretty spot on representation of the roaming gangs and barbarism youd see come into play as the norm, probably all over the world.

Oh and Ireland would be hit if a nuke war were to start. If the yanks get hit, *everyones* getting hit..Mutually Assured Destruction kids...look it up.

GavRedKing · 24-12-2010 10:01AM

CorkMan wrote: »

Also, if I survived and the world was rampant with zombies, I have SWATs phone number so I could give Chris Redfield and the rest a call.

I know them, we play pool every Friday night and smoke Cuban cigars. Every saturday night I melt the box of Claire Redfield.

Fail, its S.T.A.R.S

Son Of A Vidic · 24-12-2010 11:05AM

Nothing like a good seasonal uplifting thread, at this time of year.

Generalissimo · 24-12-2010 11:50AM

helimachoptor wrote: »

Explain please

Bantry Bay = Whiddy Island oil terminal = Ireland's strategic oil reserve

baalthor · 24-12-2010 12:46PM

helimachoptor wrote: »

You can't fire an ICBM at a plane

They were nuclear armed SAMs.

Coriolanus · 24-12-2010 01:42PM

Jumpy wrote: »

I think you mean the crust, and it regularly cracks itself.

It would be the equivalent of poking an elephant with a lit match.

do that to an elephant and it'll kick you in the head then wall over you a few times before taking a dump on your head for good measure.

Nuclear War... Could humans ultimately survive?

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