Would you take a Hit from a Non Airsoft Projectile?

I for one would not play any site that would allow a bow and arrow to be used for the simple fact that i wouldnt be sure of who has done rhe modifcations needed to make it safe or has it been checked on the day. Think the idea is pushing it a bit too Rambo TBH.
As for throwing knife you have to be pretty skilled to hit and kill someone with a real knife so what your suggesting would be even harder. Also I would not take the hit because how would i know it was the blade end or the handle.
To sum up I believe it would take away from the game rather than add to it.
Just my opinion.

I keep thinking back to the zombie night game played in HRTA over the summer. The "survivors" had metre long lengths of spongy packing foam with which they could "kill" zombie players.

In theory a safe way to do things, in practice it was a failure. Zombies players felt they were getting lamped. I was on the receiving end myself and I thought they were being far too enthusiastic. The survivors were warned to tone it down by the marshalls. Zombie players continued to get foam walloped to the degree that they started to walk off the game.

And that I think is the problem with this stuff. It can be all fine and safe in theory, but once you let into the hands of players all bets are off. There are too many idiots out there I just wouldn't trust with this stuff. And to be frank, its the ones who want to see and do what they played in COD/MOH I would worry about the most. I don't have a problem with them firing an AEG at me coz with the 1J rule I know what I am in for. But if I saw a group of guys in shaggy fleeces with skull face facemasks going around throwing rubber knives I would leave the game and probably the site.

I don't think that a lot of airsofters are responsible enough to be trusted with this stuff.

I wonder what a site's insurer would think of the site's punters trying to stab or club each other with implements?

As for night games I seem to remember a night game when some tool decided to do a knife kill with a metal M4 mag on someone's skull. I do believe it ended with a 'fist kill' from the victim.

what's next an underslung Super Soaker's to replicate the Cod and BFbc2 flame throwers ,

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If you're a "hardened user" like the "many more" you speak of, what are you doing just turning up to a site without ringing ahead first? Considering it's an addition to the normal play, it should be stated as part of the game setup announcement (e.g. Game, *location* *gametype* *gamerules* *date* *time*). Off home with ye or play by the rules. Pity about you for not finding out first.

While I agree with an element of this, I couldn't disagree with the sentiment more.
Yes, the site rules should be available on the respective sites thread in the Airsoft Sites section, but this "like it or lump it" attitude is saddening - especially considering the majority of people taking part in this discussion are diametrically opposed to the concept of throwing knives, bow-and-arrows, Nerf guns etc being used in a game.
I'm what you might refer to as a "hardened user" (though who brought that term to bear before you to warrant quotation marks, I'm remiss to find). I have called ahead to a site I was going to once in all my years playing, back on the day of the first skirmish in the country because I couldn't find the turn for the site. To infer that every player is expected to call ahead to a site before so much as leaving the house to check if the rules are to their taste is, frankly, ridiculous.
If a rule requires such a decision to be made, then it's clearly not popular with the patrons of a site and renders an exclusion upon the majority for virtually no gain to the minority. That's something that is not only unfair to the players, but unacceptable to the site owners who can't afford to exclude anyone from being a potential paying customer.


Brian, with regard to what you mentioned on the previous page about allowing such things in night or private games, I'd be even more opposed to throwing anything in a night game. I don't trust the concept to be safe in a day game, so a night one would be worse again.
However, in a private game, I can't fathom a reasonable argument against such. It still has the same element of chance attached, but a private game is just that; a game set up, paid for and played by a closed group. If they want to use waterballoons and dress as Barney the Dinosaur, it's their choice. It doesn't impinge on regular games attended by the public player.

Well, to reverse your argument upon yourself, since you insist upon dealing with this in overreaction, why should I, or anyone playing the game, be forced to call ahead to a site whose rules have, thus far, been standard, well known and well stood to find out if the days rules will be the standard type in which everyone can play, or the "non-standard" one in which only people willing to allow objects to be randomly hurled at them, is in use that day.

What you're asking is that you inconvenience the masses to allow a small group to engage in airsoft-plus-extras. My suggestion is that you, good sir, organise and play in this private game you suggest. It's the one solid way to guarantee you get a game in which everyone is happy to be a target for more than airsoft devices.

As to the addressing of the rest of your comments, I shall make this brief on each point;
It's saddening because you seem capable of justifying your "like it or get out" concept - if not to me - which excludes rather than seeks compromise.
"The Seven P's" are important, I'll agree, but should not be a requirement of casual gaming. Of milsim, scenario or event gaming, sure. Of a standard Saturday afternoon game, no. Such days are for everyone.
Sir, if you turned up wearing that, a neon suit strung with Christmas lights or nothing at all, that is your choice. The agreement to have something thrown at me is mine, regardless of the level or type of clothing you don.
My "veteran" status was never an issue, the context from which you derive this was merely an indication of when the last time I actually needed to call ahead to a site for any reason was, testament to the organisation and professionalism of the site operators, and the universality of the rulesets they employ. It had no bearing on impingement of innovation.
Finally, the importance of "those having this discussion" is simply that they are taking part. They do not speak for everyone, only themselves. However, they are the ones taking part and, therefore, the only ones offering a point or counterpoint to debate. It's quite impossible to discuss this matter with someone who is disconnected from it.


In summary, you're asking, nay, telling players who wish to play a standard game of airsoft they can leave a site simply because an untrusted, untested and unpopular concept is deemed playable by you and... who else?
I'm all for innovation, and I'd be lying if I said the concept didn't intrigue me (I've already agreed that a foam-only knife has somewhat of a place in the game for those wishing to add an element to their sneaky attacks), but an innovative idea does not automatically receive Carte Blanche for the upheaval of the standard ruleset.
Try it in private first, then work from there. It's not an unreasonable request.

In all seriousness ,

Aldi are selling rubber chickens for 1.99.

That would be a cool melee "touch" only weapon for knife kills.



Or it.could be launched like a javelin

I'm sure I saw a Magpul chicken mount so it can be used as a bayonet.