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Student lies his way into Harvard

  • 19-12-2010 01:21PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Thought this was a pretty cool story;

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/17/student-conned-harvard-sorry

    He basically created his own academic persona, and gained entrance into Harvard, as well as bagging about 14,000 dollars worth of scholarships. He only got caught out when he applied for bigwig scholarships.

    Fairplay to the guy, he almost did it, just got that little bit too greedy. Makes you think though, maybe that small bit of embellishment to your C.V could be the difference between getting your next job and missing out. Or is that the worst attitude possible, and eventually the lie will catch up with you a la Mr. Wheeler? :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    He still failed overall.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Fair play and all, but sure if we all did that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    galwayrush wrote: »
    He still failed overall.;)

    Bit of a Daedalus and Icarus story really though, flying too close to the sun on wings made of wax. If he was that little bit less greedy, he would have literally lied himself into getting a degree from the most prestigious university in the world. Food for thought regardless of how it ended up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    sorry, guys, i thought i could get away with it. i didn't meant to shame myself and all of boards.ie...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    A condition of his probation is that he cannot profit from his story, haha there goes his idea of writing a book / making a film


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    A condition of his probation is that he cannot profit from his story, haha there goes his idea of writing a book / making a film


    Probably for the best, otherwise the amount of people conning their way into this countries finest jobs would go through the roof. We'd have hundreds of Bill Cullen's in 10 years time. :p:p:p:p:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    eZe^ wrote: »
    Thought this was a pretty cool story;

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/17/student-conned-harvard-sorry

    He basically created his own academic persona, and gained entrance into Harvard, as well as bagging about 14,000 dollars worth of scholarships. He only got caught out when he applied for bigwig scholarships.

    Fairplay to the guy, he almost did it, just got that little bit too greedy. Makes you think though, maybe that small bit of embellishment to your C.V could be the difference between getting your next job and missing out. Or is that the worst attitude possible, and eventually the lie will catch up with you a la Mr. Wheeler? :D

    Theres no fairplay in this story and he deserves no credit.

    I feel really sorry for the genuine candidate that missed out because of the deception of a bogus candidate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Theres no fairplay in this story and he deserves no credit.

    I feel really sorry for the genuine candidate that missed out because of the deception of a bogus candidate.

    Lighten up a wee bit ffs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Gucky wrote: »
    Lighten up a wee bit ffs!

    Well no. Someone, who deserved the spot, lost out because of his con job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Well no. Someone, who deserved the spot, lost out because of his con job.

    The fact that this kid, conned (very successfully) the top brass from one of the most exclusive academic facilities in the world, makes him smarter than them in my eyes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    What were his grades like in Harvard? I'd have let him stay and finish his degree tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,588 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Like this to a point, until he got greedy for the bigger scholarships and i lose any shade of respect I had. Reminds me of catch me if you can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    It reminds me of the passion of the christ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    he'd be a good politician


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭twinQuins


    Good to see the idolisation of the "cute hoor" is still alive and well. People have too romanticised a view of con artists like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    sorry, guys, i thought i could get away with it. i didn't meant to shame myself and all of boards.ie...

    eh yeah rite:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭MightyMighty737


    Bet ya Mark Zuckerberg will give him a job.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    He's probably not the first to do this in all honesty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭whatsamsn


    Lets be honest....
    Good on him :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭kelle


    I'm amazed a place like Harvard didn't do any checks on his qualifications from the start!
    I admire his cheek.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Biggins wrote: »
    He's probably not the first to do this in all honesty.

    Absolutely and he won't be the last, he just wanted to many eggs in his basket.


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Nancy Jolly Logjam


    Gucky wrote: »
    The fact that this kid, conned (very successfully) the top brass from one of the most exclusive academic facilities in the world, makes him smarter than them in my eyes.

    I think you'll find many people would be capable of it but wouldn't be dishonest and pathetic enough to do it. He now owes Harvard over 45 grand and has been exposed as a cheat and fraud to the entire world, and he can't even write a book about it. Yeah, not very smart.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Gucky wrote: »
    Lighten up a wee bit ffs!

    You try and be an Aston Villa fan and see what it does to your soul :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Its like Good Will Hunting, but without Robin Williams


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    This is far more embarressing to Harvard than anythign else really. I'm suprised they didn't try to cover it up somehow, reflects very badly on their admissions policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Fair play to the chancer. However, it was a pretty bad faux pas on the part of Harvard, for not even bothering to investigate their possible students' background. It only took one professor to spot it, if they'd actually looked into it earlier, the whole thing could have been avoided. A simple inquiry to MIT probably would have sufficed.

    That said, fair play to him for pulling the wool over their eyes. He probably didn't even think himself that the lies would work out as well as they did. He nearly got away with it, like.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    He qualifies for membership of Fianna Fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Iguana Bob


    just a question for yas. i have a deg in engineering but not once for any place iv worked in or done an interview for has asked for proof.
    i could easily just lie and for the interview study everything the interviwer could ask me and get the job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭ScissorPaperRock


    Iguana Bob wrote: »
    just a question for yas. i have a deg in engineering but not once for any place iv worked in or done an interview for has asked for proof.
    i could easily just lie and for the interview study everything the interviwer could ask me and get the job

    What's the question?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭x in the city


    am i the only one in thinking this would be grade A film making...

    *calls di caprio...


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