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Most developers have now transferred their assets to spouses

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    All perfectly legal. All tax free. Nothing NAMA can do about it but try to persuade them to reverse the transfers. Watch primetime on rte1 now. Merry Christmas everyone.

    Just watching this now. Well done to RTÉ's Prime Time. It's truly stomach-turning. Public consciousness of what is happening must be awakened.


    Gerry Gannon, Séamus Ross, Michael McNamara have so far been listed. Why Gannon, for instance, needs all those big houses is obscene - how many houses can the guy live in at the one time? This ostentation is actually very, very, very nouveau riche. :o

    Meanwhile, poor people continue to live in ordinary homes while the greatest parasites in Irish history since the Cromwellian conquest live it up and remain, by virtue of the fortunes transferred to their wives, multimillionaires. You don't have to be an idealist to see that something is fundamentally wrong about our society with this state of affairs.

    Immoral, but all perfectly legal as you say. What great legislators we have in the Oireachtas. And before Fine Gael and Labour get all high and mighty, did they ever attempt to propose bills to close off these loopholes? Any member of the Oireachtas could have made such a proposal. The entire political class all stand indicted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    I don't see why Lenihan can't introduce a law that all assets that are owned or transferred within the last 3 years can be seized by NAMA.
    they don't call him lend a hand for nothing, wink wink


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭vintac34


    Same old story,all we ever get is the law,no such thing as justice in this corrupt state!!!
    Lawyers protecting their pals.. Remember Sean Fitz.having coffee or whatever with the barristers in the Four courts...
    They will get away with it...Bloddy shower of scumbags,may they rot in hell for the hurt and misery they have inflicted on innocent people now and in the future.



















    b


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    I don't see why Lenihan can't introduce a law that all assets that are owned or transferred within the last 3 years can be seized by NAMA.

    since these assets were built on a loan, and these people did not honour the loan, means the assets belong to the bank, and can be taken back by same no matter what name they are in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭James2693


    Should be done for treason and hung


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    What law is that ? and by who/why ?

    ..the one that said the womans property automatically becomes that of the husband, by patriarchal societies all over, because it was a mans world...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    vintac34 wrote: »
    Same old story,all we ever get is the law,no such thing as justice in this corrupt state!!!
    Lawyers protecting their pals.. Remember Sean Fitz.having coffee or whatever with the barristers in the Four courts...
    They will get away with it...Bloddy shower of scumbags,may they rot in hell for the hurt and misery they have inflicted on innocent people now and in the future.



















    b

    If people keep repeating this mantra then they will..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Looks like one developer, or his wife that is, owns most of Howth.

    Oh that would be Gerry Gannon again, and his wonderfully cooperative wife, Margaret Gannon. The Irish taxpayer is covering his €1billion debt while he still owns, through his spouse, all these properties.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Ali Babba


    The only money that will ever be seen back out of all this will end up in the pockets of the legal profession as it will be fought by the developers in the courts. Lenihan has been stalling and stalling on this as it's a bail out system for his Fianna Fail cronies, pure and simple. Anyone who can't see this is in denial. The taxpayer in this country will be footing all the bills for this in at least thirty years time i'm sorry to say.

    NAMA should never have been invented, probably the biggest mistake any government has made in the history of the state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    why are we taking this? I am having a stroke here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    I am having a stroke here

    Pervert


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    well not advocatng it but like with bertie ahern if I saw these developers crossing the road in front of me I weouldnt brake. And if people think it doesnt solve anything Bullsh1t. there would already be in a better posistion to move forward


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Pervert

    Not that kind of a stroke. Im having some sort of a panic attack - the chest pains.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Not that kind of a stroke. Im having some sort of a panic attack - the chest pains.

    Too much stroking has that affect on some people.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    We really do need war


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭AnnyHallsal


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    We really do need war

    We need a time machine. And a team of assassins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭sollar


    Did you see bertie and johnny ronan's warm old friends embrace!!

    Also a handful of them owe 17 billion, its just madness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭tommyboy2222


    People are finally awakening from their X-factor induced stupor.

    This has been going on for the last two years since Nama was set up.

    Can't wait for the next bout of anger when people get their January pay packets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Pearse Doherty is on The Frontline talking about the Prime Time programme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    It's kinda funny :rolleyes: when you realise that the developers had a few months warning from the Government to protect themselves from losing their assets.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    We really do need war

    We can't afford one:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Its ok. Primetime are showing us all where they live. Google earth FTW. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

    Yeah, except how do we know which one of his 49 homes Gerry Gannon and his wife, Margaret Gannon, will be living in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭AnnyHallsal


    galwayrush wrote: »
    We can't afford one:D

    Isn't war good for the economy though? Maybe we do need war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Isn't war good for the economy though? Maybe we do need war.
    It's good for the country lending the money after the war.;)

    Hang on, wonder if any bank will finance an ammo factory?:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    Does Al Qaeda have an email address? or a phone number? or a helpline?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Does Al Qaeda have an email address? or a phone number? or a helpline?

    Check Wikileaks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Forgeting about the corruption involved im sorry to say guys in no way is what has happened in the last few years capitalist. Those who took the risk payed sure, but only the poorest payed the richest didnt. Americans cant understand why not one of our bankers are in jail


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Does Al Qaeda have an email address? or a phone number? or a helpline?

    Already called them two weeks ago about it and it was a no. They had other plans to deal with at that time and said maybe laters! Useless bunch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    Note that every time it was mentioned about them being transferred to their spouses that prime time insisted it was in no way implying that this was illegal - all they are doing is covering their ass against being used as reason for prejudicing future cases.

    Am sure these people have the best legal people working for them - but fact is that it is illegal if you purposely transfer assets for the reasons of evading legal responsibilities and fraud. Now it will be up to NAMA to prove that this was the reason they did it - so it will come down to who has the better legal people working for them.

    For any asset transfer that is registered with land registry there is a doc that is signed to confirm you are not "knowingly" up to no good when transferring.

    No doubt we will be told tomorrow that prime time has exposed issues that NAMA was not aware of and that they would be interested in talking to RTE regarding the information they hold... and then we will hear nothing about it again.

    Its fcuking sickening that these people can get away with this - particularly that w****r from howth; he had enough stuff in those bags from BT to build another ****ing house in howth!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    im sorry to say guys in no way is what has happened in the last few years capitalist.

    Oh please. Now that capitalism has been shown to not be an amazing Celtic Tiger, capitalist ideologues are attempting to claim that capitalism has nothing to do with the current situation. Apparently only the successful economic stories are allowed to be truly capitalist! :rolleyes:


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