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ENGLAND: Internet porn will be blocked to protect all children - Long Article

  • 19-12-2010 02:04AM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭


    Interesting item from the English Times - might it apply here eventually?
    (We seem to adopt some of their ideas occasionally)

    Internet porn will be blocked to protect all children
    Instead of using parental controls to stop access to pornography — so-called 'opting out' — the tap will be turned off at source
    The Government is to combat the early sexualisation of children by blocking internet pornography unless parents request it.

    The move is intended to ensure that children are not exposed to sex as a routine by-product of the internet. It follows warnings about the hidden damage being done to children by sex sites.

    The biggest broadband providers, including BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk, are being called to a meeting next month by Ed Vaizey, the communications minister, and will be asked to change how pornography gets into homes.

    Instead of using parental controls to stop access to pornography — so-called “opting out” — the tap will be turned off at source. Adults will then have to “opt in”.

    Vaizey said: “This is a very serious matter. I think it is very important that it’s the ISPs that come up with solutions to protect children.
    “I’m hoping they will get their acts together so we don’t have to legislate, but we are keeping an eye on the situation and we will have a new communications bill in the next couple of years.”

    Claire Perry, the Tory MP for Devizes and a keen lobbyist for more restrictions, said: “Unless we show leadership, the internet industry is not going to self-regulate. The minister has said he will get the ISPs together and say, ‘Either you clean out your stables or we are going to do it for you’.

    “There is this very uneasy sense for parents of children that we do not have to tolerate this Wild West approach. We are not coming at this from an anti-porn perspective. We just want to make sure our children aren’t stumbling across things we don’t want them to see.”

    Previously the Internet Services Providers’ Association (ISPA) has told MPs that such a blanket ban would be expensive and technically difficult to operate.

    But Miranda Suit, co-founder of the charity Safermedia, which held a conference on internet porn at the Commons last month, said: “Technically we know it can be done because the ISPs are already removing child porn after the government put pressure on them.

    “In the past, internet porn was regarded as a moral issue or a matter of taste. Now it has become a mental health issue because we now know the damage it is causing. We are seeing perverse sexual behaviour among children. Legislation is both justifiable and feasible.”

    She quoted the example of two underage brothers sentenced to at least five years’ detention this year for a sadistic sex attack on two other boys in South Yorkshire. The brothers were said to have had a “toxic” home life where they were exposed to pornography.

    This weekend some ISPs appeared ready to introduce an “opt in” clause voluntarily. Andrew Heaney, executive director of strategy and regulation for TalkTalk, said: “Our objective was not to do what the politicians want us to do but to do what was right by our customers.
    “If other companies aren’t going to do it of their own volition, then maybe they should be leant on. Legislation is a sledgehammer but it could work.”

    A spokeswoman for Virgin Media said: “We already have an opt-in approach on mobiles. We’ve taken this approach as mobiles are taken out of the home — and kept in a pocket — whereas parents can control what happens within the home and online “We’re able to block sites, so it would be possible to do the same on the internet. It is just about finding the right approach.”

    A spokesman for BT, which has a “clean feed” system to block access to illegal sites, said: “We do what we can to protect children.”
    The ISPA did not return calls.
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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Hear that sound? that was the sound of a million 14 year old boys fainting at once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    krudler wrote: »
    Hear that sound? that was the sound of a million 14 year old boys fainting at once.

    Boys?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Biggins wrote: »
    Interesting item from the English Times - might it apply here eventually?
    (We seem to adopt some of their ideas occasionally)

    Internet porn will be blocked to protect all children
    Instead of using parental controls to stop access to pornography — so-called 'opting out' — the tap will be turned off at source


    http://img841.imageshack.us/i/wwwthesundaytimescouksts.jpg/

    Won't everyone just be behind 7 proxies?

    =========================================================

    But in all seriousness, the powers that be are getting very cheeky as of late. I think they have lost all track of the 'we can push them this far:here they start stringing us up' ratio. Silly people. Must history repeat its self every centuary.

    Click this link to donate a history book to your local minster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,527 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    if the web became popular in 1975 or 85 rather than 1995 all porn would be blocked here and still blocked :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    So if I want to watch porn on you porn I need to get permission?
    I'm asking for a friend is all...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Now I hate kids even more.

    We're going to have to pay for it eventually too.

    All because little johnny is acting the bollix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Well now people, be fair....Sex is unnatural and immoral after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Not saying I agree with this, but to be fair, porn - well hardcore anyway - isn't merely "sex".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    strobe wrote: »
    Well now people, be fair....Sex is unnatural and immoral after all.

    Hence the need to whack off to squirt porn on redtube


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    So will I have to fill in a form to watch redtube now? If parents took more responsibility for what their children do on the net then there would be no need for this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Dudess wrote: »
    Not saying I agree with this, but to be fair, porn - well hardcore anyway - isn't merely "sex".

    if you wanna watch softcore, just watch True Blood :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Or Spartacus: Blood & Sand. Yowzers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    This will cause a lot of jobs to be lost!

    Less people will want internet now, so the ISPs and computer manufacturers will have a lot less demand.
    I'll probably get rid of my laptop and go out into the real world to look for naked women!

    But now it'll be much harder to find images of naked amputee transexuals fellating phallic fruit beside an inter-racial lesbian couple eating pancakes off each others bums! And that's the only thing I can get off to nowadays! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    they'll just start recording their parents at it, fap to it, become fúcked up, get hooked on cocaine, wear tropical shirts and think they're porn barons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    I don't want to see people peeing on each other, doesn't mean I want to go and ruin it for those who do.

    I guess kids will just go back to looking at porno mags in the park like we did when I was young.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Dudess wrote: »
    Not saying I agree with this, but to be fair, porn - well hardcore anyway - isn't merely "sex".

    I agree. It's filthy nasty weird sex like stuff involving consenting adults. i.e none of anyones business, least of all the government's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Dont make us revert to using our imagination!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Looks like we're going to have to get creative when it comes to fanny hunting in future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭Slugs


    This a joke? o.O


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Slugs wrote: »
    This a joke? o.O
    No. Genuine.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Dont make us revert to using our imagination!!!

    We should stick with lube and cucumbers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Iguana Bob


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Dont make us revert to using our imagination!!!
    THAT DOESNT WORK ANYMORE!!!!!! iv become dependant!!
    There isnt enough hours in the day if i was trying to use my imagination


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭Slugs


    It follows the success of an operation by most British ISP's to prevent people inadvertently viewing child porn websites

    Yes, because how often have we browse the web looking for clothes only to find ourselves looking at a 6 year old russian quadriplegic in the missionary...

    How reliable is this newspaper as a source... o.O Can't find it on SkyNews...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Ray Burkes Pension


    Complete waste of time.
    Block a site and it will move.

    ISPs will be playing whack-a-mole with newly sprung up websites instead of the proper work of providing a service.

    Also there's much to the internet than webpages. How do they even start trying to filter and ban all that?

    If china cant do it, I cant wait to see Ireland's laughable attempts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    I think it is right. I remember being 8-9 years of age and I was in a field with my friends and we came across a porn magazine next to a couple of cans. I was shocked at what I saw as a child, I didn't know what sperm was or what a womens privates looked like.

    Now when I reached 13, this all changed, but at that age porn definitely shouldn't have been near me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭Slugs


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I think it is right. I remember being 8-9 years of age and I was in a field with my friends and we came across a porn magazine next to a couple of cans. I was shocked at what I saw as a child, I didn't know what sperm was or what a womens privates looked like.

    Now when I reached 13, this all changed, but at that age porn definitely shouldn't have been near me.
    You're confusing an accidental occurence, e.g. finding a porn magazine in a field, to an intended occurence, e.g. searching for porn on the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    strobe wrote: »
    I agree. It's filthy nasty weird sex like stuff involving consenting adults.
    Like pissing on each other, which isn't sex (might be a sexual fetish but not sex) - a 12-year-old seeing penetrative sex, fair enough, but don't know whether hardcore, messed-up stuff is ideal viewing just yet for some 12-year-olds.
    But still, I completely disagree with this - if there's a child or children in the house and they have access to the internet, the parent(s) or guardian(s) already have the ability to regulate what can be viewed. Instead though, the responsibility becomes everyone's - pure nanny state sh1te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Ray Burkes Pension


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I think it is right. I remember being 8-9 years of age and I was in a field with my friends and we came across a porn magazine next to a couple of cans. I was shocked at what I saw as a child, I didn't know what sperm was or what a womens privates looked like.

    Now when I reached 13, this all changed, but at that age porn definitely shouldn't have been near me.

    Kids should be educated properly about sex at a young age. Parents should be open and honest about sex. They shouldn't be finding this stuff out in fields with mates or on the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Dudess wrote: »
    Like pissing on each other, which isn't sex (might be a sexual fetish but not sex) - a 12-year-old seeing penetrative sex, fair enough, but don't know whether hardcore, messed-up stuff is ideal viewing just yet for some 12-year-olds.
    But still, I completely disagree with this - if there's a child or children in the house and they have access to the internet, the parent(s) or guardian(s) already have the ability to regulate what can be viewed. Instead though, the responsibility becomes everyone's - pure nanny state sh1te.

    I don't disagree on any particular point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Biggins is old, what did you do before internet porn?


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