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ENGLAND: Internet porn will be blocked to protect all children - Long Article

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  • #62
    D-Generate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    The guy who pays for the internet in my house has a tough decision to make, does he

    A) Leave the filter block all porn and deprive the rest of us of it
    or
    B) Request the filter be turned off but in doing so letting us all know that he is mad for the internet porn.

    Tough choices but I couldn't imagine living with a wife or girlfriend and having the guts to request that they allow porn on your connection.


  • #63
    iPlop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    D-Generate wrote: »
    The guy who pays for the internet in my house has a tough decision to make, does he

    A) Leave the filter block all porn and deprive the rest of us of it
    or
    B) Request the filter be turned off but in doing so letting us all know that he is mad for the internet porn.

    Tough choices but I couldn't imagine living with a wife or girlfriend and having the guts to request that they allow porn on your connection.


    The other thing is that the porn industry is worth billions.I really can't see this working ,sure they can't even stop paedos getting their hands on kiddie porn websites so how in the name of God are they gonna stop people getting around proxys to look at regular legal mainstream porn? Theres a back door to everything ,pardon the pun


  • #64
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,100 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    So, I assume they can block individual sites only for new sites to pop up and make the system completely ineffective, or they can block everything and only allow sites deemed to be safe.

    The second option worries me. Unless I'm understanding this completely wrongly.


  • #65
    aDeener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Dudess wrote: »
    Not saying I agree with this, but to be fair, porn - well hardcore anyway - isn't merely "sex".

    pfft speak for yourself, personally, i find there to be nothing more romantic than a group of men plugging all the holes


  • #66
    Scuid Mhór
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    i wonder if there'll be anymore student protests now that this has come to the light.


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  • #67
    af_thefragile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    aDeener wrote: »
    pfft speak for yourself, personally, i find there to be nothing more romantic than a group of men plugging all the holes

    you forgot the ending with gracefully depositing your man juice all over the face bit... Nothing portrays love as intimately as that tender act.


  • #68
    Elevator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭Elevator


    Dudess wrote: »
    Not saying I agree with this, but to be fair, porn - well hardcore anyway - isn't merely "sex".

    it is for some!!

    how bout somebody finding the missionary position a turn off

    are they perverted?

    there's worse things out there than a bit of hardcore

    I draw the line at skat sex myself


  • #69
    Krusader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    We'll have to resort back to using our imaginations now if we want to fap away


  • #70
    hsi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭hsi


    TheReverend wrote: »
    It is the parents job to supervise there children on the internet, it isnt ****ing hard to do.

    Your right, its the parents that don't give a s$$t that the measure is aimed at.

    But it will have little effect. Even in the 80's as teenagers porn was available.


  • #71
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The porn will have to be routed through Scotland, Wales and Norn Iron it seems....


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  • #72
    aDeener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Elevator wrote: »
    it is for some!!

    how bout somebody finding the missionary position a turn off

    are they perverted?

    there's worse things out there than a bit of hardcore

    I draw the line at skat sex myself

    you haven't lived until you have tried a hot lunch


  • #73
    iPlop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    aDeener wrote: »
    you haven't lived until you have tried a hot lunch


    Ugggghh!


    /puke


  • #74
    Marcus.Aurelius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    Since when has prohibition of any commodity been successful?

    Restrict booze and there's a surge in demand for black market supply. Restrict drugs and there are drug dealers in the streets. Restrict porn and it will appear someplace else.

    "Oh noes, won't someone pleeeeease think of the cheeldren?" always the rallying call of the true nanny.


  • #75
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    af_thefragile wrote: »
    I remember doing that one as well... Never realised one little '-' could make such a massive difference!!


    I do believe children shouldn't have access to porn. Its no way near as to what "sex" is and children do end up believing what they saw in the porno video is what sex is and how they should behave with their girlfriend etc. Its also very addictive and just like any other drug, it does destroy some people's lives. There's a book called "Pornified" which sort of deals with how porn now isn't like the Playboy of old days when it was almost an art form, which now has transformed into this grotesque thing that's skewing people's mind and attitude towards sex.

    Though I am wondering though if its only the porn sites that are gonna get blocked or is there gonna be more that's gonna get censored from the internet...
    Is this the first step towards the control and censorship of the internet?!

    Adults forget how impressionable 14/15 year olds are and yes, many teenagers do think that the sex in porn is real!

    C4 had a programme that went into a school in England and questioned 15/16 year olds on attitudes to sex. I remember them asking a few questions and it was shocking how porn videos have influenced young lads ideas. Many young girls seemed to be under pressure to perform like that and needed education on standing up for themselves.

    It's all very well saying leave it to the parents or sure they'll find a way around it anyway, doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything about it.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #76
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Whenever someone mentions the porn industry being worth what billion a year I always wonder exactly who these idiots are who paying for it. :S


  • #77
    af_thefragile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,161 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    amacachi wrote: »
    Whenever someone mentions the porn industry being worth what billion a year I always wonder exactly who these idiots are who paying for it. :S
    Exactly. Why pay for it when its free on the internet?
    Like its not like hollywood or something where you'ld buy the movie for the amazing plot or story line or special effects or something.


  • #78
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    af_thefragile wrote: »
    Exactly. Why pay for it when its free on the internet?
    Like its not like hollywood or something where you'ld buy the movie for the amazing plot or story line or special effects or something.
    Or where you'd bother watching the whole thing :o

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #79
    Fukuyama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    Let's say for a second that this does come into effect across the world within the next five years. Here's my prediction of what will happen

    1/1/2015: Internet porn is cut off at the source. Stupid idiots and people who tut tut at things will applaud at this decision

    2/1/2015: Porn users, predominantly male, being to have the itch and a clear black market beings to develop. Rather than taking on the ISPs via hacking and routing through proxy servers, the whole industry is driven underground.

    3/1/2015: File sharing, emails, .exe programs and other such methods rather than webpages begin to service the porn need.

    4/1/2015: This is actually more fun and exciting than just having porn on tap. It's exciting. Like finding a dirty mag when you were a kid.

    5/1/2015: These new methods become known by the 'tut tutters'. They try to suppress it further. But cant, because information on how to find these files is protected under the freedom of speech and information laws under the US constitution, the largest web-active country in the world. Like how bomb-making information isn't illegal there.

    6/1/2015: World continues to fap fap fap. Kids are smarter than ever and are quick to catch up on their fellow adult porn watching peeps.

    7/1/2015: The new world currency is put into circulation :rolleyes:


  • #80
    Iguana Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Iguana Bob


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Yeah, in those few days my net was down I raped a dozen women.
    did you try unplug your router for ten seconds then plug it back in.
    Could have save all thoes rapins


  • #81
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Ray Burkes Pension wrote: »
    You can already do this.
    http://www.opendns.com/solutions/household/parental/
    That's a simple to set up, free, opt in solution.

    Yes, but it would only work 100% if all websites were categorised. It's the right approach, but won't work until every single website is known and accurately categorised. ISP's could block all websites that don't carry a categorisation, or are found to have inaccurate categorisation.

    Note to self: Never piss off Biggins.


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  • #82
    ColmDawson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭ColmDawson


    This is poor journalism, and I'm not surprised as it's the Sunday Times.

    The suggestion to block pornography was made by one Conservative MP, Claire Perry. The Minister for Culture disagreed with her, saying "The internet is by and large a force for good, it is central to our lives and to our economy and Government has to be wary before it regulates and passes legislation".

    This is not a government plan.


  • #83
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ColmDawson wrote: »
    This is poor journalism, and I'm not surprised as it's the Sunday Times.

    The suggestion to block pornography was made by one Conservative MP, Claire Perry. The Minister for Culture disagreed with her, saying "The internet is by and large a force for good, it is central to our lives and to our economy and Government has to be wary before it regulates and passes legislation".

    This is not a government plan.

    I've found the Times to be one of very few that actually provides accurate details and names, besides sometimes further evidence to give credence to their topics mentioned.
    I can't see why you look on their article to lowly!

    As to "This is not a government plan" well all I can say is I have read the following:
    The Government is to combat the early sexualisation of children by blocking internet pornography unless parents request it.

    The move is intended to ensure that children are not exposed to sex as a routine by-product of the internet. It follows warnings about the hidden damage being done to children by sex sites.

    The biggest broadband providers, including BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk, are being called to a meeting next month by Ed Vaizey, the communications minister, and will be asked to change how pornography gets into homes....

    So if thats not a plan I don't know what is - and besides this already follows up upon previous actions of the British government just a few years ago...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4195332.stm

    So if their actions next month is not a government plan for the future, I need to look again in a dictionary for the meaning of the word "plan" and who also is leading it - its not the porn industry.


  • #84
    Amhran Nua
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Amhran Nua


    Biggins wrote: »
    No, its NOT a trolling attempt.
    Kop on. You know me better than that! You've read enough of my thousands of posts!

    Here is your god damn link.
    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Tech/article484582.ece

    Now if you bother your arse to pay for a subscription to the English Times, you can read it from there!

    ....Which is why I posted a FULL image of the site site for others to read here as secondary back-up/confirmation.
    I have explained this image posting situation now loads of times and if you had bothered your arse to read previous similar posts (which I'm VERY sure you have), you would have kopped this, the fcuk on instead of casting stupid totally unfounded aspersions!

    Without even having the ability to read the details direct from the site, did you even bother your arse to go the Times front page to see the stories headline/link!
    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk
    (This will change tomorrow so here is an image back-up for those that are newly reading this thread during the week: http://img510.imageshack.us/i/wwwthesundaytimescoukst.jpg/)
    No, too bloody lazy to do that! Its easier to call a poster with many posts under his belt, a troll!
    Your representation of yourself does you no favours!

    Some bloody party your representing!
    Time to change your slogan:
    "Amhrán Nua, a new political party with same rotten attitude to others as previous ones!"
    Now go away and kop yourself on! I have never trolled in my life!
    Some bloody party indeed if this is the quality of its representatives and attitudes!
    Not even bothering to do their research/homework on the Times site before just going and insulting.
    Some things never change!

    P.S.
    Its an exclusive story that the Times has printed and anyone with half a brain will assume then that it wouldn't YET be all over the net!
    It will be in in your garbage average tabloids in dumbed down form eventually!
    Breathe man! A bit of trolling does one good from time to time I've been told, although not by a reputable source. Thanks for the link, and I might point out that I at least had a good look through Google for other sources before saying anything, which may very well be a first in AH. I can't even find a whisper of it on the BBC, hardly a tabloid.


  • #85
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Amhran Nua wrote: »
    Breathe man! A bit of trolling does one good from time to time I've been told...
    I don't troll. End of story.
    How I come across and my reputation is important to me!

    Our actions on the web can give credence and indication to our true character.


  • #86
    Amhran Nua
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Amhran Nua


    Biggins wrote: »
    Our actions on the web can give credence and indication to our true character.
    Sometimes, but then again sometimes not. I'll look forward to more analysis of this insanity tomorrow so when the BBC wakes up. Happy Christmas in any case! :D


  • #87
    Ardennes1944
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    this means a loooooot more babies being born


  • #88
    ColmDawson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭ColmDawson


    Biggins wrote: »
    I've found the Times to be one of very few that actually provides accurate details and names, besides sometimes further evidence to give credence to their topics mentioned.
    I can't see why you look on their article to lowly!

    As to "This is not a government plan" well all I can say is I have read the following:


    So if thats not a plan I don't know what is - and besides this already follows up upon previous actions of the British government just a few years ago...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4195332.stm

    So if their actions next month is not a government plan for the future, I need to look again in a dictionary for the meaning of the word "plan" and who also is leading it - its not the porn industry.

    I don't get the Times during the week, but the Sunday Times has always struck me as being rather tabloidesque.

    As for the meeting between the Minister for Culture and the broadband providers, that may well be scheduled. What isn't certain is that the UK government plans to block pornography. I'm not saying it's impossible that they would formulate such a plan, what I'm saying is that the claim (made by the Sunday Times headline) that "The government is to combat the early sexualisation of children by blocking internet pornography unless parents request it" is not supported by the quotations from the MPs.


  • #89
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Amhran Nua wrote: »
    Sometimes, but then again sometimes not. I'll look forward to more analysis of this insanity tomorrow so when the BBC wakes up. Happy Christmas in any case! :D

    * http://foreign.peacefmonline.com/news/201012/118579.php
    (They seemed to have copied part of the text but their state their source is the HERALDSUN at the bottom)

    * Austrialian news did similar: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/all-internet-porn-will-be-blocked-to-protect-children-under-uk-government-plan/story-e6frfkui-1225973481287

    * Further confirmation of the meeting alone - even if another topic of broadband is mentioned:
    http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4474-ed-vaizey-to-meet-with-network-operators-to-discuss-fibre-tax.html

    * They are also taking about it on other tech' sites: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=2515582
    ...Besides others sites: http://themiscreant.tumblr.com/

    Maybe I should start charging people on how too look things up on the net instead of making blatant insults of trolling!
    (I found all the above in minutes)

    You hang around for the BBC! While you do so try practising apologising for an insult made!
    Others don't waste their time. The BBC is not the "be-end" of all things!

    (TIP: try using Yahoo search engine instead of crap google - and using "+" and even inverted commas, they help!)

    O' and here's one more. The Daily Telegraph:
    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/all-internet-porn-will-be-blocked-to-protect-children-under-uk-government-plan/story-fn7bsi21-1225973501259
    (A lot of coping going around - they must be all trolling for printing the story! Eh?)

    Want more?
    * http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/all-internet-porn-will-be-blocked-to-protect-children-under-uk-government-plan/story-e6frf7k6-1225973481287
    * http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/2/2010/11/26/vaizey_perry_meeting/#c_924871
    * http://www.neowin.net/news/porn-to-be-opt-in-in-the-uk

    That enough or are you still waiting for the BBC?
    O' hang on - here is your Daily Mail version for you: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339926/Internet-pornography-Parents-allowed-block-sexual-imagery.html

    I definitely must start teaching folk how to use the internet search functions!


  • #90
    ColmDawson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭ColmDawson


    Biggins wrote: »
    * http://foreign.peacefmonline.com/news/201012/118579.php
    (They seemed to have copied part of the text but their state their source is the HERALDSUN at the bottom)

    * Austrialian news did similar: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/all-internet-porn-will-be-blocked-to-protect-children-under-uk-government-plan/story-e6frfkui-1225973481287

    * Further confirmation of the meeting alone - even if another topic of broadband is mentioned:
    http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4474-ed-vaizey-to-meet-with-network-operators-to-discuss-fibre-tax.html

    * They are also taking about it on other tech' sites: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=2515582
    ...Besides others sites: http://themiscreant.tumblr.com/

    Maybe I should start charging people on how too look things up on the net instead of making blatant insults of trolling!
    (I found all the above in minutes)

    You hang around for the BBC! While you do so try practising apologising for an insult made!
    Others don't waste their time. The BBC is not the "be-end" of all things!

    (TIP: try using Yahoo search engine instead of crap google - and using "+" and even inverted commas, they help!)

    1. Conservative MP makes statement saying she'd like to see porn blocked
    2. Minister for Culture Ed Vaizey says "The internet is by and large a force for good, it is central to our lives and to our economy and Government has to be wary before it regulates and passes legislation."
    3. Newspapers know that Vaizey is to meet broadband suppliers, albeit with regard to a topic that has nothing to do with blocking porn
    4. Newspaper goes ahead and writes article with sensationalist headline suggesting a definite block
    5. Other lazy journalists copy said article
    6. Mass outrage online
    To me, that sequence of events seems more plausible right now than a definite government plan to block pornography.


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  • #91
    Amhran Nua
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Amhran Nua


    Biggins wrote: »
    * http://foreign.peacefmonline.com/news/201012/118579.php
    (They seemed to have copied part of the text but their state their source is the HERALDSUN at the bottom)

    * Austrialian news did similar: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/all-internet-porn-will-be-blocked-to-protect-children-under-uk-government-plan/story-e6frfkui-1225973481287

    * Further confirmation of the meeting alone - even if another topic of broadband is mentioned:
    http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/4474-ed-vaizey-to-meet-with-network-operators-to-discuss-fibre-tax.html

    * They are also taking about it on other tech' sites: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=2515582
    ...Besides others sites: http://themiscreant.tumblr.com/
    You'll note that news.com.au put that up four hours after I posted, one of the links says nothing about blocking porn, and the last link is a feed from news.com.au. Interestingly the Herald Sun uploaded the story at the exact same time as news.com.au so it seems they are the same group, or got it at the same time anyway. I'm guessing that's 3.08pm local time here, since Australia is betweeen eight and ten hours ahead of us.
    Biggins wrote: »
    Maybe I should start charging people on how too look things up on the net instead of making blatant insults of trolling!
    (I found all the above in minutes)

    You hang around for the BBC! While you do so try practising apologising for an insult made!
    Others don't waste their time. The BBC is not the "be-end" of all things!

    (TIP: try using Yahoo search engine instead of crap google - and using "+" and even inverted commas, they help!)
    The original comment was a bit tongue in cheek to be honest, but you seem to be looking for a fight one way or the other, so eh, good luck with that I guess.


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