Student lies his way into Harvard

peckerhead · 19-12-2010 04:53PM

Iguana Bob wrote: »

just a question for yas. i have a deg in engineering but not once for any place iv worked in or done an interview for has asked for proof.
i could easily just lie and for the interview study everything the interviwer could ask me and get the job

If you usually write like this, your CV would be in the bin before the end of the first page.

x in the city · 19-12-2010 05:10PM

why do nobs on ah bitch about grammar

there is a forum for engrish thatta way >>>>

kelle · 19-12-2010 05:14PM

x in the city wrote: »

am i the only one in thinking this would be grade A film making...

*calls di caprio...

from link in post 1 wrote:

Wheeler's probation terms ............. ban him from profiting from his escapades.

El Horseboxo · 19-12-2010 05:32PM

I lied on my cv and my essay to get a grant for Northwestern. They obviously never checked up since i have my masters from them.

biko · 19-12-2010 05:35PM

That's a big suit to fill

Mark200 · 19-12-2010 05:40PM

Iguana Bob wrote: »

just a question for yas. i have a deg in engineering but not once for any place iv worked in or done an interview for has asked for proof.
i could easily just lie and for the interview study everything the interviwer could ask me and get the job

Usually companies asked for a signed transcript from your college/university with your grades or whatever.

themandan6611 · 19-12-2010 05:49PM

Did Breffney Morgan not go to Harvard - sorta puts things into perspective

KnifeWRENCH · 19-12-2010 05:57PM

As the Harvard Crimson newspaper identified, he created a resume that boasted the authorship of two books and co-authorship of four others, the delivery of lectures in Armenian studies and unblemished grades – all of it hogwash. He also won the $4,000 Hoopes Prize, $2,000 Sargent Prize and an $8,000 Rockefeller research grant, all through plagiarism.

Armenian studies? Really?

Fair enough if you're gonna fake a field of expertise......but why Armenian studies?

HavingCrack · 19-12-2010 07:10PM

Mark200 wrote: »

Usually companies asked for a signed transcript from your college/university with your grades or whatever.

According to my dad they don't. He's worked for lots of different businesses and he's said in around 20 interviews he's only ever been asked for evidence he attended college once :eek: and his references are only followed up around 50% of the time.

nyarlothothep · 19-12-2010 07:24PM

Gucky wrote: »

The fact that this kid, conned (very successfully) the top brass from one of the most exclusive academic facilities in the world, makes him smarter than them in my eyes.

Cute hooerism worship strikes again:rolleyes:

Riddle101 · 19-12-2010 08:15PM

If he was smart enough to bluff his way into Harvard then I say let him stay, he proberly deserves to be in it.

orourkeda · 20-12-2010 12:38AM

Gucky wrote: »

The fact that this kid, conned (very successfully) the top brass from one of the most exclusive academic facilities in the world, makes him smarter than them in my eyes.

A typically irish response.

Congratulating a stroker really does no one any favours.

orourkeda · 20-12-2010 12:40AM

Riddle101 wrote: »

If he was smart enough to bluff his way into Harvard then I say let him stay, he proberly deserves to be in it.

If he's so "smart" why not just do it by the book. This blag will simply deprive a genuine and more deserving candidate of their rightful and legitimate place that they have worked for and earned rather that stole.

orourkeda · 20-12-2010 12:42AM

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Cute hooerism worship strikes again:rolleyes:

Don't Irish people get what they deserve. The next time I hear people complain about political corruption or some other social ill that was perpetuated by inherent dishonesty I shall bear some of the attitudes in this thread in mind.

dubtom · 20-12-2010 02:22AM

phasers wrote: »

What were his grades like in Harvard? I'd have let him stay and finish his degree tbh

He was copying other peoples work,even if he had got his degree or whatever he was 'studying' for,he'd have graduated a loser and a cheat, useless to anyone.

Shanotheslayer · 20-12-2010 02:28AM

x in the city wrote: »

why do nobs on ah bitch about grammar

there is a forum for engrish thatta way >>>>

Look below..

Iguana Bob wrote: »

just a question for yas. i have a deg in engineering but not once for any place iv worked in or done an interview for has asked for proof.
i could easily just lie and for the interview study everything the interviwer could ask me and get the job

AlmightyCushion · 20-12-2010 02:32AM

KnifeWRENCH wrote: »

Armenian studies? Really?

Fair enough if you're gonna fake a field of expertise......but why Armenian studies?

It's actually perfect. If someone asked him about it he could feed them any old horseshít and they more than likely would not know if he was lying.

figarofigaro · 20-12-2010 02:37AM

I don't think what this fellow did is commendable.

steddyeddy · 20-12-2010 02:38AM

I know at least one person who now has a ba from trinity due to cheating in the exams.

Victor · 20-12-2010 02:40AM

Gucky wrote: »

The fact that this kid, conned (very successfully) the top brass from one of the most exclusive academic facilities in the world, makes him smarter than them in my eyes.

But he got caught.

Iguana Bob · 20-12-2010 02:42AM

peckerhead wrote: »

If you usually write like this, your CV would be in the bin before the end of the first page.

this is boards not an interview a$$hole

AlmightyCushion · 20-12-2010 02:43AM

Iguana Bob wrote: »

this is boards not an interview a$$hole

Banned for abuse.

JONJO THE MISER · 20-12-2010 05:51AM

In all honestly i always lie on my c.v to fit the job im going for, most of the jobs i worked in were outside Ireland, ive never been found out once.
I got a job as a manager of a hostel once, and i was a better manager than most who had done the job in the past i was told by the owner and now i have that reference to fall back on.

JONJO THE MISER · 20-12-2010 05:52AM

Iguana Bob wrote: »

this is boards not an interview a$$hole

Tar.Aldarion · 20-12-2010 06:19AM

after 10 years probation he can cash in?

i'd start writing a book now

Adyx · 20-12-2010 09:10AM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

after 10 years probation he can cash in?

i'd start writing a book now

He'll probably just copy someone else's.

papajimsmooth · 20-12-2010 09:25AM

I love stories like these, it shows how far you can go in the world with balls of steel

Greaney · 20-12-2010 09:31AM

Right, I've read through the whole thread and at first I was thinking 'At least Ireland have the points system'. No cheating there (pretty much). Then I gathered it was for a postgrad.... at that point I guess one could blag.

Ultimatley.. 'the truth will out'. One always get's busted eventually.

newmug · 20-12-2010 09:48AM

Gucky wrote: »

The fact that this kid, conned (very successfully) the top brass from one of the most exclusive academic facilities in the world, makes him smarter than them in my eyes.

So, by that logic, you'd rather have this conman performing cancer removal surgery on a loved one, rather than the truly qualified experts, because you think he's "smarter"?

Nancy Jolly Logjam wrote: »

I think you'll find many people would be capable of it but wouldn't be dishonest and pathetic enough to do it. He now owes Harvard over 45 grand and has been exposed as a cheat and fraud to the entire world, and he can't even write a book about it. Yeah, not very smart.

Nail, head, hammer. You should do jail for this kind of crap.

Ghandee · 20-12-2010 11:37AM

newmug wrote: »

So, by that logic, you'd rather have this conman performing cancer removal surgery on a loved one, rather than the truly qualified experts, because you think he's "smarter"?

Nail, head, hammer. You should do jail for this kind of crap.

Define smart?

The top brass in Harvard dish out degrees, based on your achievements.
This kid conned them, he beat the system they developed to ensure only the best got through.

All I'm trying to say is, if the guys who 'say' your smart, got caught with the pants down, if this kid outsmarted them, who actually is the smarter person?

Student lies his way into Harvard

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